I've been pondering...

rowjimmy · January 14, 2013, 19:02

...are we so close to the economic abyss or other Earth shattering, era changing events that they are fast tracking the gun control agenda to get as many off the streets as soon as possible?

Look at the horrendous NY restriction to 7 rounds and the immediacy with which they're pushing the bill. Maybe we have until summer, and then it's tits up for a good portion of us.

gates · January 14, 2013, 19:05

Sure looks that way - lots of urgency on this though they would explain it as striking while the iron is hot considering Americans attention span.

juanni · January 14, 2013, 19:16

Well I think the economic collapse is always eminent in the current propped up house of cards,,,,, but any laws they pass aren't going to make one bit of difference at this point.
Not with 300 million guns floating around.

Anyone that is attempting to arm up and become proficient enough to matter, has done so a long time ago.

On the other hand, those massive Homeland Security ammo purchases are definitely getting ready.

............juanni

**L Haney** · January 14, 2013, 19:23

I got dibs on the 'pondering. Leave me to it.

rowjimmy · January 14, 2013, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by L Haney

I got dibs on the 'pondering. Leave me to it.

Sorry Haney...I'm not looking for a turf war.

Nick H. · January 14, 2013, 19:44

I honestly think most of the politicians are too incompetent to know anything about an economic abyss. Most of them think we can raise the debt limit and go on indefinitely. In order to get elected, they need to know how to connect with people's emotions and make them feel good. Connecting with mathematics or economics just isn't what they are good at.

stitcher · January 14, 2013, 20:38

I think the boys on top know what's coming, they've just been getting set up and looking for the upper hand.

Brett · January 15, 2013, 01:27

Seems to me obama lives from one crisis to the next and uses all of them to take our freedom and/or money.

juanni · January 15, 2013, 01:46

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Originally Posted by Brett

Seems to me obama lives from one crisis to the next and uses all of them to take our freedom and/or money.

Perhaps that is because you have not been paying attention.
The Patriot Act, TARP and the beginnings of the auto bailout were all done under Bush.

............juanni

RG Coburn · January 15, 2013, 03:22

That,or just the exact opposite....motivating people to go out and arm up..What has been the end result?

JasonB · January 15, 2013, 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowjimmy

...are we so close to the economic abyss or other Earth shattering, era changing events that they are fast tracking the gun control agenda to get as many off the streets as soon as possible?

Wasn't something along those lines the real "need" behind the first big gun control push in the UK back in the early 1900s? I can recall it was not crime rates, but can't recall the real issue.

carguym14 · January 15, 2013, 09:14

I've been doing some pondering myself-I don't think there will be an economic abyss anytime soon.

Listening to that f*ckstain Krugman tells me that they have all sorts of ways yet to prolong the inevitable.

The gun control fiasco is simply about more power and control-it is inevitable as we march forward and lose freedoms every year.The State wants to grow and expand,and does so no matter which side of the coin holds power.

There is no way to change things at the ballot box-we know that and they know that,so the next logical step is to start removing all forms of resistance from the peasantry.

Interesting times.

ronpaulFAL · January 15, 2013, 09:45

OP: The answer is yes.

I don't think they have the financial skills to really understand what is going on- that paying down our debt requires an end to QE with a consequential rise in interest rates which would then may repayment of our foreign-held debt all but impossible. Nonetheless, they do have plenty of Wall Street guys who have seen the numbers that are non-public and have surely come to this conclusion. We are in the phase where they are trying to keep us afloat, but are starting to understand that it can't go on indefinitely. They just don't want to be standing when the music stops.

And they don't want people armed when the music stops.

gunnutt · January 15, 2013, 09:53

I think He did it to get the economy moving. What else could we talk about that would spur a buying panic? Corvette's, no I know: BOOZE

January 14, 2013, 19:02	#1
rowjimmy Registered FALaholic #: 21662 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 3,420	I've been pondering... ...are we so close to the economic abyss or other Earth shattering, era changing events that they are fast tracking the gun control agenda to get as many off the streets as soon as possible? Look at the horrendous NY restriction to 7 rounds and the immediacy with which they're pushing the bill. Maybe we have until summer, and then it's tits up for a good portion of us.

January 14, 2013, 19:16	#3
juanni Registered FALaholic #: 2439 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: up a creek in MT Posts: 8,202	Well I think the economic collapse is always eminent in the current propped up house of cards,,,,, but any laws they pass aren't going to make one bit of difference at this point. Not with 300 million guns floating around. Anyone that is attempting to arm up and become proficient enough to matter, has done so a long time ago. On the other hand, those massive Homeland Security ammo purchases are definitely getting ready. ............juanni __________________ Originally posted by VonFireball on 10/26/2012 Actually you, Jason B, and Herr Goebbels are pretty much the only communists on this board.

January 14, 2013, 19:23	#4
L Haney Seriously Ponderin' Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 20446 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NW Ga Posts: 8,359	I got dibs on the 'pondering. Leave me to it. __________________ “I am quite sure I do not get what is so funny about my RO style." stimpsonjcat You'd have to be there, and if you ain't it's your loss.

January 14, 2013, 19:44	#6
Nick H. Registered FALaholic #: 9591 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 582	I honestly think most of the politicians are too incompetent to know anything about an economic abyss. Most of them think we can raise the debt limit and go on indefinitely. In order to get elected, they need to know how to connect with people's emotions and make them feel good. Connecting with mathematics or economics just isn't what they are good at. __________________ Enjoying rural Idaho.

January 14, 2013, 20:38	#7
stitcher Registered FALaholic #: 65879 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Somerset, Pa Posts: 311	I think the boys on top know what's coming, they've just been getting set up and looking for the upper hand. __________________ "There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men." - Edmund Burke

January 14, 2013, 19:05	#2
gates Registered FALaholic #: 129 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: phx az Posts: 10,344	Sure looks that way - lots of urgency on this though they would explain it as striking while the iron is hot considering Americans attention span.

January 15, 2013, 01:27	#8
Brett Registered FALaholic #: 3389 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wichita Posts: 2,238	Seems to me obama lives from one crisis to the next and uses all of them to take our freedom and/or money. __________________ If dogs could talk there would be more dogfights.

January 15, 2013, 03:22	#10
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,890	That,or just the exact opposite....motivating people to go out and arm up..What has been the end result?

January 15, 2013, 09:14	#12
carguym14 Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 13162 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 5,959	I've been doing some pondering myself-I don't think there will be an economic abyss anytime soon. Listening to that f*ckstain Krugman tells me that they have all sorts of ways yet to prolong the inevitable. The gun control fiasco is simply about more power and control-it is inevitable as we march forward and lose freedoms every year.The State wants to grow and expand,and does so no matter which side of the coin holds power. There is no way to change things at the ballot box-we know that and they know that,so the next logical step is to start removing all forms of resistance from the peasantry. Interesting times. __________________ Anything not under government control is,by definition,out of control. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. When is it time to pick up your rifle? When your conscience cannot abide to see it unused. 1gewehr 8/3/05

January 15, 2013, 09:45	#13
ronpaulFAL Registered FALaholic #: 65535 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: somewhere Posts: 2,165	OP: The answer is yes. I don't think they have the financial skills to really understand what is going on- that paying down our debt requires an end to QE with a consequential rise in interest rates which would then may repayment of our foreign-held debt all but impossible. Nonetheless, they do have plenty of Wall Street guys who have seen the numbers that are non-public and have surely come to this conclusion. We are in the phase where they are trying to keep us afloat, but are starting to understand that it can't go on indefinitely. They just don't want to be standing when the music stops. And they don't want people armed when the music stops.

January 15, 2013, 09:53	#14
gunnutt Registered FALaholic #: 14732 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 136	I think He did it to get the economy moving. What else could we talk about that would spur a buying panic? Corvette's, no I know: BOOZE

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