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Old July 19, 2018, 18:49   #1
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Hot blueing a side-by-side shotgun???

A friend recently got an old Fox 410 shotty from a cousin that belonged to his grandpa.

It is pretty rough looking and he just called me and asked about the cost of a professional hot blue. I have no idea and don't know anyone local that even does it any more.

Any pointers as to who might do this and/or an idea of the cost these days?
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Old July 19, 2018, 20:21   #2
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Its a Fox,,,or a Savage Fox ?

A Fox is probably soft soldered and requires rust bluing, not hot blue, or the barrels might loose their soldered ribs.
410ga SxS are rarer birds anyway,,,Id do some research before anything..

Fwiw Mike,,,Fox vs Savage Fox is kind of along the lines of corvette vs corvair..
Corvairs are kool,,,but they ant' corvettes

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Old July 19, 2018, 20:56   #3
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Its a Fox,,,or a Savage Fox ?
Thank you, I always appreciate your good counsel my friend

To answer your question. I don't know. He stopped by a couple weeks ago to show me this cool 410 SxS that he last saw when he was 8 y/o when his grandma shot a cat with it (no I don't know the story behind that story-LOL). He is now 65. His cousin got it from the Grandpa at some point, but cuz is getting well up in age and wanted to give it to a family member who would appreciate it.

I really did not look at it closely but just listened to his story and did see it was in pretty rough shape. I will have to check it out a little closer.
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Old July 20, 2018, 08:33   #4
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double barreled shotguns and firearms with soft soldered parts are generally not hot blued!....Can cause the soldered parts to come apart...the highly corrosive bluing salts can/will get between the barrels and rot them.

The barrels are usually rust blued with solutions like Pilkington rust blue or Belgian blue etc. The barrels are cleaned thoroughly and suspended from wire and the solution applied and allowed to rust in a humidity cabinet for a period of time(24 hours or so)...then 'carded' boiled and solution reapplied...back in the cabinet...repeat as many times as needed for good rust blue job.


The rest of a double barrel shotgun can be hot blued.

I will say that I have seen gunsmiths do what they call a 'quick-dip'...this is where they heat-up the hot blue solution(a solid at room temp) to operating temp...then drop the barrels in and remove them before the barrels get too hot to un-solder. Still a risk of getting the caustic and corrosive solution between the barrels...and not something I would want done to any of my double-guns.


Some of the cold blue solutions such as Oxpho-blue..Van's instant gun blue..4440 blue can do a fair good job. Some cold blue is crap.


The moral to the story...don't hot-blue double barrel shotgun barrels....some single barrel guns either as they can lose soldered on parts too
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I'm not too much of a connoisseur and didn't want to mention this. If it's in bad shape, wouldn't any kind of blueing make it look worse?

I would tend to Parkerize if it was a bit rough, it might hide some of the rough spots. Would Parkerizing be a bad way to go concerning the soft silver solider?
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Old July 20, 2018, 20:06   #6
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Any pointers as to who might do this and/or an idea of the cost these days?
The people with good answers live here ->
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
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I'm not too much of a connoisseur and didn't want to mention this. If it's in bad shape, wouldn't any kind of blueing make it look worse?

I would tend to Parkerize if it was a bit rough, it might hide some of the rough spots. Would Parkerizing be a bad way to go concerning the soft silver solider?
still a hot bath proceedure so no go.
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My standard answer is parkerize it.
(I've polish blued exactly one 1911.. . Never again.)

In this case id paint it!
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My standard answer is parkerize it.
(I've polish blued exactly one 1911.. . Never again.)

In this case id paint it!

Ive rust blued, hot blued, cold blued and fire blued..
But being an American of Sicilian and Polish decent, youve sparked my interest and I have to ask,,exactly what is polish blue
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