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Old November 14, 2017, 12:44   #1
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Bullet suggestions for 7mm Rem Mag?

Hey all, I've got a friend who is finally getting close to using up all of the 7mm Rem Mag ammo their dad loaded up and handed down with the rifle. I've been asked to refill the empties and gladly accepted.

The original recipe was for 175 grain PSP (I think those are corelokts)
I've got some 162 gr Hornady ELD-x

I'm looking for other bullet suggestions with the goal being elk hunting.

For what it's worth, shooters getting a little recoil sensitive and hunts at short ranges <200yards, and often <50, so I may try to reduce the load a little.
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Old November 14, 2017, 12:52   #2
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Cannot go wrong with Nosler partition or Barnes. You need a stout bullet for the 7 mag.

I personally only use 2, the 162 Amax under 63 grains of RL22 for long range shooting, or the 160 gr Winchester Failsafes for hunting. I bought enough Failsafes to last me a lifetime when Walmart was clearing them out a long time ago, and they shoot like match ammo.
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Old November 14, 2017, 16:23   #3
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I use 175 grain Hornadys SP. Knocks them Elks flat on their butts.
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Old November 14, 2017, 17:40   #4
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Grabbed some 160 and 175 partitions today. Gonna have to invest in a lead sled for the load development I think
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Old November 14, 2017, 18:24   #5
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I Have a Bunch of 7Mag Brass and a bunch of barns bullets -Im Open to Trading for 06-303-6.5 swede ? Or Offers..Pm Me if you like !
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Old November 14, 2017, 22:26   #6
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Cannot go wrong with Nosler partition or Barnes. You need a stout bullet for the 7 mag.
This is good advice ^^^^

I use Barnes bullets in my 338 for elk. The only other bullet I would recommend is Trophy bonded beer claw (especially if you can find the originals). I work with a guy who took a moose about 5 years ago with a 7mm mag with a 175 gr Barnes TSX bullet. He said it when straight down with one shot.
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Old November 14, 2017, 23:07   #7
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Grabbed some 160 and 175 partitions today. Gonna have to invest in a lead sled for the load development I think
Good choice.
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Old November 15, 2017, 00:39   #8
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https://americanreloading.com/en/138-7mm-284

Here's a selection of affordable soft points probably corelockts.
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Old November 15, 2017, 18:24   #9
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I am a 7mm whore. Have 7mm-08, factory and custom 7mm Rem Mags, 7mm Practicals, a 7mm RUM and some others. It's my favorite long range kill medium to large things caliber. Swift A Frame is one of the most proven projectiles out there. Any modern bonded bullet will do the job you need but have been liking the Barnes LRX Long Range Hunting projectiles along with TTSX and other copper solids. If they have a match chamber/build look at the Berger LD hunting bullets. Can split hairs but pick a reputible bullet from anyone, pour it full of powder and if shoots under MOA it's ready to go.
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Old November 16, 2017, 15:42   #10
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I am a 7mm whore... Can split hairs but pick a reputible bullet from anyone, pour it full of powder and if shoots under MOA it's ready to go.
Huey, you might be a whore for just about anything firearms or ammo related, but the last part of that sure rings true...

Working on brass prep, just need to choose a powder option, but it looks like I should have that covered.

Thanks all, I'll keep you posted of the results.
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Old November 17, 2017, 07:52   #11
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Went to reloading room and pulled my 7mm folder. One of the most consistent powders from rifle to rifle is H4831sc. The short kernal shoots better than the standard and assume it's due to less shearing of kernels in the powder measure. If weigh charges still shoots a bit better according to notes so shearing may not be a huge issue. May just burn more consistent due to smaller kernals. Won't post my load data but will say every rifle's best groups with H4831sc is at top or above posted maximum load data. If see no pressure signs will push belted magnums and find 7mm Mag seems to have its best node with H4831sc at scary numbers if go by the book but have all my fingers and both eyes still.
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Old November 19, 2017, 10:03   #12
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yanno, if the shooter is recoil sensitive the 7mm mag is not a good match.
probably can't hit jack - 7mm-08 probably better. 300 savage a good choice too. have them shoot at a paper plate at 100 yds from standing - ifn they can't put all rounds on the plate then time to reduce recoil.
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I agree with that last statement. It's the sentimental part about shooting "dad's rifle". I'll work on it, and in the mean time get to load up some 7mm.

Thanks Randy762ak! For the offer on some brass and tips.
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I have plenty of 7mm Mag brass can spare as well. A lot of once fired and unfired new that necks were a tad thin for proper reaming and/or turning. Be plenty good for Dad's Rifle. Hodgdon has reduced recoil loads for a variety of cartridges using H4895. Don't try to duplicate these loads using IMR 4895. Below is a quote from ChuckHawks.com.

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7mm Remington Magnum -*The Youth Load data shows a 120 grain Hornady Spire Point with 41.2 grains of H4895 at a 2609 feet per second muzzle velocity. That results in a 251 yard MPBR with 1062 FP energy at the MPBR. The 100 yard elevation is +2.8 and the 200 yard elevation is +0.9. The recoil is 10.6 foot pounds at 9.0 feet per second. The Hodgdon website shows a maximum load for 120 grain bullets in the 3200 feet per second range which results in 17.0 foot pounds of recoil at 11.7 feet per second.
If you do a little Google searching there are a myriad of reduced recoil loads for 7mm Rem Mag that will slay deer out to 200 yards and kick like a 7mm-08. Most reduced recoil loads use H4895 or Trail Boss. If try Trail Boss remember that it does have a tendency to Kaboom with compressed loads but otherwise almost impossible to blow up any rifle using it.

I didn't know this existed but Hodgdon has a reduced recoil load data resource for both powders online. Found it a few minutes ago.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/relo...w-recoil-loads

Darn nice of them and if your loading for someone that is most likely not going to be taking 400 yard shots and not willing to buy one of the many managed recoil rounds marketed by Remington and others in traditionally hard hitting cartridges or for youth then may want to load them up some loads that might not rock their world. Seen people have a horrible flinch by round three with 7mm Mag and others. If scared to pull the trigger on Dad's Rifle they will be likely to even miss a 75 to 100 yard shot.

Learned early that when hunting in woods and thick cover a big magnum is usually too much gun and why I like the 35 Remington lever gun so much for Northeast Georgia deer hunting. 90% of shots in the woods are under 100 yards and many up very close if stalking and jump a deer that suprised you both and need a fast shot and possible fast follow up. Have a 35 Rem with red dot now just for stalking. Have a nice 180 grain load that doesn't destroy meat and drops deer DRT most times. Never forget first time shot a deer under 100 yards with a big magnum under 100 yards. Bullet entered left front shoulder and came out right rear hind quarter. Removed left front leg, right rear leg and ruined majority of the meat. Actually ruined both hind quarters as basically removed entire @$$ end of deer. All entrails were turned to goo. Could not tell heart from liver it was just carcass soup.

Now my big magnums are relegated for the day Georgia is repopulate with elk and grizzly bear except for my big 7mm's are used in South Georgia bean fields where might have a 400 to 800 yard shot on a nice buck. Longest shots around here are hilltop to hilltop in power line cuts and a few fields. My farm has maximum of 450 yard shot in main pasture but knowing where deer usually come out to feed usually have a 75 to 125 yard shot. Take a 308 and 7mm Rem Mag turn bolt if hunt the pasture, sit in hayloft of barn and unless one wanders out at far end or pasture (very rare) most shots are taken with the M10 Winchester in 308. Used to carry full power and reduced recoil rounds for the 7mm but with finicky buck on edge of treeline don't have time to select round, close chamber then consult range card for round using.

Digression off but would suggest you discuss terrain well with rifles user, consider their marksmanship and experience shooting belted magnums and if hunting in woods with a limited range load for their expected maximum range to mitigate recoil as much as possible when they take rifle to range for sight in and practice. Can let them practice with a LeadSled or sandbag between butt of rifle and shoulder but first round from a tree if full house loads might ruin their follow up if needed.
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