Oregon Men, watch out for SB719!!!!!!!

ALL FAL · May 30, 2017, 19:10

ERMO= Extreme Risk Protection Order== an CaliPHuckia idea.

Call your congressman NOW!! https://www.firearmspolicy.org/oregon_sb_719

and Call Brian Boquist the rethuglican that is a TRAITOR to Oregon Men and Women by Introducing this Un-Constitutional and against the BOR type "FLAW" as it is Not a law but Only a FLAW=an Delusion of Liberal Ineptness, Never a law of any kind or legal= Do NOT Obey if it does pass.

medicmike · May 30, 2017, 19:52

This is a bad one....and very likely to pass....no doubt our POS gov will sign it...

ALL FAL · May 31, 2017, 01:36

IS, the first person they use it on Gives IN then it is ON. Just My writing this WOULD be enough to take my guns, anything you say that does Not go along with the STATE script, You Lose YOUR GUNS, No Hearing, NO Recourse, GUNS GONE. Even If you have never had a gun violation of ANY KIND.

For example, a father in law says to someone : my son in law is really upset about the CSD Raising his child support, says he wants to get even with them== GUNS GONE. No mental health evaluation, Nothing but GUNS GONE, Knives TOO. Any Weapon, yeah, the kids baseball bat Too.

Basicly it IS a Phony Law so "THEY" can take guns FOR ANY REASON.

F@CK THEM ALL.

**brunop** · May 31, 2017, 12:01

Thanks for the heads up on this one, Dave.

ALL FAL · May 31, 2017, 14:58

I Do Hope that all in the pacific northwest will have a look as this SB719 is the MOST Infringing Phony Law to be put against Oregon Men and Women EVER.

Washington and Idaho should also Beware of this tactic used by anti-gun anti-American Leftist Politicians, YOUR STATES COULD BE NEXT.

Note: From OFF Oregon Firearms Federation. Look close at this site as it IS a Liberal Lobby site that I do NOT Trust, here is a paragraph from their site.

On the communist holiday of “May Day” the Oregon Senate passed, on an almost party line vote, the Boquist/Burdick gun grab, SB 719A. Senator Betsy Johnson was the only Democrat voting “no.” Boquist was the only Republican voting “yes.” The Democrats immediately issued a press release calling the vote “non-partisan.”

Senator Boquist’s floor speech revealed a very different interpretation of what “due process” is than what we believe.

Under this bill you get an opportunity to prove your innocence only after you have been punished with the confiscation of your property and the elimination of your rights.

Boquist claimed that “there is a process” for confiscating legally owned Class III items under this bill but neglected to say what it was. When we contacted ATF several weeks ago they said they knew of no such process and one Chief of Police told us he had no idea how this could be done legally.

Always the SAME Gun GRABBERS at work AND they just want gun owners to be POWERLESS against the State, The Above ^^^ is how they INCREMENTALLY Do IT.

ALL FAL · May 31, 2017, 15:04

Said the Bill was created and I quote: "To stop Veterans From Suicide ".

That is Like taking your guns because you are a drunk driver BUT Leaving Your Car with you.

Veterans OR ANYONE can be very creative in OFFING themselves, they do Not need a gun. Simple as walking out into traffic, HA--WHAMMO!!

medicmike · May 31, 2017, 15:59

http://www.oregonfirearms.org/the-most-dangerous-time

Here is a link to the OFF article with links to easily send your non-support of this issue.

ETA: Copy and paste of canned response from Rep Hayden

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on SB 719. As this bill works its way through the committee process and potentially towards a vote on the House floor, your opinions will be part of Rep. Hayden's thought process.

We all want to support our fellow Oregonians in crisis - especially our veterans - in any way possible. We also all want to preserve and defend the natural and constitutional rights of all Oregonians. The very last thing Rep. Hayden would want to do is pass legislation that may dissuade an Oregonian in crisis from seeking help out of fear of losing his or her firearms. Representative Hayden is opposed to the current version of SB 791 because does not believe the bill as drafted successfully balances the above policy goals of helping our fellow Oregonians in crisis without infringing on their rights or dissuading them from seeking help.

Austin Parrett
Legislative Assistant
Representative Cedric Hayden

gew98 · May 31, 2017, 20:21

Sounds about what the zeig heil demoratzis long ago afflicted upon newjerkistan peoples. Big Bruder knows best yah !. What's innocent until proven guilty constitutionally or legally mean anymore...not a fugstick thing.

ALL FAL · June 02, 2017, 20:52

This Bill 719 is a BLATANT!!! Theft of Rights and Against the U.S. Constitution, and a Big Jump from Incremental theft, IF it Passes I Pray that No One succumbs to it's Illegality.

SB719 Would Enable the State to take a Persons Guns For ANY REASON They see fit, Pre crime Or Thought Police what a Fricken NIGHTMARE.

gew98 · June 03, 2017, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALL FAL

This Bill 719 is a BLATAN Theft of Rights and Against the U.S. Constitution, and a Big Jump from Incremental theft, IF it Passes I Pray that No One succumbs to it's Illegality.

SB719 Would Enable the State to take a Persons Guns For ANY REASON They see fit, Pre crime Or Thought Police what a Fricken NIGHTMARE.

Before I left newjerkistan in the mid 90's there was a case of an elderly collector whom had his collection confiscated as the state deemed him not able to adequately handle his own property - guns you see. As I recall the man's collection was black powder arms and primarily vintage flintlocks. The man challeneged the law , but sadly due to age and stress passed away before trial and hence the uber draconian law(s) held fast to insure the safety of the citizens of the peoples demokratic repooblik of newjerkistan from evil flintlocks and any definition of said laws by anyone other than the glorious state of freedom and protection for the cogs by the peace loving state and it's dear leaders..

medicmike · June 04, 2017, 00:01

My ex inherited a decent gun collection from an old guy that she used to shoot IDPA with. He had terminal cancer, family gone and feeling depressed (wouldn't we all). His caregiver told him that he was depressed and she was going to have the social worker remove his guns from the house. It was the last straw for him, after she left he suck started his Glock 19. Take a gun guy that is already depressed and threaten to take his only joy away.....well...I see this law doing more harm than good......

ALL FAL · June 04, 2017, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by medicmike

My ex inherited a decent gun collection from an old guy that she used to shoot IDPA with. He had terminal cancer, family gone and feeling depressed (wouldn't we all). His caregiver told him that he was depressed and she was going to have the social worker remove his guns from the house. It was the last straw for him, after she left he suck started his Glock 19. Take a gun guy that is already depressed and threaten to take his only joy away.....well...I see this law doing more harm than good......

Mike?? what thuh ?? I do NOT see this as any kind of law except Unconstitutional and should NEVER BE ACCEPTED as in Pass that Law and Get Hanged as an DOMESTIC TERRORIST/TYRANT (same F@cking thing)

We Already Have "THE LAW in the OATH WE took as servicemen" About time to USE IT, ROD RAMMIT!!

medicmike · June 04, 2017, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALL FAL

Mike?? what thuh ?? I do NOT see this as any kind of law except Unconstitutional and should NEVER BE ACCEPTED as in Pass that Law and Get Hanged as an DOMESTIC TERRORIST/TYRANT (same F@cking thing)

We Already Have "THE LAW in the OATH WE took as servicemen" About time to USE IT, ROD RAMMIT!!

100% in agreement with you there bro

ALL FAL · June 06, 2017, 00:30

What A Dumb F@cker, gonna make all of the gun owners of Veteran decent give up your guns because ya "MIGHT" go Suicide on your family?

These Mf'ers, Fascist SOB's should be hanged as Domestic Terrorists. IS THIS THE SPARK?? It IS for me.

**Bug Tussell** · June 08, 2017, 07:35

Fascism disguised as sympathy.

Some democratic lawmakers have no problem with lies and deceit. The ends justifies the means I suppose.

Santa Fe, the self proclaimed "sanctuary city", is in desperate needs of increased funding for their school systems (annual cost per student statewide is $9,000). Their answer was a $.02 cent "soda tax". Their ads ran "It will only cost an additional two cents per drink." Hell, two cents ain't nothing to worry about and besides, it's for the children. Then the opposition ads pointed out that the increased two cent tax was per ounce and not per drink so a 16 ounce drink would increase 32 cents and not just the two cents that the dems had implied. This is just another example of dems with their usual lies and deceit.

Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

**Riversidesports** · June 12, 2017, 20:51

Well Guys most "retirement" communities are safe space, gun free zones by charter.
Further the staff reserves the right to search your residence...

Buddies grand dad went through this
Staff found and seized his 1911 & Ranger dagger. Kids had to sue to get everything returned to family. Administration had already SOLD both cheap and credited his "inmate" account.

**4x401** · June 12, 2017, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riversidesports

Well Guys most "retirement" communities are safe space, gun free zones by charter.
Further the staff reserves the right to search your residence...

Buddies grand dad went through this
Staff found and seized his 1911 & Ranger dagger. Kids had to sue to get everything returned to family. Administration had already SOLD both cheap and credited his "inmate" account.

And under what circumstances did said "STAFF" find his weapons??

Sounds like he was a retard for moving into such a community without reading the fine print...It makes me sad, so many retards doing shit and finding they fudged up because their to lazy to read the fine print...

ALL FAL · June 13, 2017, 21:31

The Only ones I feel sorry for are the azzhole Gun Grabbers in the Oregon legislature, Those F@ckers want a civil war and this bill will get that If they pass the piece of shit.

Too damn bad we cannot Hang the F@ckers for INFRINGEMENT on Gun rights.

Come on TRUMP helps us out here.

**MK ULTRA** · June 18, 2017, 11:10

One problem is that too many citizens are allowing their states to overturn federal drug law by allowing state legal marijuana. This is the same thing. Guns are legal federally aka 2A. But we have allowed the states to enforce illegal state laws against guns. Both the drug and gun laws go against Federal Law. As we allow it.

ALL FAL · June 18, 2017, 18:38

https://www.northwestfirearms.com/at...-1-jpg.359577/ The east has a Fist up Boquist's Butt, they Paid him for the use of his Anus.

True MK, SOME of us allow it.

EPC WN · June 18, 2017, 19:40

You fellas about ready for East Cascadia or what?

May 30, 2017, 19:10	#1
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	Oregon Men, watch out for SB719!!!!!!! ERMO= Extreme Risk Protection Order== an CaliPHuckia idea. Call your congressman NOW!! https://www.firearmspolicy.org/oregon_sb_719 and Call Brian Boquist the rethuglican that is a TRAITOR to Oregon Men and Women by Introducing this Un-Constitutional and against the BOR type "FLAW" as it is Not a law but Only a FLAW=an Delusion of Liberal Ineptness, Never a law of any kind or legal= Do NOT Obey if it does pass. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

May 30, 2017, 19:52	#2
medicmike Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 3183 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florence, OR Posts: 4,424	This is a bad one....and very likely to pass....no doubt our POS gov will sign it... __________________ "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker at Lexington Green

May 31, 2017, 01:36	#3
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	The problem if they pass this Un-Constitutional FAKE LAW.. IS, the first person they use it on Gives IN then it is ON. Just My writing this WOULD be enough to take my guns, anything you say that does Not go along with the STATE script, You Lose YOUR GUNS, No Hearing, NO Recourse, GUNS GONE. Even If you have never had a gun violation of ANY KIND. For example, a father in law says to someone : my son in law is really upset about the CSD Raising his child support, says he wants to get even with them== GUNS GONE. No mental health evaluation, Nothing but GUNS GONE, Knives TOO. Any Weapon, yeah, the kids baseball bat Too. Basicly it IS a Phony Law so "THEY" can take guns FOR ANY REASON. F@CK THEM ALL. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

May 31, 2017, 12:01	#4
brunop Refresh Key Masher Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 17136 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,943	Thanks for the heads up on this one, Dave. __________________ Warning to all FalFiles members who may ever want to do business with me on the FF Marketplace: I support any person who steals 3% from PP by conducting business transactions as Family & Friends transactions. This may impugn my character, and, according to Mark Graham of Arizona Response Systems, means that I'll lie, cheat, and steal from people here if there is anything about you that I don't like - or possibly even disagree with. You may not want to do business with me. In case you forget this, this warning will appear in any future advert in the Marketplace. Consider yourself duly warned. http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=89

May 31, 2017, 14:58	#5
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	You are very Welcome Brunop. I Do Hope that all in the pacific northwest will have a look as this SB719 is the MOST Infringing Phony Law to be put against Oregon Men and Women EVER. Washington and Idaho should also Beware of this tactic used by anti-gun anti-American Leftist Politicians, YOUR STATES COULD BE NEXT. Note: From OFF Oregon Firearms Federation. Look close at this site as it IS a Liberal Lobby site that I do NOT Trust, here is a paragraph from their site. On the communist holiday of “May Day” the Oregon Senate passed, on an almost party line vote, the Boquist/Burdick gun grab, SB 719A. Senator Betsy Johnson was the only Democrat voting “no.” Boquist was the only Republican voting “yes.” The Democrats immediately issued a press release calling the vote “non-partisan.” Senator Boquist’s floor speech revealed a very different interpretation of what “due process” is than what we believe. Under this bill you get an opportunity to prove your innocence only after you have been punished with the confiscation of your property and the elimination of your rights. Boquist claimed that “there is a process” for confiscating legally owned Class III items under this bill but neglected to say what it was. When we contacted ATF several weeks ago they said they knew of no such process and one Chief of Police told us he had no idea how this could be done legally. Always the SAME Gun GRABBERS at work AND they just want gun owners to be POWERLESS against the State, The Above ^^^ is how they INCREMENTALLY Do IT. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

May 31, 2017, 15:04	#6
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	Ginny BURDICK Said the Bill was created and I quote: "To stop Veterans From Suicide ". That is Like taking your guns because you are a drunk driver BUT Leaving Your Car with you. Veterans OR ANYONE can be very creative in OFFING themselves, they do Not need a gun. Simple as walking out into traffic, HA--WHAMMO!! __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

May 31, 2017, 15:59	#7
medicmike Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 3183 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florence, OR Posts: 4,424	http://www.oregonfirearms.org/the-most-dangerous-time Here is a link to the OFF article with links to easily send your non-support of this issue. ETA: Copy and paste of canned response from Rep Hayden Thank you for sharing your thoughts on SB 719. As this bill works its way through the committee process and potentially towards a vote on the House floor, your opinions will be part of Rep. Hayden's thought process. We all want to support our fellow Oregonians in crisis - especially our veterans - in any way possible. We also all want to preserve and defend the natural and constitutional rights of all Oregonians. The very last thing Rep. Hayden would want to do is pass legislation that may dissuade an Oregonian in crisis from seeking help out of fear of losing his or her firearms. Representative Hayden is opposed to the current version of SB 791 because does not believe the bill as drafted successfully balances the above policy goals of helping our fellow Oregonians in crisis without infringing on their rights or dissuading them from seeking help. Austin Parrett Legislative Assistant Representative Cedric Hayden __________________ "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker at Lexington Green Last edited by medicmike; May 31, 2017 at 16:19.

May 31, 2017, 20:21	#8
gew98 Registered FALaholic #: 32830 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: away from taxation without representation , Kentucky !. Posts: 1,702	Sounds about what the zeig heil demoratzis long ago afflicted upon newjerkistan peoples. Big Bruder knows best yah !. What's innocent until proven guilty constitutionally or legally mean anymore...not a fugstick thing. __________________ The vice of capitolism is it's unequal sharing of blessings. The Virtue of Socialism is it's equal sharing of MISERY. Winston Churchill 1) Culture builds upon the past 2) The past always tries to control the future. 3) Our future is becoming less free 4) To build free societies you must limit control of the past. All hail lord IMPOTUS and Darth Biden All hail.

June 02, 2017, 20:52	#9
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	True GEW98.You getting any of this kind of action there ?? This Bill 719 is a BLATANT!!! Theft of Rights and Against the U.S. Constitution, and a Big Jump from Incremental theft, IF it Passes I Pray that No One succumbs to it's Illegality. SB719 Would Enable the State to take a Persons Guns For ANY REASON They see fit, Pre crime Or Thought Police what a Fricken NIGHTMARE. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks. Last edited by ALL FAL; June 04, 2017 at 19:11.

June 04, 2017, 00:01	#11
medicmike Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 3183 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florence, OR Posts: 4,424	My ex inherited a decent gun collection from an old guy that she used to shoot IDPA with. He had terminal cancer, family gone and feeling depressed (wouldn't we all). His caregiver told him that he was depressed and she was going to have the social worker remove his guns from the house. It was the last straw for him, after she left he suck started his Glock 19. Take a gun guy that is already depressed and threaten to take his only joy away.....well...I see this law doing more harm than good...... __________________ "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker at Lexington Green

June 06, 2017, 00:30	#14
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	Senator Boquist's son committed Suicide, That is why He sponsored the bill. What A Dumb F@cker, gonna make all of the gun owners of Veteran decent give up your guns because ya "MIGHT" go Suicide on your family? These Mf'ers, Fascist SOB's should be hanged as Domestic Terrorists. IS THIS THE SPARK?? It IS for me. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

June 08, 2017, 07:35	#15
Bug Tussell ..... Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2872 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bug Tussell Farm in New Mexico Posts: 5,101	Fascism disguised as sympathy. Some democratic lawmakers have no problem with lies and deceit. The ends justifies the means I suppose. Santa Fe, the self proclaimed "sanctuary city", is in desperate needs of increased funding for their school systems (annual cost per student statewide is $9,000). Their answer was a $.02 cent "soda tax". Their ads ran "It will only cost an additional two cents per drink." Hell, two cents ain't nothing to worry about and besides, it's for the children. Then the opposition ads pointed out that the increased two cent tax was per ounce and not per drink so a 16 ounce drink would increase 32 cents and not just the two cents that the dems had implied. This is just another example of dems with their usual lies and deceit. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. __________________ Make your time

June 12, 2017, 20:51	#16
Riversidesports Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 36091 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,310	Well Guys most "retirement" communities are safe space, gun free zones by charter. Further the staff reserves the right to search your residence... Buddies grand dad went through this Staff found and seized his 1911 & Ranger dagger. Kids had to sue to get everything returned to family. Administration had already SOLD both cheap and credited his "inmate" account.

June 13, 2017, 21:31	#18
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	SB719 is NOT about retirement living. The Only ones I feel sorry for are the azzhole Gun Grabbers in the Oregon legislature, Those F@ckers want a civil war and this bill will get that If they pass the piece of shit. Too damn bad we cannot Hang the F@ckers for INFRINGEMENT on Gun rights. Come on TRUMP helps us out here. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

June 18, 2017, 11:10	#19
MK ULTRA Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2382 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,193	One problem is that too many citizens are allowing their states to overturn federal drug law by allowing state legal marijuana. This is the same thing. Guns are legal federally aka 2A. But we have allowed the states to enforce illegal state laws against guns. Both the drug and gun laws go against Federal Law. As we allow it. __________________ O $HIT MK ULTRA.....OUT..... They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, Statesman and Inventor: 1759 Improvise, Adapt, Overcome..... Last edited by MK ULTRA; June 18, 2017 at 11:28.

June 18, 2017, 18:38	#20
ALL FAL Registered FALaholic #: 24447 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,078	https://www.northwestfirearms.com/at...-1-jpg.359577/ The east has a Fist up Boquist's Butt, they Paid him for the use of his Anus. True MK, SOME of us allow it. __________________ COBC #1- That's all Folks.

June 18, 2017, 19:40	#21
EPC WN Ka-BOOM! Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 65612 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: District 12 Posts: 6,930	You fellas about ready for East Cascadia or what? __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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