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Old November 14, 2017, 10:54   #1
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New Production Izzy LB hand gaurds anyone?....

Emailed Ironwood designs regarding their wood hand guards.

I asked if they had any Izzy Light Barrel hand guards.

Matt said, that if there was a demand for them, and he had a sample, he would invest in the R&D.

Anyone, besides this newb, interested in new production, Izzy, light barrel hand guards.

Please and thank you.
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Old November 14, 2017, 11:35   #2
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Without the metal, I think the market would be very small.

Is there a supply of metal or metal with crappy wood?
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Old November 14, 2017, 11:46   #3
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Market is probably very small ....

You'll have to entice Flypaper to make the early T-48 version for the LB, if you want new made.
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Old November 14, 2017, 15:26   #4
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Wood hand Guards

As to the Isreali, T-48 and Vennie all wood light barrel hand guards, FN used better quality wood than what is out there today. The fact that even trying to find the original wood materials used back then would most likely be very COSTLY. FN found out back in the Late 1950's with wood overall it was a dead issue and with the advent of the Phonolic/fiberglass hand guards of the early 1960'S and until the end of Fal production in 1988.

Personally, I don't like what Ironwood makes at all. It's not really close to the original form. We've had Rich Collins of Blue Monster design make great wood Butt stocks and pistol grips, But Didn't make any wood hand guards at all. We currently have Dean/Flypaper who makes Great Butt stocks, Pistol grips and Wood Hand Guards.

Now if you can find the Metal for the Israeli Light barrel hand guards which Sarco used to have and if you call them, Ask for Spencer as he is their current Fal Parts specialist.
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Old November 14, 2017, 16:15   #5
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Personally, I don't like what Ironwood makes at all. It's not really close to the original form. We've had Rich Collins of Blue Monster design make great wood Butt stocks and pistol grips,
Surely you jest! You can tell Blue Monster wood from 20' away because it is NOT the same profile as the original. It screams out "WRONG!"

That it is beautifully finished doesn't make up for obviously incorrect dimensions.

IWD is spot on, and consistent, with the exception of lacking the metal inserts and the threaded inserts are different.
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Old November 14, 2017, 16:34   #6
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Are you sure he isn’t talking about just the replacement wood panels?
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Old November 14, 2017, 17:12   #7
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Are you sure he isn’t talking about just the replacement wood panels?

I assumed that's what he meant, but as long as there is no metal, he's restricted to the very small market of replacement panels. If someone comes across a big stash of metal, with crappy or non-existent panels, the market would expand. I'm just not seeing the market to justify the set-up. And the corrugated metal insert is going to be a problem. Without it, they are much more fragile.

I see maybe 1 standard barrel handguard set a year. Heavy barrel - I've got maybe 40 brand new sets in inventory right now.
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Old November 14, 2017, 18:58   #8
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Personally, I don't like what Ironwood makes at all. It's not really close to the original form. We've had Rich Collins of Blue Monster design make great wood Butt stocks and pistol grips, But Didn't make any wood hand guards at all. We currently have Dean/Flypaper who makes Great Butt stocks, Pistol grips and Wood Hand Guards.
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Surely you jest! You can tell Blue Monster wood from 20' away because it is NOT the same profile as the original. It screams out "WRONG!"

That it is beautifully finished doesn't make up for obviously incorrect dimensions.

IWD is spot on, and consistent, with the exception of lacking the metal inserts and the threaded inserts are different.

I going to mostly agree with Mark, here. Not that that matters to anyone.
While IWD is closer to original profiles than BM, it still isn't spot on IMHO.

Flypaper made stuff is as close as I've seen in the aftermarket, hands down.


About the original topic, also agree with the above, practically zero market. Some 15 years ago I needed some replacement LB wood panels and screws. Bought them from an online vendor, haven't needed any since, haven't seen anyone ask.
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