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Old November 20, 2012, 18:38   #1
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Mauser question

I have a sporterized 95 mauser that I would like to build back up into a decent deer/hunting rifle. The original barrel has been cut back to 16" and is chambered in 7x57. I can't remember if the 95 action is a long or medium action.

So my question is, should I rebarrel with 7x57? I am thinking that I would really like to go with the 6.5x55 swede because it is flatter shooting and, I think, a better cartridge than the 7mm. Will this action take the round and would I be pushing the pressure limit on the receiver?
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Old November 20, 2012, 19:07   #2
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It should handle factory-level loads for 6,5X55 okay, unless I'm badly mistaken. Not a huge difference between the 95 and 96 Mausers.
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Old November 20, 2012, 19:20   #3
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I think 7x57 is pretty serviceable, but you know how opinions are.
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Old November 20, 2012, 20:48   #4
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I love my 6.5x55 sporter but, I'm using all 29" of the Gustav barrel. Staying with the 7x57, which is still a viable cartridge, you won't need to change the bolt or, open the bolt face of the 95. The rim of the Swede has a larger diameter. All do-able otherwise of course.

The 7x57 can be necked down 6.5x57 though too, and you can load for the same ballistics as the swede. Something to consider.
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Old November 21, 2012, 23:36   #5
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Thanks guys. I guess I should have added that the bubba's barrel is not in the best of shape and needs replacing. I intend to have a much longer barrel on the rifle. 22" minimum. Opening up the bolt face if I go with the Swede won't be a problem either, since I have a lathe.

I know the 7mm is a good cartridge and will take a deer down easily. But it seems that all of the hunter/gun guru's lists of favorite calibers have the Swede in the upper half of the list and not the 7mm. I guess I am just stuck on the Swede cartridge. I like the mild recoil (7mm ain't bad either) and really like the ballistics of the bullets. I was thinking of getting a faster twist barrel so I could shoot some of the heavier bullets if needed.

While the 6.5x57 would satisfy the ballistics, I am looking for readily available commercial loads so as to not worry about having to roll my own.
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Old November 22, 2012, 00:03   #6
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Aaaahhh, since you're going to re-barrel, 22"-24" inchs is a good choice I think, with the original 1-7.5 rifling or the later 1-9 for 140gr or lighter. Personally I think I'd stay with the 1-7.5 but that's me.

Off the shelf Prvi and the S&B are pretty good and readily available in 140gr with the 146gr a little harder to find.

I'm recuperating from foot surgery at the moment and, can't get to the basement for my load data book but, in a day or two when I can, I'll share my data with you if you do decide to spin some. LMK. The most satisfactory reloading time for me ever has been for my Swede.

Good luck with this project and keep us updated
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OK, I'll be the one to rain on your party, or at least give you something to consider.

Have you priced out this project yet? Refurbing old Mausers hasn't been worth the effort value wise for some time. I've "Sporterized" Mausers, both 95's and 98's, along with Springfields in years gone by, but they were plentiful and cheap then.
The 95 is at best a 45~46K psi action and while you have selected two calibers that I'm fond of, you will have to keep your loads within that pressure range. I'm thinking your 95 Mauser "cocks on closing" which drives me nuts, but if it's OK with you, that's fine.

Are you going to need sights, drill and tap for scope, trigger, stock, bolt bent? All I'm saying is, be sure the rifle you end up with is worth the money spent on it.
A local Gun Shop will not buy or take a converted 93 or 95 Mauser on a trade-in, and 98's get a pretty thorough inspection and fairly low offers.

I picked up a CZ 550 in 6.5X55 that handles 50K loads. I have to handload, but it edges out the .260 Rem by a hair.

You won't go wrong with the 7MM or the 6.5MM, but the 6.5 is a a bit more fun to play with.
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Old November 23, 2012, 07:47   #8
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Something else to consider, perhaps. Check Samco Global for Swede rifles before sinking a load on a 6.5 build. In years past I got a 29" model 96 there and may go back to the trough to get one of the scoped sniper rifles before they are gone forever...
Anyway you may find something there.
Nothing wrong whatever with the 7X57 mm either... it has knocked down plenty of deer and elk over the years around here.
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Mainer, I have everything I need to build this rifle including the scope mount drilling fixture. I bought this rifle for $25. The original barrel was cut down and I think it is crap. I don't think I'll have to put many $$$ into it, just my time. And since this as my hobby, if I weren't spending it on this project, I would be doing something else. I picked up a walnut stock for it somewhere and have been working on inletting it as it stands. But before I go any further, I think I need to swap out barrels which means I need to wait on finishing the inletting.

I have been looking at small ring replacement barrels and that is where the main expense will come from.

Yep, cocking on closing gets me, too. But my Model of 1917, P14 and all of my SMLE's cock on closing. So I'll live with that.

SGT, already have a Swede and love it to death. But it is such great shape and shoots better than I can, so no bubba on a working rifle. This mauser is junk right now and I want to see if I can bring it back to life.
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Mainer, I have everything I need to build this rifle including the scope mount drilling fixture. I bought this rifle for $25.

Yep, cocking on closing gets me, too. But my Model of 1917, P14 and all of my SMLE's cock on closing. So I'll live with that.
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:This mauser is junk right now and I want to see if I can bring it back to life."

Now, this I understand and a good reason why I don't keep old beater Mausers around, too much temptation.
Got an old beater 94 Winchester action getting comtemplated already.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
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I own and shoot both 6.5x55 and 7x57 rifles. I love shooting my Swedes, but I think the 7x57 is a bit better as a medium game cartridge. The punch carried by bullets at the heavier end of the 7mm spectrum cannot be matched in the 6.5.

OTOH, I think the Swede has a better selection of factory ammo. The Hornady Superformance 140g SST load, in particular, has impressed me in my rifles and it is compliant with the lower pressure spec required for the small ring mausers. No equivalent to it exists in 7x57.

I doubt very seriously that you will have to modify your bolt face for the Swede. Both of my Swedes are built on 98 pattern mausers originally chambered for cartridges using the .473 case head. Neither required any changes to the bolt face or extractor.

There are some nice barrels available for these rifles. I would recommend spending enough money to get a decent barrel. I have used A&B and Shilen barrels on my mauser builds. My first build used an A&B. It was OK, but not great. The rest of my mausers got Shilen barrels and they shoot very well. IMO, the Shilen barrels were worth every penny.

Since you are building on a small ring mauser, I have one last suggestion to make. I really think that you ought to consider chambering yours in .257 Roberts. A friend of mine is in the process of doing that with a 96 Carl Gustaf. It looks like it will make for a trim, sweet handling little rifle when he is finished.

Whatever you decide, bully for you. I am always glad to see a beautiful old mauser receive some TLC and a new lease on life. They are instruments that represent the fine craftsmanship of a bygone era and do not deserve the ignominious fate of rusting away in a dark, forgotten corner. I would easily pick up an old mauser and carry it with pride over a new manufacture budget, push feed rifle any day.
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I have a nice old Pre-WWI sporter in 8x57I with a sketchy bore, I am considering having it rebored to 9x57 as I already have another rifle in that caliber. It is something to consider.
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Frank DeHass, in his book Bolt Action Rifles, stated that he felt the 95 Mauser was strong enough for the .308 cartridge. I built one thirty years ago, and had no problems. I have also built four on 96 Swedes, and one is my 1000 yard rifle.
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I own and shoot both 6.5x55 and 7x57 rifles. I love shooting my Swedes, but I think the 7x57 is a bit better as a medium game cartridge. The punch carried by bullets at the heavier end of the 7mm spectrum cannot be matched in the 6.5.

OTOH, I think the Swede has a better selection of factory ammo. The Hornady Superformance 140g SST load, in particular, has impressed me in my rifles and it is compliant with the lower pressure spec required for the small ring mausers. No equivalent to it exists in 7x57.

I doubt very seriously that you will have to modify your bolt face for the Swede. Both of my Swedes are built on 98 pattern mausers originally chambered for cartridges using the .473 case head. Neither required any changes to the bolt face or extractor.

There are some nice barrels available for these rifles. I would recommend spending enough money to get a decent barrel. I have used A&B and Shilen barrels on my mauser builds. My first build used an A&B. It was OK, but not great. The rest of my mausers got Shilen barrels and they shoot very well. IMO, the Shilen barrels were worth every penny.

Since you are building on a small ring mauser, I have one last suggestion to make. I really think that you ought to consider chambering yours in .257 Roberts. A friend of mine is in the process of doing that with a 96 Carl Gustaf. It looks like it will make for a trim, sweet handling little rifle when he is finished.

Whatever you decide, bully for you. I am always glad to see a beautiful old mauser receive some TLC and a new lease on life. They are instruments that represent the fine craftsmanship of a bygone era and do not deserve the ignominious fate of rusting away in a dark, forgotten corner. I would easily pick up an old mauser and carry it with pride over a new manufacture budget, push feed rifle any day.
257 Roberts. Damn fine cartridge the "Bob" is.
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