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Old December 17, 2017, 18:01   #1
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Germany to surveil far-right doomsday 'prepper scene'

Germany to surveil far-right doomsday 'prepper scene'

Germany's federal and state interior ministers have decided to keep the country's growing "prepper" scene under surveillance, according to a report by the RND media group. The issue was raised at the interior ministers' conference in Leipzig, where both governing parties, the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and the center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD), were understood to support the measure.

The "prepper scene" refers to a loose network of people collecting firearms and other supplies in preparation for a collapse of state power. There are thought to be well over 100,000 preppers in Germany, and there are suspicions that some members have connection to the far-right, though few details are publicly known.

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Old December 17, 2017, 18:57   #2
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All it takes to be labeled bad is to look like you have connections to the far right(what ever that is). And not just in Germany. Yes anyone we can make look like they are connected to the mythical far right need to have an eye kept on them. Then the far left can do what ever they want and blame the far right.
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And all the while, the muzlim immigrants get a free pass.

Should tell you all you need to know about germanies political leanings.

That, and those in political power do not like to feel threatened by another upcoming political party either.
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I think Austrian preppers will have an easier time of it.
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This kind of crap will push good hard working Germans to the extreme right, not good for their country
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If someone will clearly define " Extreme Right " in one sentence, I will shake their hand, or buy them a Daniel Webster cigar !







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America is more of a collective surveillance state ... everyone is spied on!
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America is more of a collective surveillance state ... everyone is spied on!
And we agree to it when click on the EULA licence on all our software, smart phone apps, vehicle OnStar and similar. Unless you ax the computer, ax the cell phone, ax the tablet, credit cards and go to all cash your every movement and conversation tracked. If opt out of all that will likely find yourself on a list of malcontents trying to purposely hide for another kind of surveillance.
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We're all screwed here, first one to go down to tha government man, have someone left standing in their family warn the rest of us to high tail it out of Dodge, gun up, etc.

Now, that would seem humorous several years ago, ain't too damn funny today!

And we're all extreme right wing, if someone/anyone in power decides to label that one on any of us.
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We're all screwed here, first one to go down to tha government man, have someone left standing in their family warn the rest of us to high tail it out of Dodge, gun up, etc.

Now, that would seem humorous several years ago, ain't too damn funny today!

And we're all extreme right wing, if someone/anyone in power decides to label that one on any of us.
Don't forget that extreme right means "anti-semitic" to these folks, so don't forget to hate yourself.
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Don't forget that extreme right means "anti-semitic" to these folks, so don't forget to hate yourself.

Naw, life is far too short to hate on anything or anyone.

I've found that decent folks don't hate that much, and I like decent folks.
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I'm sure that will make things better over there....
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Europe is already a goner ...... just a matter of time now.
So much for "Never Again"

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/when-do-we-leave-europe/

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Remember Nobama administration ruled conservative Christians as potential domestic terrorists. Basically if vote Republican, go to church and own a gun the left wants you on a list and watched. That's 70% of the people I know. If tax bill passes today going to screw a lot of the ultra rich in California on their home deduction. Has a million dollar limit on deductible home interest. Means all those South Cali seven and eight figure home owners going to pay a lot more federal income tax. I have no problem with pepole in houses that cost over a million bucks paying more taxes. They are the ones that can afford it and if don't like it can downsize.
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So much for "Never Again"

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The greatest generation beat this stupid shit out of most left alive after WWII in Europe, but these "migrants" need to learn that lesson harshly.

Sadly, we're going to end up killing several million of them before they learn better.

France has a real problem, they are trading their best and brightest, their doctors and scientist, university professors for goat herders.
With an aging population, they are set to loose a huge percentage of their doctors, already have in fact, with hospitals and clinics running critically short of highly trained medical people.

No country can allow their best brains to simply leave en mass and expect good things going forward.

France and the rest of Europe allowed these people in, its their problem now and one I don;t see them winning.

The battle of Europe is now lost, the battle for the USA begins.
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Why eastern Germany is the place to buy a medieval castle
The former German Democratic Republic is filled with stately homes and manor houses, and many are available at low prices

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After the Wall came down, a lot of castles were sold off by the state, and the market was flooded with cheap property. Owners received subsidies from the government to renovate them. Some castles have now been modernised and the original buyers want to capitalise on their investment, Ritter says. “Other estates are derelict and uninhabited. The communities have no funds to maintain them, and they are offered at a very cheap price.”Stephen Ferrada, a British car designer, bought a manor house in Saxony at auction in 1996 for the equivalent of €25,000.

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The greatest generation beat this stupid shit out of most left alive after WWII in Europe, but these "migrants" need to learn that lesson harshly.

Sadly, we're going to end up killing several million of them before they learn better.

France has a real problem, they are trading their best and brightest, their doctors and scientist, university professors for goat herders.
With an aging population, they are set to loose a huge percentage of their doctors, already have in fact, with hospitals and clinics running critically short of highly trained medical people.

No country can allow their best brains to simply leave en mass and expect good things going forward.

France and the rest of Europe allowed these people in, its their problem now and one I don;t see them winning.

The battle of Europe is now lost, the battle for the USA begins.

I agree with you 100%.

The problem in Europe is, most of their politicians don't care about their citizens, and there are two things that can (and maybe will) happen:

#1 Muzzie takeover

#2 the rise of a new "Hitler".

I don't know what it takes for a politician to think patriotic. In Germany being a patriot is equaled to being a Nazi.

Germany's authorities do not need to surveil the "prepper scene". They are not much of a threat.
The muzzies pose more of a threat.

German authorities once more get the cart before the horse, and as a former German it pains me to see it, but they do not learn. That's why I got out of there.
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I agree with you 100%.

The problem in Europe is, most of their politicians don't care about their citizens, and there are two things that can (and maybe will) happen:

#1 Muzzie takeover

#2 the rise of a new "Hitler".

I don't know what it takes for a politician to think patriotic. In Germany being a patriot is equaled to being a Nazi.

Germany's authorities do not need to surveil the "prepper scene". They are not much of a threat.
The muzzies pose more of a threat.

German authorities once more get the cart before the horse, and as a former German it pains me to see it, but they do not learn. That's why I got out of there.
What I don't understand with all of this, if its just declining birthrates driving all this stupid shit, why not pay people to screw their brains out, it would be far simpler, better, and cheaper in the long run just to make new little Germans, Frenchmen and wimmin, English, etc, than deal with all this horseshit from the middle east.

October feast is going to look damn funny, with burka clad what evers serving ice water or G-D forbid warm TEA.

If Germany needs help making babies, or even the English, too hell with the French, there are enough old Marines and a few randy Army guys here in the FF to help jump start a baby boom over there.

I myself would consider it a form of lend lease in their time of need.
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Just looking at it from the historical aspect:

The muzzies invaded Spain around 711- 718 AD and southern France later, and were defeated by the Franks under Charles Martel in 732 AD.

The last invasion of the Ottoman Turks (muzzies) culminated in the siege and battle of Vienna in 1683.

If European politicians would have read their history books, they would be more up to speed about that the muzzie religion is not a religion of peace and prosperity, but one of violence, conquest, slavery and oppression.

Modern day example given: the Yazidis in Iraq.

Also, I cannot understand why a number of African Americans are turning towards Islam. In my opinion they are just looking for new slave masters, or do they expect that they would come out on top? Not by a long shot.
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Just looking at it from the historical aspect:

The muzzies invaded Spain around 711- 718 AD and southern France later, and were defeated by the Franks under Charles Martel in 732 AD.

The last invasion of the Ottoman Turks (muzzies) culminated in the siege and battle of Vienna in 1683.

If European politicians would have read their history books, they would be more up to speed about that the muzzie religion is not a religion of peace and prosperity, but one of violence, conquest, slavery and oppression.

Modern day example given: the Yazidis in Iraq.

Also, I cannot understand why a number of African Americans are turning towards Islam. In my opinion they are just looking for new slave masters, or do they expect that they would come out on top? Not by a long shot.
Friends tell me that are tuned into this, and run from it like their ass is on fire, that it is like a cult, that teaches them how to dress, think, behave, it has uniforms, they are part of something larger than themselves, and they gain a pride in themselves they've never felt before. They also accept anyone that will turn over all facets of their life to the big man in charge.

To me, it just looks like another form of modern day slavery, but to each his own, so long as they don;t bother me or mine.
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Friends tell me that are tuned into this, and run from it like their ass is on fire, that it is like a cult, that teaches them how to dress, think, behave, it has uniforms, they are part of something larger than themselves, and they gain a pride in themselves they've never felt before. They also accept anyone that will turn over all facets of their life to the big man in charge.

To me, it just looks like another form of modern day slavery, but to each his own, so long as they don;t bother me or mine.
This tells me that certain folks don't have any real culture, otherwise they would be unwilling to adopt Islam as their faith.

But well, as you said, to each his own. The pride is as fake and phony as it gets. Lemmings.

I've seen enough what a muzzie and socialist African American can do, no need for that.
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If you can identify the movie that phrase comes from without looking it up, I will send the cigar!
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yet they will do nothing about the thousands of returning jihadies.. Deutschland is lost..
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Germany’s government got it always upside down, it had it back then, when I left (2003).

They cannot pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written under the heel.
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Germany’s government got it always upside down, it had it back then, when I left (2003).

They cannot pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written under the heel.
They seem to be waking up, a good sign, they now want Merkle gone before the next election.

I had a chance over the holidays to speak with several friends in Germany, Germans, and they all tell me, the winds of change are blowing and all is not yet lost.

But they all also added, those damned French are still causing shit and stupid.

When the Germans I know begin speaking well of the French, which none are, then I'll be worried all is lost in Germany.
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They seem to be waking up, a good sign, they now want Merkle gone before the next election.

I had a chance over the holidays to speak with several friends in Germany, Germans, and they all tell me, the winds of change are blowing and all is not yet lost.

But they all also added, those damned French are still causing shit and stupid.

When the Germans I know begin speaking well of the French, which none are, then I'll be worried all is lost in Germany.
Germans wake up fairly slow, politically seen.

The problem is, there are way too many political opportunists around in Germany, those that just want to get their names in the paper, regardless for what kind of crap they are spouting off.

Most of those opportunists only got one game plan, and that's being in the public eye, that's all. Common sense ? Never heard of. Working for the people? Never heard of. Making sense when they talk? Never heard of either...

Merkel should have been gone a long time ago, or never been elected. To me she is unfit for public office.

There are a few French that I care for, but generally speaking, they've got the same problem.......one weak gov't after the other, and even after centuries, they only got a caricature of a democracy.
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Germans wake up fairly slow, politically seen.

The problem is, there are way too many political opportunists around in Germany, those that just want to get their names in the paper, regardless for what kind of crap they are spouting off.

Most of those opportunists only got one game plan, and that's being in the public eye, that's all. Common sense ? Never heard of. Working for the people? Never heard of. Making sense when they talk? Never heard of either...

Merkel should have been gone a long time ago, or never been elected. To me she is unfit for public office.

There are a few French that I care for, but generally speaking, they've got the same problem.......one weak gov't after the other, and even after centuries, they only got a caricature of a democracy.
People only put up with so much, then they set out to set things right.
For Europe with their ills, it always ends in all out war.
But it is what it has always been, just the way humans do things.
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Yep, the right wing folks and the preppers are arming up, and it is mostly with weapons that belonged to the East German NVA.

Over there all they need is an incident kinda like an assassination of an important person, or another incident where a bunch of folks get killed or injured, and the shtf.
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The other thing that the German gov’t does, is still maintaining the “holocaust complex” and the gulit.

It is being used for making the public pay €€€. Big time. Almost all of those folks that could have been involved in it, died.

West Germany always paid reparations to Israel, but the East Germans never owned up to it. A lot of them were just as guilty as the Westies.
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The other thing that the German gov’t does, is still maintaining the “holocaust complex” and the gulit.

It is being used for making the public pay €€€. Big time. Almost all of those folks that could have been involved in it, died.

West Germany always paid reparations to Israel, but the East Germans never owned up to it. A lot of them were just as guilty as the Westies.
The sheer scope and size of that horror deserved being remembered and taught so that it could never happen again, but agree, the time to end the sins of the father crap is at hand.

Europe needs a strong Germany now, today, and the past is now best left in the past.

Another shoah can never occur again, not with Israel present on this earth, so its time to move on.
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The sheer scope and size of that horror deserved being remembered and taught so that it could never happen again, but agree, the time to end the sins of the father crap is at hand.

Europe needs a strong Germany now, today, and the past is now best left in the past.

Another shoah can never occur again, not with Israel present on this earth, so its time to move on.
Well. I am glad that you see it that way.

Germany is in such a mess because of commie Merkel’s revenge, and because of those shit-for-brains opportunists. Most of them are girly men, lemmings and weak minded individuals, and no problem solvers.

They are just about as bad for Germany as the muzzies, only in a different way.
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Most of those opportunists only got one game plan, and that's being in the public eye, that's all. Common sense ? Never heard of. Working for the people? Never heard of. Making sense when they talk? Never heard of either...
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I would say much worse. Without one you can't have the other.
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You are kidding, right? Re-read the previous threads to yours for the clue.
Here's a hint!

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