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Old February 04, 2018, 21:59   #1
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Colt 1911 9mms

So a good friend has decided to sell a Colt comander 9mm that looks just like this.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...25+WILEY+CLAPP

He hasn't had it long but says it doesn't run 100% and the guy before him let it go cheap. Is there a problem with 1911s in 9mm? He has three different factory mags and says the gun isn't reliable with any of them.

Would you take a chance at $750 for the gun and mags?
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Old February 04, 2018, 23:20   #2
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i have one that i put together from parts and it work great with all different mags, Randell slide and barrel, after market frame, franken interior parts, some from Sarco. I like it
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Old February 04, 2018, 23:36   #3
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I have a BHP but was thinking a nice lightweight 1911 in 9mm would carry better. My concern is do they run good as I have never owned one. Carried a 1911 45 for many years and never had a problem but no experience at all with one in 9mm.
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Old February 05, 2018, 10:01   #4
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cant atest to the Colt in 9mm, but I havent heard anything suspect about them. Went out to the range Friday with Genethepoolcleaner, we took out a few Rhodies, my new Kimber 1911 .45 and his Springfield range officer 1911 in 9mm. Holy smokes, the smoothest 1911 I've shot. That thing was a great shooting pistol. Maybe she just needs to be gone through. Dependent of the price, I say go for it,

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Old February 05, 2018, 10:22   #5
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1 Reviews. Average Rating:  2 of 5 Stars!

Reviewed By: ANTHONY C on 11/28/2017
Rating:  2 of 5 Stars!

Fit and finish was excellent, however Colt shipped the firearm with 2 eight round magazines instead of the 9 round magazines that were advertised. I called Colt and they only shipped me 1 nine round magazine. Called Colt again and they shipped me the second 9 round magazine.
Took the gun to the range, and had numerous failures to feed using all 4 magazines, and different types of ammo. I had to leave the range early as the FTF were so numerous. I sold the gun 2 weeks after I purchased it. Colt%u2019s quality control is abysmal.


"Hartford, we have a problem."

It seems that your friend is not the only one to have a jam up with Colt's 9mm.
I do like a 1911 and that Wiley Clapp is a fine looking piece. I'm not much of a fan of the 9mm Luger cartridge however and a single stack 1911 in that chambering never appealed to me. Make it a .38 Super and I'd be on that like a Bear to honey.

My lightweight 9mm carry is a CZ 75 Compact with 14 round mags. That's a lot of ammo, but I'm getting older and there's more of them.

Heck of a price, but it may be a challenge to get it run 100%. I don't see why there would be anything preventing 9mm ammo to function reliably in the 1911 design, unless there's a mag problem. Worse case is that you end up selling it, again.

That's not my review btw.
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Old February 05, 2018, 11:21   #6
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My experience with Colt 9mm 1911's has been mixed!

I have owned many Colt 1911's and the only 9mm was a New Agent that I could never fully trust feeding hollowpoints but ball was fine.



Had a pair of 45 Commanders that were excellent.

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Have a friend with an early 9mm Commander and he has been fighting it for months with Colt and Wilson Combat mags along with all types of ammo.



Sold another friend (yep, I have 2 ) a Ruger 9mm Commander-size from an estate I'm dealing with and he has perfect luck with the 2 Ruger mags, but I've only seen him shoot ball so far.

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You could get two Star BM's and 12+ mags for the price of a Commander - but thats me! and a holster, and ....
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Old February 05, 2018, 13:22   #8
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Ya I am going to pass on the Colt, I have some really good 9mm that work.
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I have had two Colt 9mm Commanders. One alloy frame and one steel Combat Commander.

The LW Commander was highly inaccurate and wouldn't feed anything but FMJ. So I traded it off without a second thought. Replaced it with a S&W Model 39 no dash which I still own.

The Combat Commander was another inaccurate piece. Mounted it in my Ransom Rest and at 25 yards it gave 12 inch groups at best. Absolutely useless IMNSHO. But I decided to do something the this CC. Mailed it off to BarSto and had them hand fit one of their barrel/bushing units. Got it back and in the RR it was giving sub two inch groups with any load I tried. Had a gunsmith fit a MMC adjustable rear sight and a Wilson match grade trigger along with a trigger job.

The only 9mm pistol I own that will outshoot it is my Sig P210-6.

I bought several Mec-Gar magazines for the CC. They have the filler strip at the back of the magazine and work just fine. Also easy to take down for cleaning. Can't beat the Mec-Gar's for the money IMO.

And so it goes.


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Old February 06, 2018, 21:39   #10
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1911 fanboy here: .45 ACP, 10MM and .38 Super, love them all; 9MM is another matter. There are so many better 9's on the market, plus Colt always treated the 9MM as some bastard, red-haired child.

Gimme a Hi-Power, P-38, 92, Luger, even some Austrian tupperware in 9MM, I'll take them all over a 1911 in the same calibre. Seems I am not alone in this love of the Colt 1911 but general disdain for their 9MM.
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Old February 13, 2018, 00:41   #11
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I've never owned a 9mm 1911 but one of my Colt's is a LW Commander in .38 Super which seems to be pretty close in size to a 9mm I think?

It's always ran great since the day I got it with ball and JHP ammo.


Wonder what makes the 9 mil versions problematic?
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FWIW, got an email from SARCO the other day that they have a limited number of complete 1911 9mm parts kits in stock (less grip frame) if you want to build your own.
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Old February 13, 2018, 09:05   #13
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love the 1911 but too big for 9mm, you wind up carrying the weight to no advantage.
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1911's jam, period. I have seen more jams with them, all makes, than all other handguns combined. The hunting club I belonged to in AZ had a yearly shoot, most people shot 1911's in the pistol division, and it was almost predictable that they would jam at least once during the course of fire.

That's why I never owned one, but the Ruger 10mm is getting tempting.
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That's why I never owned one, but the Ruger 10mm is getting tempting.
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1911's jam, period. I have seen more jams with them, all makes, than all other handguns combined. The hunting club I belonged to in AZ had a yearly shoot, most people shot 1911's in the pistol division, and it was almost predictable that they would jam at least once during the course of fire.

That's why I never owned one, but the Ruger 10mm is getting tempting.
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