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I never ordered anything from Johnny 75 38.86%
I ordered, and received product timely 56 29.02%
I ordered and received product unacceptably late 9 4.66%
I ordered, and haven't received shit 38 19.69%
I just like stirring shit 12 6.22%
I made multiple orders - one or more arrived late or never arrived 3 1.55%
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Old October 17, 2017, 13:56   #651
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Maybe an oxy addiction or something?
That would make sense why he has been behaving squirrelly for at least the last 3 years or so. Show up late or not at all for his own shoots, not delivering work on time, not posting results for his matches, and now this.
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Old October 18, 2017, 01:04   #652
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Has anyone had any luck with ordering through DSA? Does DSA actually have these in stock and on hand? If they drop ship them....Im afraid Ill never get them at this point.
Don't even wanna deal with DSA... Seems like all the US FAL manufacturers have all just gone to shit? what's going on here..?
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Old October 19, 2017, 04:41   #653
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I Hope Johnny shows HERE and tells all what is going on with him.

Johnny always treated me right and the Man deserves to stand up for himself.
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Old October 19, 2017, 20:13   #654
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That would make sense why he has been behaving squirrelly for at least the last 3 years or so. Show up late or not at all for his own shoots, not delivering work on time, not posting results for his matches, and now this.
Ouch....now that's bad.
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Old November 05, 2017, 14:17   #655
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Any word on anybody receiving their paid for product ?
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Old November 05, 2017, 16:48   #656
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Johnny always treated me right and the Man deserves to stand up for himself.
Best regards to All in this thread.
The man no longer deserves anything other than maybe a tar-and-feathering and a ride out of town on a rail. He has had all the chance in the world to speak up - look how long this thread has been going on - yet nothing. Not that it would mean much since actions speak much louder than words. I mean, what could he possibly say that would justify how he has fukked over so many people for so long ? Any words he has spoken to individuals seem to be consistent lies anyway.

The only things I wish are 1) that everybody would get their orders or otherwise be made right, and 2) Moses would magically disappear from the world of FALs. Number 2 seems to be well underway.
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Old November 05, 2017, 20:44   #657
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Has anyone ordered from DSA (or any other retailer) and received mags?

Last I looked DSA had them listed as "in stock".

I'm curious if they actually have them on hand or if they're being drop shipped.
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Old November 05, 2017, 21:21   #658
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I had been watching DSA, and they had not shown them as in stock until July 28th. I ordered some that weekend, and they shipped the 31st. I just looked, and all but the FDE FAL mags now show as out of stock. I would trust that to be accurate.
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Old November 08, 2017, 02:49   #659
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The man no longer deserves anything other than maybe a tar-and-feathering and a ride out of town on a rail. He has had all the chance in the world to speak up - look how long this thread has been going on - yet nothing. Not that it would mean much since actions speak much louder than words. I mean, what could he possibly say that would justify how he has fukked over so many people for so long ? Any words he has spoken to individuals seem to be consistent lies anyway.

The only things I wish are 1) that everybody would get their orders or otherwise be made right, and 2) Moses would magically disappear from the world of FALs. Number 2 seems to be well underway.
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Old November 08, 2017, 14:02   #660
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Well wish in one hand and shit in the other, you don't get to make the decisions, that's God's job.
Gee, I am really sorry that wishing for something good is such a travesty.

Besides, God doesn't seem to be helping anybody right now, maybe a few good wishes might be like prayers, mmmmm ??
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Old January 02, 2018, 23:43   #661
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I really wish I had found this site about three months ago. I would have saved money and headache.

Johnny scammed me too. Three months of texts and promises and now nothing. Last "promise" on Nov 29th and now silence.

I first found his mags at DSArms and they work very well. So when I saw his "deal" on-line, I fell for the scam. Thankfully the website is gone so hopefully I will be the last to get ripped off.
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Old January 03, 2018, 00:18   #662
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I really wish I had found this site about three months ago. I would have saved money and headache.

Johnny scammed me too. Three months of texts and promises and now nothing. Last "promise" on Nov 29th and now silence.

I first found his mags at DSArms and they work very well. So when I saw his "deal" on-line, I fell for the scam. Thankfully the website is gone so hopefully I will be the last to get ripped off.
So Nov. of this year then I say Moses needs too go too prison,he is nothing but a career criminal at this point since this is going on 2 years of STEALING from folks.
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So Nov. of this year then I say Moses needs too go too prison,he is nothing but a career criminal at this point since this is going on 2 years of STEALING from folks.
And now today, DSArms sends me an e-mail stating the mags I ordered from Johnny are now in stock. So he can ship to DSArms but not the people who paid him months ago.
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And now today, DSArms sends me an e-mail stating the mags I ordered from Johnny are now in stock. So he can ship to DSArms but not the people who paid him months ago.
Like I said at this point Moses is a criminal,Moses is done with this site,as he knows nobody can be fooled by his hundreds of excuses anymore.
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Old January 05, 2018, 17:16   #665
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I ordered two 20 round Moses mags from the Moses website last year on January 2, 2017. As of todays date (1/05/2018) I've yet to receive them. I've been in contact with someone (I assume Johnny Moses) through text, phone number (704) 750-9661. I've received replies from this person promising to send me my mags that I paid for on the dates of 7/6, 7/8, and 11/21/2017. Whatever the reason this company isn't sending mine and everyone else's mags that I and we have paid for is just beyond retarded. As far as my humble opinion goes, there's no excuse for this. But blah, blah, rant, rant, life and the corporation goes on. I'll never purchase another product from Moses Mag until I get my product that I paid for. Hope stealing that lousy $63.98 from me is worth F##king your reputation jackass!
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Old January 06, 2018, 21:00   #666
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I ordered two 20 round Moses mags from the Moses website last year on January 2, 2017. As of todays date (1/05/2018) I've yet to receive them. I've been in contact with someone (I assume Johnny Moses) through text, phone number (704) 750-9661. I've received replies from this person promising to send me my mags that I paid for on the dates of 7/6, 7/8, and 11/21/2017. Whatever the reason this company isn't sending mine and everyone else's mags that I and we have paid for is just beyond retarded. As far as my humble opinion goes, there's no excuse for this. But blah, blah, rant, rant, life and the corporation goes on. I'll never purchase another product from Moses Mag until I get my product that I paid for. Hope stealing that lousy $63.98 from me is worth F##king your reputation jackass!
Moses could careless,he made off with thousands of dollars of stolen money from customers,I really believe he has sold the trademark and all rights too his magazine company too a Firearm manufacture,so at this point its over with.
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I know where he lives ... anyone that wishes to take a ride up I-85 to SC and a long trip thru the woods can meet him FTF and get a refund ...

he screwed me early on in my dealings here on the files ... I said never again ... all the signs were there for those willing to see the truth ...

sad ......................... !
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The whole thing makes no sense what so ever. Why go to all the trouble to design, develop, manufacture and advertise a successful rifle magazine and then defraud customers out of what, five or ten thousand dollars? All while delivering some and then not delivering others? Has he defrauded any one besides FALFILES members? Apparently he came thru to DSA and to a few individuals on FALFILES who were some of the first to order them.

I googled "John Moses" and by far the largest number of hits were for John Moses Browning. I looked at obituaries too for South Carolina without success. Could he be using an alias? Surely this was not some kind of payback to people on the FILES in general and certain individuals specifically? Then there are the promises to deliver on orders. It appears he has been stringing some people along for unexplained diabolical reasons. That's a hell of a lot of trouble to go thru for some kind of payback in my opinion.
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At last check Moses was still alive but not well. His business dealings, his home life and health fell apart simultaneously. While I am still hoping that he will recover and make good on all of those broken promises, I realistically don't see it happening. And that is bad, because he made an awesome product that worked.
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I know where he lives ... anyone that wishes to take a ride up I-85 to SC and a long trip thru the woods can meet him FTF and get a refund ...

he screwed me early on in my dealings here on the files ... I said never again ... all the signs were there for those willing to see the truth ...

sad ......................... !
As I said before, if I would have found this site before I ordered, I would have saved myself a lot of heartache.

I would love to knock on his door and demand either my money or the magazines. 2300 miles is a bit of a drive.

Sad that the State of South Carolina will not even let me file charges on this clown.
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Like I said at this point Moses is a criminal,Moses is done with this site,as he knows nobody can be fooled by his hundreds of excuses anymore.
It seems to happen to alot of them. They start off good and somewhere along the way they have a meltdown. Remember Gunthsmith Tony?
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It seems to happen to alot of them. They start off good and somewhere along the way they have a meltdown. Remember Gunthsmith Tony?
To be successful in business requires abilities many do not have. Some may be able to manufacture a good product, but if you are incompetent at accounting, marketing, customer service, dependability, shipping, etc. you'll fail. Also business requires complete self discipline, which I find few human beings have to a level they can successfully run a business with.
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It seems to happen to alot of them. They start off good and somewhere along the way they have a meltdown. Remember Gunthsmith Tony?
I remember hearing Moses bitching about Tony, at a FAL match.
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It seems to happen to alot of them. They start off good and somewhere along the way they have a meltdown. Remember Gunthsmith Tony?

And George Gouger and several others over the years. I'm still pissed off at Gouger though.
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Piece of shit lying thief Gouger and his "museum quality FAL's"
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Rata!!

Same here ordered 3 months before presidential election,still waiting on them.
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Funny I got an email from DSA in the last week stating they just got a shipment of Moses Mags and they are in stock.
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They are showing in stock at dsa. Or at least they were. I don't ever plan on buying any more of them though out of principle.

In fairness, I got my 3 out of the first batch, but after seeing this thread, anyone would be stupid to send money to him.
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Wow! I've been out of the game for a few years. Sad to see this upon my return. I ordered 6 of his mags when he first launched them. Received them without issue. Got sick myself shortly afterward and spent a couple years in and out of chemo & rad treatment. I understand life changing medical issues and the like but ducking the customers whom paid up front in good faith is pretty hard to excuse.

I lost much of my finances during the illness given the medical expenses and all the associated costs of treatment that insurance policies don't help with. Took me two years to get square with the world money wise but I did do it.

I like the Moses mags a lot but I believe the 6 I have will be it for me. If John somehow shows up and gets square with folks then further I'd see it differently. The ball of honor is in his court.
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Wow! I've been out of the game for a few years. Sad to see this upon my return. I ordered 6 of his mags when he first launched them. Received them without issue. Got sick myself shortly afterward and spent a couple years in and out of chemo & rad treatment. I understand life changing medical issues and the like but ducking the customers whom paid up front in good faith is pretty hard to excuse.

I lost much of my finances during the illness given the medical expenses and all the associated costs of treatment that insurance policies don't help with. Took me two years to get square with the world money wise but I did do it.
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Went down similar road but what made it worse was had 11 and 13 year full time experienced employees that everytime I went to doctor or just couldn't ride herd basically sat down for mjority of two years I was fighting broken back, neck and cancer. Luckily had two part timers that would keep them busy and motivated the two to three days per week. God was trying to tell the docs had a bigger issue so kept getting whacked in motor vehicle and tower accidents till a sharp radiologist saw the brain tumor on the edge of a scan following broken neck. Wife usually stepped in and cracked the whip if I was travelling but with me hurt and sick was taking care of me. About the time I got better she went down and I had to start caring for her.

Business had to be readjusted as we went along but every job taken was completed somehow. All the deductibles, copays and treatments insurance didn't cover got paid though took four years. I understand hurt, sick, lazy employees but as a business owner without production no money comes in. This is my guess what happened with Moses. Was sick, had family issues but nothing put back to pull from during the bad times. Thus sold product he couldn't deliver to cover his expenses. Odds are DSA got theirs because had lawyers and likely the ones possibly buying his operation. Unfortunately I paid the two lazy full timers out of my savings for two years before figured them out and fired them. Then I had to crawl out of bed, get a walker and go to work with my part timers along with letting some accounts go so could keep up with ones we kept.

People assume a small business can run without the owner. For those of you that are small operations that make decent money but do majority of bids, work, billing, accounting and overall management yourself remember after age 40 to 50 all bets are off on health. Are you positioned to miss a year or more of work? Most small business owners can't file disability on the company we own, most can't get unemployment or other aid. The facility bills keep coming and with no production you have no income. Even with building, equipment and trucks all paid, liability, building and workman's comp combined with vehicle and health insurance runs over $7,000 per month. Before salaries, materials and a paycheck for myself there is over $10,000 per month needed to keep the lights on along with phone and other utilities.

Luckily have a myriad of capabilities and skills so was able to follow different trends as appear such as jumping into the big 3G to 4G cellular switch over which led to backup power. Now ballistic barriers are becoming a fast growing additional income stream as churches are taking steps to protect congregations, especially the kids. We adapt and try hard as possible but without a lot of help from God Himself when a serious health issue or several line up back to back a small business can go down in a matter of months. Add up monthly expenses and your total savings, if can't pay bills for six to twelve months won't survive first real age or accident related issue.

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I can't help but drop in about once a month to the thread that never dies. Am interested to see if it makes 1,000 posts before an equitable outcome is reached and finally dies a natural death. Till its known for sure Moses Mags company has been sold to someone that can keep sales, production, quality and delivery consistent or maybe Moses picks himself up, satisfies past orders and is able to deliver new orders in timely manner sooner rather than later. If he does, some shred of integrity could be regained and folks would likely buy from him again. If he sells or has sold the equipment and license, satisfying paid orders should be part of his agreement with new owners as would be in their best interest as well.

Meanwhile this thread should occasionally be poked often enough to stay fresh so until product is delivered promptly other potential victims might find it and be cautioned not to throw money to the wind. If it turned around would place an order myself as decent milspec mags are getting harder to find and more expensive fairly quickly and want to keep wear down on my original mags. Seems like this guy should have developed enough friends in the FAL community he could get a couple dozen friends to show up and help him complete overdue orders. Can't count the days of labor my friends have gracefully shown up and donated to the cause when was flat on my back and unable to work or when still on meds that didn't allow me to legally drive and ferry me from job site to job site. Seems to me most decent folks would have enough friends to help assemble magazines and box for shipment while in a bind.
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