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Old August 13, 2019, 22:04   #101
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3rd parties are pretty weak. It's better to infiltrate the other two.

Reform Party - gave us Bill Clinton then faded away.
Libertarian Party - became a front for the dimwits.
Ron Paul Revolution - the conservative version of Bernie Sanders.
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Old August 13, 2019, 22:23   #102
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Reform Party - gave us Bill Clinton then faded away.
Libertarian Party - became a front for the dimwits.
Ron Paul Revolution - the conservative version of Bernie Sanders.
Hillary Clinton - deep statist authoritarianism, under the disguise of pussy politics, "hashtag resist".
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Old August 13, 2019, 22:33   #103
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Hillary was not 3rd party. Hillary was a more aggressive continuation of Bill. Or Bill was the precursor of Hillary. She was never President but she is more famous than he is now.
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Hillary was a more aggressive continuation of Bill. Or Bill was the precursor of Hillary. She was never President but she is more famous than he is now.
Shitlery is deep statist authoritarianism, only this time wearing a pink pussy hat.


appropriate attire for statists.
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Old August 13, 2019, 23:01   #105
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You really have it in for Hillary.
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Old August 14, 2019, 00:14   #107
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Just a few weeks after the last try, the Clintons succeed.
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Now the judge overseeing the case is dead.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-dies-1292394
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Now the judge overseeing the case is dead.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-dies-1292394
Just another old pillow-biter I guess . . .

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Old August 14, 2019, 03:26   #110
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Now the judge overseeing the case is dead.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-dies-1292394
"passed away Sunday at age 96" 96! Should have left the bench at least a couple of decades ago. This paid retirement gig for the legal class is a sweet deal.
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96 year old judge passes away from natural causes..... the only part of this story that's believable. But then there's Ginsburg..
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Old August 14, 2019, 05:03   #112
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Only they are not the same polices.


Since the NL and 5 star parties were elected in Italy, polices such as immigration have changed radically.....


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Lincoln did all that? Or are you saying if the dollar does this and the yuan does that, the planets line up and dogs learn to talk you'll be rich? J boy, if wishes were horses beggars would ride.

Ain't gonna happen. An effective third party will never happen here, the two party system is too entrenched. Election, ya say? Voting, ya say? You live in a world where deep state murders those it can't control in plain sight on a friday night and by monday it's football as usual They even timed it for the news cycle. Nope, no effective third party will ever happen, by the time anything got enough momentum to be effective it'd be hopelessly compromised. One of the two major parties is gonna have to get captured. That means taking the beast head-on, and the odds of prevailing in a fight like that are very long.
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Old August 14, 2019, 05:06   #113
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"son" ???

look asshat you are not my dad or my Yoda
I don't apply those terms dickbag
I'm hardly your "son" in any way shape or form moron

your answer seems to be saying fukk it all
just vote Republican and pray for the best outcome
people who fukk the public as badly as any democrat

but that's all okay with you isn't it dickbag
No. My son would never bring up Lincoln as an example of an effective third party reform the system effort resulting in a reapplication of libertarian principles to American governance. He's a bit smarter than that.

How about 'sonny'. Is that better?
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Looks like his main pimp/madam has also gone MIA.Possibly Argentina, Santa Monica, or under Wriggly Stadium.:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...-is-now-today/

After Epstein's suicide, one unresolved mystery of the case is this: Where is Ghislaine Maxwell?

n Saturday morning, the billionaire financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his jail cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, the result of a suicide. The death, now under investigation by the Justice Department, came a day after shocking new details emerged in the sex abuse case federal prosecutors had been building against him.

Among the newly unsealed documents are lurid details that more deeply implicate British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's former girlfriend and alleged procurer of under-age partners; with his death, Maxwell, alongside other accused accomplices, could now become the focus of the investigation by prosecutors in the Southern District of New York.

There are many unresolved questions around the Epstein case, and one that is now at the forefront is this: Where exactly is Ghislaine Maxwell?
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Looks like his main pimp/madam has also gone MIA.Possibly Argentina, Santa Monica, or under Wriggly Stadium.:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...-is-now-today/

After Epstein's suicide, one unresolved mystery of the case is this: Where is Ghislaine Maxwell?

n Saturday morning, the billionaire financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his jail cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, the result of a suicide. The death, now under investigation by the Justice Department, came a day after shocking new details emerged in the sex abuse case federal prosecutors had been building against him.

Among the newly unsealed documents are lurid details that more deeply implicate British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's former girlfriend and alleged procurer of under-age partners; with his death, Maxwell, alongside other accused accomplices, could now become the focus of the investigation by prosecutors in the Southern District of New York.

There are many unresolved questions around the Epstein case, and one that is now at the forefront is this: Where exactly is Ghislaine Maxwell?
It doesn't matter, this case is now as dead as Epstein. The real people involved range from overseas royalty to the klintons. Epstein was likely a tool of American intelligence which means witnesses will start dropping dead or go into hiding. This whole event reads like a cheap spy novel, the ending just fades away without any real closure.
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Ain't gonna happen. An effective third party will never happen here, the two party system is too entrenched.
Yeah especially if tards like you never VOTE for them.

The only thing entrenched is your beaten wife mentality.



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Looks like his main pimp/madam has also gone MIA.Possibly Argentina, Santa Monica, or under Wriggly Stadium.
Try Israel. Her dad Robert Maxwell is a Mossad asset who was involved in the theft of the INSLAW PROMIS software back in the 80's. Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were/are both Mossad assets who gathered sexual blackmail compromat intel.
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Old August 15, 2019, 01:46   #119
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Autopsy indicates Epstien has multiple crushed bones in his neck including his Hyoid

Generally broken Hyoids are taken as prima facia evidence of homicide by strangulation.

http://www.pjmhsonline.com/2014/apr_...20Fracture.pdf

"The fracture of hyoid bone is most frequently observed in manual strangulation (73%) in the present study as depicted in table 1 followed by ligature strangulation (24%) and hanging (9%)"
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Yeah especially if tards like you never VOTE for them.

The only thing entrenched is your beaten wife mentality.



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... and when ya DO vote for 'em, you get .. wait for it .. Lincoln! Because the other side plays the game too, J ...
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Epstein's autopsy was written up several weeks ago so you can't really expect it to be all that accurate. Unless. of course, you're some nit-picky little bitch

The autopsy was written to indicate attempted suicide as a plausible cause of heart failure. Epstein's heat attack was the cause of death. Actually, Epstein's heart stopping was the real cause of death.

How much more simple can it get? Epstein died from natural causes.
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Epstein's autopsy was written up several weeks ago so you can't really expect it to be all that accurate. Unless. of course, you're some nit-picky little bitch

The autopsy was written to indicate attempted suicide as a plausible cause of heart failure. Epstein's heat attack was the cause of death. Actually, Epstein's heart stopping was the real cause of death.

How much more simple can it get? Epstein died from natural causes.
Apparently the autopsy showed broken bones in his neck. Which is interesting because it takes a relatively long drop to snap the neck when you hang someone apparently (hence the 'long drop' method). My understanding is self-inflicted jailhouse hangings result in strangulation, not broken necks because you simply don't have any way to induce a six foot (or better) fall.
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The prison guards' autopsies are being completed but they can't be released until a somewhat plausible cause of death can be determined.

Car wrecks have been ruled out as being too messy due to airbags and possible witnesses. Suicides are clean but have become mundane

The robbery attempt scenario is the frontrunner and will probably get used. It worked well with several other clean-ups and will fit the ant-gun sentiment of today's media.

It worked well with Seth Rich and the guys who did the job offered a discount rate. The offer expires September 25th and it has to be done Monday thru Friday. The price goes up a little for weekend work.
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I really like how they timed it for the news cycle too. Sitting there thinking about it last night, I have to say it was artfully managed.
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For the record: I did not know Epstein, never met Epstein, never spoke with or corresponded with Epstein. I know nothing NOTHING. Please don’t disappear me.
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If you're surprised Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, just imagine how surprised he was!
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Any Godfather fans here?

If you've watched Godfather Part II, you'll be familiar with this scene and the circumstances surrounding it.

With that in mind, conspiracy theories aside, there's an actual possibility that Jeffery Epstein off'd himself. Perhaps somebody made him an offer he couldn't refuse:



Just sayin'...
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Jail/prison suicides generally don't result in broken bones. Height and strength of hanging device is unnecessary.

Induced strangulation from a hanging device will cause one to black out. All that's needed is a little will power. Once passed out, even from a sitting position just the weight of the body falling over will finish the job.

Severe neck injuries occur when the guy is being uncooperative in his assisted suicide.
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Jail/prison suicides generally don't result in broken bones. Height and strength of hanging device is unnecessary.

Induced strangulation from a hanging device will cause one to black out. All that's needed is a little will power. Once passed out, even from a sitting position just the weight of the body falling over will finish the job.

Severe neck injuries occur when the guy is being uncooperative in his assisted suicide.
While you and bubba are both mostly correct in my opinion I tend to disagree that we are seeing a pre authored autopsy report, frankly I'm amazed that solid evidence of strangulation was pretty much immediately released & not slid under the rug

The thing that gets me is how whoever thought this "hanging" would be bought hook, line and sinker

This didn't go down at some crappy old County Jail, that facility is state of the art holding and he was locked down in it's security wing which is a Protective Custody Unit

As such I doubt there was really anything to hang oneself from in the first place. No bars, overhead fixtures, ect.
For example El Chappo in his MCC Manhattan cell





Could one still hang themselves ?
sure, it's possible I guess but that's not what evidence is pointing towards

Frankly this was an extremely crude hit
I was fully expecting a medical event such as an Insulin OD or something else not easily liked to deliberate homicide
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While you and bubba are both mostly correct in my opinion I tend to disagree that we are seeing a pre authored autopsy report, frankly I'm amazed that solid evidence of strangulation was pretty much immediately released & not slid under the rug

The thing that gets me is how whoever thought this "hanging" would be bought hook, line and sinker

This didn't go down at some crappy old County Jail, that facility is state of the art holding and he was locked down in it's security wing which is a Protective Custody Unit

As such I doubt there was really anything to hang oneself from in the first place. No bars, overhead fixtures, ect.
For example El Chappo in his MCC Manhattan cell





Could one still hang themselves ?
sure, it's possible I guess but that's not what evidence is pointing towards

Frankly this was an extremely crude hit
I was fully expecting a medical event such as an Insulin OD or something else not easily liked to deliberate homicide
Poorly executed murders are a hallmark of arkancides. Like Vince Foster being found in Ft Marcy park with minimal blood, carpet fibers all over his clothes and a pistol he didn't own. Not unlike a mob hit, they want you to know the official story is bullshit while leaving not quite enough physical evidence to nail the real perps in court.

They WANT you to have a sense for the contempt they hold you in, while giving a fig leaf to those who would rather run to their safe place. This is one of the ways they do it.
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Well, at least they have the body to examine. And it's gone.....
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...ciate-n1042551
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Where exactly is Ghislaine Maxwell?

Well given her trust fund and background, it's safe to say she has real legit passports from at least 4 countries, incl. ISRAEL, so don't expect to see her in a Manhattan courtroom any time in calendar 2019... or 2020.

Probably still has infamous Daddy's infamous yacht.

In the meantime she won't be missing any martinis... or lesbian enjoyments with "subbies" under the age of 19... maybe under 16...

If the PTBs really were committed to nabbing her they could, but they're decidedly NOT... unless it's to "suicide" her.

Either way both she and Epstein get a star on the wall at Mossad HQ... alongside Daddy Maxwell's.

Cui bono?... Remember, since the entire raison d'etre of this decades-long honey pot was to give Israel blackmail-leverage over American PTBs, every revelation that comes out in open court is an "arrow" the Izzies lose from their quiver... ergo, Israeli PTBs are scrambling like crazy to corrupt our judicial and prison systems in this matter. Wherever the pen fails, the sword is employed.
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Well, at least they have the body to examine. And it's gone.....
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...ciate-n1042551
Many times if an *associate* doesn't pick up the carcass within 72 hours, the morgue will start charging storage fees.
Epstein had been unemployed for many decades, so...
Probably an unmarked pauper's grave for him.
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Did a little reading. I wonder if the Bl4z3y Ford/K4v4n4ugh thing was in retaliation for the K4v4n4ugh/Vlnce F0st3r thing. So maybe the 3pste1n thing was revisited in retaliation for the Bl4z3y F0rD and R0y M00r3 things, which led to 3pste1n getting removed from the game.

I don't know if I believe that or anything about 3pst1n, but I wondered about it a little.
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