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Old June 15, 2017, 22:21   #1
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Smile Question about building on this CIA Imbel receiver

Hello Everyone,
This may be a silly question but I wanted to make sure there is nothing illegal about doing this.

I had a Century FAL built on an Imbel receiver using inch parts. Is it ok if I use this receiver to build up a rifle from an Imbel kit using the correct number of US made parts for 922.

The reason I ask, is the receiver is marked L1A1 Sporter by CIA.

Note: I am aware of the milled away area that the metric charging handle would have locked into; I'm working on a fix for that. Also, the feed ramps were never tampered with.

Thanks for any insight and comments.
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Old June 16, 2017, 08:41   #2
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Hello Everyone,
This may be a silly question but I wanted to make sure there is nothing illegal about doing this.

I had a Century FAL built on an Imbel receiver using inch parts. Is it ok if I use this receiver to build up a rifle from an Imbel kit using the correct number of US made parts for 922.

The reason I ask, is the receiver is marked L1A1 Sporter by CIA.

Note: I am aware of the milled away area that the metric charging handle would have locked into; I'm working on a fix for that. Also, the feed ramps were never tampered with.

Thanks for any insight and comments.
Cheers!
Ummm, might just use an inch charging handle. I'm just saying. Not sure what fix you'll need to use?

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Old June 17, 2017, 11:39   #3
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Ummm, might just use an inch charging handle.

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Old June 17, 2017, 14:01   #4
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Hello Everyone,
This may be a silly question but I wanted to make sure there is nothing illegal about doing this.

I had a Century FAL built on an Imbel receiver using inch parts. Is it ok if I use this receiver to build up a rifle from an Imbel kit using the correct number of US made parts for 922.

The reason I ask, is the receiver is marked L1A1 Sporter by CIA.

Note: I am aware of the milled away area that the metric charging handle would have locked into; I'm working on a fix for that. Also, the feed ramps were never tampered with.

Thanks for any insight and comments.
Cheers!
I think you are good to go....shouldn't be any legal issues...at least on the Federal level YMMV with state and local laws
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The rifle was previously manufactured when you purchased it.

Anything you do now is customization, not manufacture.




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Old June 17, 2017, 14:32   #6
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The rifle was previously manufactured when you purchased it.

Anything you do now is customization, not manufacture.
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I fully agree there is no practical problem. However, I believe at one point the BATFE was queried about this and as usual they waffled and implied that "significant" parts replacement "could" be construed as manufacturing and thus expose the "replacer" to 922r requirements. If this is true, then a complete teardown/rebuild would almost certainly be classified as manufacturing. I would like to think there has been further clarification on this point but I am not aware of any, nor would I like to see the ATF even tinkering with the issue. Sleeping dogs, and all that. If anyone knows of an update on the above, I would very much like to know more.

Now we all know that the above is absolutely meaningless in every practical sense and the OP should feel perfectly safe in proceeding as he wishes. Just mentioning it for the record, is all.

And, I concur with using the inchcocking handle. Simple solution and perfectly workable.
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Build it. You're in Kentucky. If they let a low down scallawag like Invictus in, they pert neer ain't trifling with you
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Old June 17, 2017, 16:06   #8
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Invictus has been outed !!

I always thought of him more as a rapscallion, though
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Old June 17, 2017, 21:12   #10
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I dunno - nefarious is pretty dam' big shoes to fill !!
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Old June 18, 2017, 09:12   #11
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Ok guys, thanks for the input. I will be adding all the 922 parts to make it legal. I bought the rifle several years ago as a L1a1 sporter made by century with the the thumbhole stock with nice British parts. Seemed logical to me to use the Imbel receiver with a nice Imbel kit I had laying around from years ago and to use the British parts for a different build.
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Old June 18, 2017, 10:43   #12
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Sorry but I missed your post TDB59; so based on that, it would be ok to add all imbel parts from my kit including trigger group and stock, etc and not have to worry about 922 compliance going forward with the build? That would probably save me over $100 not having to buy the 922 parts!
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Sorry but I missed your post TDB59; so based on that, it would be ok to add all imbel parts from my kit including trigger group and stock, etc and not have to worry about 922 compliance going forward with the build? That would probably save me over $100 not having to buy the 922 parts!
That is up to you.

I will not make a recommendation either way.


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Old June 18, 2017, 16:38   #14
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I don't recommend a 922 compliant do/do not build either, take the advise of J Armstrong and make your choice. It will not be easy to make that rifle 922 compliant if you do decide to at any rate.

I would highly suggest that you equip your rifle with a "Semi-Auto" only Selector.
Range Officers, Possum Sheriffs, and even Gun Shops that are not familiar with the FAL design seem to come a bit unhinged when a Selector swings to the "Happy" position.

I actually like a Semi only Selector as it gives a positive stop in the firing position.
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