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Old February 12, 2018, 10:30   #51
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You color coordinate mags with rifles?

To look cooler?

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Most importantly to keep ammo organized. Most 5.56 rifle builds in FDE use 50/52 grain and under bullets, Black use a variety unless see a 24" length 0.920" diameter tube out the front or specialty optic, otherwise usually are optimized for 62 grain bullets like Mk 318 Mod 0, M855 and M855A1. Green 5.56 use always uses 77 to 90 grain and whether metal, Lancer polymer or specialty marked know which mag goes in which rifle so bullet lands where optic is aimed. Then I have other rifles with custom finishes to indicate specialty barrel and the mags for it are always finished in same pattern so long as magazine matches rifle it likely has the right ammo.

Below are a pair of identical 6.8's but are sighted in for totally different ammo. Tiger Stripe launches 90 grain Speer Gold Dot and the Reaper Buck is for 110 grain Nosler Accubond. Most of my match grade barrels for 6.8 get built on FDE and use Speer 90 grain TNT or Barnes solids so use metal for Speer and Lancer for Barnes.



Barnes TTSX lobbing 6.8.



This rifle can tell by Magpul flat rubber baseplate is sighted for M855A1 and all mags with that baseplate are loaded with M855A1.



Standard Magpul Ranger Plates on bottom means it launches 69 grain SMK's.



If you pick up a green 5.56 it lobs heavies. In this picture has a black mag with flat rubber base plate that indicate 69 grain SMK's but was still waiting for Cerakote to dry on the mag bodies that were dedicated to the build.



5.56 below was built for varmints and uses 50 grain tipped bullets. The Burris red dot was on it for testing and tuning gas system while waited on a scope to ship, now sports a FDE 6-24x.



I tried to consolidate AR cartridges a couple of years ago. Tore down my TAC 20's, 204 Rugers, 6.5 Grendel, 300 BO's and more. Had pile of 5.56 and 6.8's for me plus a pair of 5.728's for the wife. Dang if it didn't get real boring real quick. Have been a wildcat cartridge shooter all my life and just had to go back to the fun of diversity and tweaking new rifles and loads. Now have 22 Nosler's, 270 AR, TAC 6 aka 6mm/6.8 and expanding my poodle shooter collection again so keeping ammo properly segregated is important and matching mags to rifles makes it easier. If go to shove a tiger stripe mag in a black rifle may be loading 6.8 Gold Dots in a 5.56 rifle. If magazine is a dead solid match for rifle odds are high that you have right combination.

This carries through with my AR 10's as only reason started building them was for various cartridges as already had plenty of 7.62 NATO rifles. Had six builds done and parts for seven and eight when found a super deal on a pair of factory 7.62 AR 10's so finally have a pair. Even have a green FAL that is advisable to stick the green FAL mags in it if want it to be happy and cycle correctly plus hit what aiming at. So yes, it does look cool at the range but more importantly matching mags to rifle finish reduces chance of a mistake. That is most important reason.
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Old February 12, 2018, 19:01   #52
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Another shipment just arrived. Except for quality of finish love them otherwise. Have a couple dozen plan to Cerakote OD Green and anther couple dozen going to be changed to black. Don't have enough FDE rifles to support this many tan magazines. Am up to about 60 total now so will probably slack off except as see super deals as this last batch was but now that have been using them for a while and have several hundred rounds through them they are good magazines in my rifles.

Damm , you clean O'Frank out again ? lol....
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Old February 12, 2018, 19:29   #53
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Damm , you clean O'Frank out again ? lol....
I like franks stuff too...but sure don't need a gob of those FDE mags. Good old gray GI mags work for me. Though my son likes the FDE mags in his Tavor as it's FDE color.
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Damm , you clean O'Frank out again ? lol&....
Those didn't come from Frank. Were even cheaper than his or else wouldn't have bought more right now. Guy sold me 18 for $150 shipped to my door but that was all he had. Told him when got more if could keep price low would buy more. At $8.33 vs $7.99 for D&H from Palmetto the 34 cents was insinificant. Had to go buy another pair of fireproof/waterproof boxes rated for one story fall to concrete. One loaded with 5.56 mags, other with 6.8/22 Nosler all new in wrapper. Inventory in storage cabinet at work for eventual Cerakote or wrap finishes is growing and believe I am now at the highest AR magazine inventory ever including when I had the 55 gallon drum totally filled to overflowing.

My goal now for magazines are some more of the 60 round AR 15 drums and 50 round AR 10 drums. Set up the pair of AR 10's for heavy volume binary use and have more binary AR's than ever planned but finding the deal on Franklin Gen 3 triggers could not pass up like the day/night ATN X Scopes that arrived today found for $499 each shipped to my door. Normally not an I.R. night vision fan but at that price put them in the locker. Know have hit 1,000 AR mags now but when Dems take the White House back will be better than gold or any 401K.

Found a pair of SWAT Firearms billet receivers that are some of the heaviest built AR 15 receivers have ever built on. Plan is to buy a pair of FN machine gun rated steel hammer forged barrels like use in M249's with double layer chrome plating that FN states 20,000 round life and build a pair of burly heat absorbing binary AR 15's to match the binary AR 10's with goal to create rifles that can mag dump binary fire from drum mags till someone gets the idea they may need to leave. One of the binary AR 10's and heavy AR 15's will each get an ATN X Sight day/night scope now.

Since never been a fan of drum mags now working on collecting up a few. Have some new 308 ammo if mix in with M80A1 and tracer even light armor vehicles will find some weak points. Stuff blows through 1/2" AR 500 armor at 300 yards. 1/4" AR 500 is supposed to stop 308 ball at point blank range. If world goes sideways want to be able to create a pile of dead vehicles blocking the road as far as can see in either direction that others can't pass in first few hours of whatever snaps the fuse. Flu gets much worse this year and we might have a pandemic fuse blow. Plus burly rifles with binary fire control are fun to occasionally take to the range with a muzzle brake instead of suppressor and watch the benches clear up and down the range.

Have all the standard builds could want, all the high end builds, too many odd cartridge/wildcat builds so now it's time for some pure goofy rifles to fill a niche that my AC556 can't. When Franklin releases their binary system for H&K battle rifles will jump on one of those and have a for sure able to take the abuse battle stick. We installed under bed vaults on both sides of upstairs beds and not only is the extra storage nice, being right under the bed makes for a pile of rifles handy to grab. Going to have to buy the wife a new Harley this spring to keep her from noticing how many new rifles are appearing.
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Old February 13, 2018, 18:14   #55
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Those didn't come from Frank. Were even cheaper than his or else wouldn't have bought more right now. Guy sold me 18 for $150 shipped to my door but that was all he had. Told him when got more if could keep price low would buy more. At $8.33 vs $7.99 for D&H from Palmetto the 34 cents was insinificant. Had to go buy another pair of fireproof/waterproof boxes rated for one story fall to concrete. One loaded with 5.56 mags, other with 6.8/22 Nosler all new in wrapper. Inventory in storage cabinet at work for eventual Cerakote or wrap finishes is growing and believe I am now at the highest AR magazine inventory ever including when I had the 55 gallon drum totally filled to overflowing.

My goal now for magazines are some more of the 60 round AR 15 drums and 50 round AR 10 drums. Set up the pair of AR 10's for heavy volume binary use and have more binary AR's than ever planned but finding the deal on Franklin Gen 3 triggers could not pass up like the day/night ATN X Scopes that arrived today found for $499 each shipped to my door. Normally not an I.R. night vision fan but at that price put them in the locker. Know have hit 1,000 AR mags now but when Dems take the White House back will be better than gold or any 401K.

Found a pair of SWAT Firearms billet receivers that are some of the heaviest built AR 15 receivers have ever built on. Plan is to buy a pair of FN machine gun rated steel hammer forged barrels like use in M249's with double layer chrome plating that FN states 20,000 round life and build a pair of burly heat absorbing binary AR 15's to match the binary AR 10's with goal to create rifles that can mag dump binary fire from drum mags till someone gets the idea they may need to leave. One of the binary AR 10's and heavy AR 15's will each get an ATN X Sight day/night scope now.

Since never been a fan of drum mags now working on collecting up a few. Have some new 308 ammo if mix in with M80A1 and tracer even light armor vehicles will find some weak points. Stuff blows through 1/2" AR 500 armor at 300 yards. 1/4" AR 500 is supposed to stop 308 ball at point blank range. If world goes sideways want to be able to create a pile of dead vehicles blocking the road as far as can see in either direction that others can't pass in first few hours of whatever snaps the fuse. Flu gets much worse this year and we might have a pandemic fuse blow. Plus burly rifles with binary fire control are fun to occasionally take to the range with a muzzle brake instead of suppressor and watch the benches clear up and down the range.

Have all the standard builds could want, all the high end builds, too many odd cartridge/wildcat builds so now it's time for some pure goofy rifles to fill a niche that my AC556 can't. When Franklin releases their binary system for H&K battle rifles will jump on one of those and have a for sure able to take the abuse battle stick. We installed under bed vaults on both sides of upstairs beds and not only is the extra storage nice, being right under the bed makes for a pile of rifles handy to grab. Going to have to buy the wife a new Harley this spring to keep her from noticing how many new rifles are appearing.
That's a good price . I paid $10 each for mine . Didn't like them , so out the door they went .

Can't Wait for Knob Creek Machine Gun shoot & show in April . You could find 249 barrels there for cheap .
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Old February 14, 2018, 08:36   #56
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I can actually flip FDE metal military 30 round metal mags for $20 each right now. Enough guys with FDE rifles that love anything authentic military and not good at looking. Considering price paid plus shipping not quite enough to flip unless someone just has to have a couple. Where most people are not getting these is they are optimized for feeding M855A1 which is wearing down feed ramps fast with other magazines. These were made specifically to help reduce that feed ramp erosion with the new ammo but for most it doesn't matter. For me it does.

I am sitting on large pile of M855A1 and can get more. If had to load up a couple thousand rounds will stick in these mags so doesn't prematurely wear rifles anymore than necessary if went crazy on multiple binary mag dumps. Not tried the M855A1 in my AC556 as finding service work is high on those and replacing a barrel because the bullets beat rear of chamber up running in at full speed is not worth sacrificing the rifle. I have outpatient today so may stuff another 500 to 1,000 M855A1 projectiles in Lake City cases while sit tomorrow out from work. Got enough milspec have a load that chronographs very close and point of impact at 100 yards is within 3/8" of milspec M855A1 using pull downs so can use either or my turbocharged 22 Nosler M855A1 loads.
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M193 55gr is all i run in my AR's ,

I tried SS109/855 / Works great in the w-zone against vests . But zip's right through ya with out . No need for 855A1 .
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M855A1 penetrates barriers and armor better than M855 green tip but performs in human tissue with similar wound channel as Mk 318 Mod 0. It's one of the new "smart" bullets that know difference between barriers and tissue. Bullet technology has improved dramatically in past decade and projectiles can hit flesh and go all loopy creating a devastating wound channel immediately but if hit armor drills through and as soon as it finds water based tissue goes instantly loopy tumbling and ripping a big gaping hole. I don't shoot M855A1 except for testing and stockpiled for an emergency.

For daily shooting I use a mix of 62 grain FMJ lead core for run and gun training then 69 grain SMK's for more precise shooting. Have a stockpile of M193 55 grain ammo for my old 1:12 twist Pony rifles and a few builds with 1:9 or slower twist. Have found with varied 1:7, 1:8 and 1:9 twist rifles 69 grain bullets are very accurate in all so make good general purpose ammo. Some 1:9 barrels won't do well with 72 to 79 grain bullets but 69 will stabilize in them. In house have two of the MTM 15 magazine boxes loaded with 69 grain ammo. Have one MTM box filled with magazines loaded using M855A1 then another 15 magazines of 6.8 spc II 90 grain Gold Dots. Figure that's enough loaded AR 15 mags other than what's in the rifles they feed considering have boxes of 7.62 mags loaded for FAL's and M1a's.
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M855A1 penetrates barriers and armor better than M855 green tip but performs in human tissue with similar wound channel as Mk 318 Mod 0. It's one of the new "smart" bullets that know difference between barriers and tissue. Bullet technology has improved dramatically in past decade and projectiles can hit flesh and go all loopy creating a devastating wound channel immediately but if hit armor drills through and as soon as it finds water based tissue goes instantly loopy tumbling and ripping a big gaping hole. I don't shoot M855A1 except for testing and stockpiled for an emergency.

For daily shooting I use a mix of 62 grain FMJ lead core for run and gun training then 69 grain SMK's for more precise shooting. Have a stockpile of M193 55 grain ammo for my old 1:12 twist Pony rifles and a few builds with 1:9 or slower twist. Have found with varied 1:7, 1:8 and 1:9 twist rifles 69 grain bullets are very accurate in all so make good general purpose ammo. Some 1:9 barrels won't do well with 72 to 79 grain bullets but 69 will stabilize in them. In house have two of the MTM 15 magazine boxes loaded with 69 grain ammo. Have one MTM box filled with magazines loaded using M855A1 then another 15 magazines of 6.8 spc II 90 grain Gold Dots. Figure that's enough loaded AR 15 mags other than what's in the rifles they feed considering have boxes of 7.62 mags loaded for FAL's and M1a's.
In the last few years , I had to upgrade and dumped a lot of my older weapons .
And now , all are the newer version military grade , except for one 1/9 HBAR 20'' . I'll never let that one go . But rotation is necessary to me every 5 years .
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In the last few years , I had to upgrade and dumped a lot of my older weapons .
And now , all are the newer version military grade , except for one 1/9 HBAR 20'' . I'll never let that one go . But rotation is necessary to me every 5 years .
I still own guns I purchased in the 1970's. Otherwise the now $3,000 Pythons and similar overpriced guns of various makes could not own. Think $650 is most I ever paid for a Colt snake gun. Have pile of Diamondbacks, Pythons, Cobras and an Anaconda. If wanted to buy them now would not spend the money. Bought in early 80's were not budget busters. Same with SP1 AR's, unless trip across an occasional deal I would not have any except hung on to the ones I bought in 70's and 80's.
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M193 55gr is all i run in my AR's ,

I tried SS109/855 / Works great in the w-zone against vests . But zip's right through ya with out . No need for 855A1 .
Might want to look up some 855A1 gel tests.

Have a few of these mags. Going to field strip first
and will test them out in a couple weeks.
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