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Old June 29, 2018, 14:14   #1
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Is anyone familiar with this aluminum magic?

I know nothing about welding except that I can't afford any equipment. This looks like even I could use it!
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Old June 29, 2018, 14:28   #2
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Was there supposed to be a video, pictures, link or anything?
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Old June 29, 2018, 15:09   #3
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I was so excited I forgot the link!

https://www.aluminumrepair.com/video-of-actual-repairs/
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Old June 29, 2018, 15:57   #4
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I'm no expert but IMHO it looks like a fairly simple brazing operation. Nothing magic........


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Here in town, about 20min from me. Might have to pick some up and play with it a little.

The brazing rods ya twisted fuggs!!!!!!!
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Yep looks like vapor ware to me.
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Old June 30, 2018, 11:02   #7
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I know nothing about welding except that I can't afford any equipment. This looks like even I could use it!
What are you trying to repair?
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Old June 30, 2018, 12:13   #8
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What are you trying to repair?
Nothing at the moment but it i had some of this....
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shows outside the box thinking

a alloyed rod that adheres to the parent metal and becomes stronger than the metal it is joining


for reference; think Certaniam Alloy welding rods ..... 707 , 889 and others
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Old June 30, 2018, 19:23   #10
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It has been several years but at an auto show once I saw a guy brazing on a coke can with some rod, pretty neat but I did not buy any.
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Old June 30, 2018, 20:04   #11
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It has been several years but at an auto show once I saw a guy brazing on a coke can with some rod, pretty neat but I did not buy any.
Yep I fell face first into that one. It’s a low metal point alloy of some sort.
It works on very thin material like a coke can but anything much thicker
and the base metal won’t get hot enough to bond with filler material.
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Aluminum really dissipates heat fast,so ordinary propane usually won't cut it. MAPP gas or similar works better. Also,clean the ever-living snot out of the two surfaces you want welded,with a stainless wire brush. Remove all surface oxidation,scrub down to exposed,clean aluminum.
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Aluminum really dissipates heat fast,so ordinary propane usually won't cut it. MAPP gas or similar works better. Also,clean the ever-living snot out of the two surfaces you want welded,with a stainless wire brush. Remove all surface oxidation,scrub down to exposed,clean aluminum.
And preheat the aluminum part before welding..........
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I also saw it at a gun or outdoor show and bought a few sizes as wall as a local metal supply and hwd store that has a larger stick 1/4 x 3/4 inch or so.

Have used the 1/4 round stick and it works well, have not used the larger stick.
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I saw it yrs ago at a fun show. It works for sealing holes. Don’t know how strong it is.
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Have a Miller MIG (Millermatic 252) welder with 30 amp spool gun for aluminum and steel, Maxstar 280 TIG with 1 amp to 280 amp range plus a portable gasoline powered Miller with TIG control head in case have to do aluminum or other odd repair in field. Being able to work low as one amp and a decent operator can weld beer cans together without blow outs.

Those rods look interesting as with the set of MAP gas bottles carry in toolbox of daily drivers ability to fix a small issue with aluminum would be huge at times and not have to go get the big service truck or if working on roof of a building could drag my portable torch kit up and repair aluminum without having to try and get the Maxstar up top with a small bottle if have power to run it. Appreciate the info and review from user farther down the thread.
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Have a Miller MIG (Millermatic 252) welder with 30 amp spool gun for aluminum and steel, Maxstar 280 TIG with 1 amp to 280 amp range plus a portable gasoline powered Miller with TIG control head in case have to do aluminum or other odd repair in field. Being able to work low as one amp and a decent operator can weld beer cans together without blow outs.

Those rods look interesting as with the set of MAP gas bottles carry in toolbox of daily drivers ability to fix a small issue with aluminum would be huge at times and not have to go get the big service truck or if working on roof of a building could drag my portable torch kit up and repair aluminum without having to try and get the Maxstar up top with a small bottle if have power to run it. Appreciate the info and review from user farther down the thread.
Is there anything you don’t own or can’t do? You must be a multi millionaire.....
with a 195 IQ.........
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This will work for covering a blind pin on a muzzlebrake project I'll be doing shortly.
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Hold my beer and watch this...
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Have a Miller MIG (Millermatic 252) welder with 30 amp spool gun for aluminum and steel, Maxstar 280 TIG with 1 amp to 280 amp range plus a portable gasoline powered Miller with TIG control head in case have to do aluminum or other odd repair in field. Being able to work low as one amp and a decent operator can weld beer cans together without blow outs.

Those rods look interesting as with the set of MAP gas bottles carry in toolbox of daily drivers ability to fix a small issue with aluminum would be huge at times and not have to go get the big service truck or if working on roof of a building could drag my portable torch kit up and repair aluminum without having to try and get the Maxstar up top with a small bottle if have power to run it. Appreciate the info and review from user farther down the thread.
You really are full of shit. A model 30A spoolgun is good for 200 amps... I know, I have used them. A Maxstar 280 has no AC output... How do you TIG alu off that? And what is the "Magic Box" you use on your gas drive Miller? Long time aluminum welding guy here... Everything from 1/2" thick dumpboxes to .062" wall pipe work.
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Is there anything you don’t own or can’t do? You must be a multi millionaire.....
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Obviously you donh't own or have run a business and know what it costs to do so.

Price a 55 foot High Ranger mounted on a Top Kick with Caterpillar engine, welder, hoist and all the tools and supplies to keep it stoked... An easy six figures or more than I paid for my house.



How about a $65,000 CNC router by time its shipped, wired in and all accessories plus a $7,500 piece of software to run it along with end mills and custom bits plan on dropping $80k to get it up and running.





Or a $25,000 printer and $11,000 plotter with a $3,500 piece of software to run them times three work stations racks up another $150k before stock any consumables.





Price a 30 horsepower air compressor, after-cooler and all the other accessories like breathable air filtration system and mask/hood to go with it when don't want to die in the spray booth.



Maybe stock a half dozen roll away tool chests with tools so all the employees have something more than a sharp stick and a rock to work with.



Filling the drawers is not cheap.







New this was a $2,000 spline drive air wrench and a $2,000 torque wrench.



These specialty tool bags probably have over a grand in each and employees can get sticky fingers.



Don't even want to know how much have on these shelves in small power tools.



Between a roof to keep it all dry, walls and alarm to keep it from being stolen, insurance, software, CPA's, lawyers and such a million dollars is basically a start on a small business but you prove over and over you have no clue. Try signing a half dozen pay checks on Friday, pay your workmans comp an match Social Security, etc.... Why I only have part time workers I trust now. When you go into work on Monday maybe thank your boss for your paycheck, the equipment use to earn it and the roof keeping you dry.



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You really are full of shit. A model 30A spoolgun is good for 200 amps... I know, I have used them. A Maxstar 280 has no AC output... How do you TIG alu off that? And what is the "Magic Box" you use on your gas drive Miller? Long time aluminum welding guy here... Everything from 1/2" thick dumpboxes to .062" wall pipe work.
Found enough pictures in my phone, have a Millermatic 251 with 30 amp spool gun, not a 252 but very li8ttle difference if any. Also the TIG is a CST 280 set up for stick in this picture but can see the TIG pedal foreground and TIG torches/regulators in the box under the machine. Also the TIG head for the portable welder on truck is behind the machines with the Edelbrock box sitting on top and my little Lincoln machine is sitting off to the left. No pictures of the gasoline powered Miller in back of the service truck, so sad...





Of course need a metal Brake or two and a shear if doing any real fabrication.





I haven't even touched on woodworking equipment. Opps, better show something or am a liar for saying can do woodworking around here.



Can even do our own heat treating in shop. Posted enough machine shop equipment in past so will forgo it unless someone thinks it all walked off other than the big lathe I sold.



Heat of summer and really cold of winter even have to be equipped to do HVAC work as signs and batteries slow down on occasion.



With the entirety of equipment I have in the shop and on three trucks without actually being eyes on it or waste an hour and a half finding pictures I can't remember every model number on every piece. I do know what it will cost to replace if building burns to ground and can only afford enough insurance to build the building back and replace half at best.

Why have a Halon fire suppression system over the more expensive items and offices to hopefully slow a fire so its not a total loss. Running a welding shop, wood working and paint booth under same roof and the insurance company stabs me for $1,200 month even though have never had a single claim as we are careful.

I really don't want to post another 50 photos to keep people from saying I can't have what say is under the roof. Just give me a call and stop in for a visit. Its all there.
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Maybe stock a half dozen roll away tool chests with tools so all the employees have something more than a sharp stick and a rock to work with.

Now wait a minute. Are you criticizing CAI's gunsmithing skills?

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Anything you can do to keep their finger from sticking to what does not belong to them?
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