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Old January 29, 2017, 11:17   #1
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shoot or no shoot?

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big boy was nuts. baldie fended him off ok but should not have followed big boy into parking lot, looked like baldie was trying to get a car tag. must of been a 9mm, just sayyin
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Old January 29, 2017, 20:22   #2
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Has a flavor of Zimmerman. I walk into one of those stores in La and grab what I need quick and get out the door. Pepper spray would have been more fun to watch.
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Old January 30, 2017, 12:27   #3
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How about another good shoot...

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Old January 30, 2017, 18:18   #4
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Why does the guy in the dark blue tee shirt continually push the bald guy back,back,back? Why does he have a problem? Is he mental? Or just a pushy asshole? In any case,why does he not simply leave the store,or if he has a legitimate beef,wait peacefully outside for a police officer to show up? About the stupidest thing he could possibly do,is exactly what he does. Push,push,push,an armed guy into a place where there is no further retreat. What choice does the bald armed guy have? Get punched? Choked? Slashed with a broken bottle? Or disarmed,then shot with his own gun?
Walk away.But he didn't.
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Old January 30, 2017, 20:44   #5
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Clerk should have locked the door when perp stepped out and waited for police.

The shooter should have stayed in the store and avoided confrontation.

Looks like a shooting could have been avoided. If the perp lives I'd be worried what a jury might feel for the perp in a civil case. Kind of like some of the police shootings the last couple years. Justified but not really necessary.
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Old January 30, 2017, 21:58   #6
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baldie could've used krav maga moves to take out bigndumb. 💪🏾👊🏿🤛🤜

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Old January 31, 2017, 12:22   #7
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big boy was nuts. baldie fended him off ok but should not have followed big boy into parking lot, looked like baldie was trying to get a car tag. must of been a 9mm, just sayyin
Armed citizen was smart, put himself between his gun and the loon at the counter early on. Pushing on a guy with a gun in his hand is literally asking to get shot - anybody know if the guy lived or not?

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After backing into a corner of the store and still under attack, the man fired one round, striking Breland, and fired twice more when Breland kept coming at him, police said.
Source: http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...n_wont_be.html

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Old January 31, 2017, 12:45   #8
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Sometimes the good guy gets killed even when he shoots...

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Old January 31, 2017, 18:40   #9
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billy jack woulda handled it

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Old January 31, 2017, 19:11   #10
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That shooting happened in the Baton Rouge area of LA. The perp (bigger guy) died. The grand jury chose to not indict the shooter.
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Old February 16, 2017, 21:13   #11
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right on

if you have to shoot, get at least 3 good rds into his chest before he can drop, so that you're not being sued by a cripple at a later date. Those 3 rds can easily be on him in half a second, and a top hand could get 4 into him in the same time, cause the first rd is not part of the timed event. .16 second intervals are not that hard to get, at arms-length ranges.
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Old February 17, 2017, 10:32   #12
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WTF . He pulled his gun in a fist fight? In fact that wasn't even a fight it was a pushing match. The guy getting shot is an ass but I didn't see anything to justify the escalation of force or particularly the use of deadly force.
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Old February 18, 2017, 00:48   #13
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when i am packin i avoid conlicts if at all possible. no argueing, middle fingers, harsh looks, just get away. pepper spray comes in real handy.
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Old February 18, 2017, 12:34   #14
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The above. I think most feel the same way. Wierd when you think about it the first time.
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Old February 22, 2017, 18:01   #15
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By the time it got to the stage where he was pushing him back one handed it was time consider whether to reverse the pistol and try a hard, fast blow against the attacker. Yet I'd only try that myself with a D/A revolver personally.

It may have deterred the idiot from continuing to push baldy back and back. Then again there's no ideal way. He had to do what he had to do.
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By the time it got to the stage where he was pushing him back one handed it was time consider whether to reverse the pistol and try a hard, fast blow against the attacker. Yet I'd only try that myself with a D/A revolver personally.

It may have deterred the idiot from continuing to push baldy back and back. Then again there's no ideal way. He had to do what he had to do.
I would have scooted my ass to my car. Discretion is the better part of valor has been my motto for several years now.
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Old February 22, 2017, 19:45   #17
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The shooter was lucky he was acquitted if he was, I didn't read the specifics. Anytime U can avoid an escalating situation U should do so., unless U really like Lawyers, spending a lotta money., loosing work, possibly UR job as well & generally stressing for months on end....for what>? So U can say U shot some fukknut that had it coming?? not worth it.

Now if it clear cut, no options then fine, shoot, U would be in the clear from the get go., this scenario I watched was sloppy all the way around. The shooter had multiple opportunities to just leave, he didn't, he then went & followed the dude, got him pissed more & went back to the store & got himself backed into a corner. If this guy did get off from criminal charges he will probably get screwed in civil court for money.
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Old February 22, 2017, 20:35   #18
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Just can't get involved unless your life is a risk or lives of others you think are worth YOUR life if you get involved.

The fat dude was clearly psycho, but he didn't physically attack the store clerk or appear to be about to start attacking anyone.

I can understand Baldy being pissed and wanting 'to do something' about the fat dude's insane anti-social behavior.

Realistically, he wasn't out of line trying to get a plate number either.

But when fat dude charged him, he hadn't thought ahead to that possibility and I think that's where he failed, and ended up in a really bad spot.

On the one hand, he could have probably outran fatty and in short order the dude would have gave up. But if something other than THAT happened and he had to shoot - there would be no cameras and no witnesses for his self-defense.

Going into the store trapped him and almost assured an attack against him, but he had witnesses and cameras on his side and for his defense.
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Old February 22, 2017, 21:34   #19
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I'm in that part of the world often. Go in get and out with your diet coke, beer, snickers bars , and smokes. Be polite and have a plan.
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