BM59 - build vs. buy

SWOHFAL · February 05, 2019, 19:04

Any reason to build one, other than the challenge of it, rather than buy a James River Armory model?

I see the name Tim Shuffin mentioned - I suppose he can build one better than the JRA for me?

rbgonoles · February 05, 2019, 19:35

Tim is an artist. I have three built by him. Get a kit, barrel and Garand receiver. You won’t regret it. For the barrel I had him convert 308 Garand barrels.

AliYahu · February 05, 2019, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWOHFAL

Any reason to build one, other than the challenge of it, rather than buy a James River Armory model?

I see the name Tim Shuffin mentioned - I suppose he can build one better than the JRA for me?

Shuff only uses GI receivers, and the quality is at least as good as Beretta's.

Eli

Eyeguy · February 05, 2019, 19:50

Tim will build on a Beretta or Breda receiver if you can still find one. He built mine on a Beretta from the Danish contract. Not correct but beautiful and accurate.

Some think modifying an M1 receiver is a sacrilege. YMMV

Invictus77 · February 05, 2019, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbgonoles

I have three built by him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyeguy

He built mine on a Beretta

I never had any BM59 fetish until these two yay-hoo's above started the "here shoot this one" on me every time we shoot together.

Damn nice sticks and these two know their stuff on them. Listen closely, their advice on this topic is rock solid.

rbgonoles · February 05, 2019, 20:59

Art. At least in my book.

**Texgunner** · February 06, 2019, 00:11

Oh man, just what I need now that I'm retired...something else to Jones for.

Wow, those rifles look good gentlemen, all of them!

Pappy · February 07, 2019, 00:27

Picked this one up from Shuff and I love it, I would highly recommend him to do one for you.

SWOHFAL · February 07, 2019, 02:50

So, is every BM59 posted in this thread an ITAL variant?

rbgonoles · February 07, 2019, 07:29

Yes. Except my one Italian Para

AliYahu · February 07, 2019, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWOHFAL

So, is every BM59 posted in this thread an ITAL variant?

As answered, yes with the exception of the Para. What Sarco is calling 'Argentine' are from Argentina, and were modified M1 Garands that came on ships given or sold to Argentina under aid programs. When Argentina standardized on 7.62 NATO, eliminating numerous calibers, and re-calibered nearly everything in inventory, they sent the Garands to Italy. I've never confirmed it, but I believe they went with the 'BM59E' simply so the guns would fit the existing racks!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BerettaBM59/files/ has PDFs, but you need to join facebook and the group.

Eli

rbgonoles · February 07, 2019, 08:51

Anyone interested in a BM59 (or cold war battle rifles) should pursue a build. Its really hard to convey just how great these rifles feel and shoot. They are very soft shooting, even with a para/folding stock. Softer than my FALs, M1As, and PTR91. Magazines are top notch and rock right in. Overall its a sweet design.

Frenchkat · February 07, 2019, 11:11

Have to warn you, while the Para and Alpini look cool, they suck to shoot.

K.O.A.M. · February 08, 2019, 15:11

I have one that was built for me by Tim Shufflin of Shuff's parkerizing. I provided him a Beretta Garand receiver (by way of the Danish Navy) and an E model kit that I assume to be Argentine. I also had the receiver engraved by a place in Sarasota that has a FFL and replicates the markings made by the Italians when they converted them. Came out so well that I'm looking for a new E model stock-because the rest of the rifle looks pristine. Couldn't be happier. Tim also delivered before the promised due date.

rbgonoles · February 08, 2019, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchkat

Have to warn you, while the Para and Alpini look cool, they suck to shoot.

Come shoot mine. She'll change your mind.

AliYahu · February 08, 2019, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by K.O.A.M.

... I'm looking for a new E model stock-because the rest of the rifle looks pristine. Couldn't be happier. Tim also delivered before the promised due date.

Sean, a/k/a The Stock Emporium, can provide! I've shared this pic here befor4e, it's my SL/E wearing a birch stock I bought in the marketplace here and had Sean modify, works great and no walking BHO pin!

Eli

Frenchkat · February 08, 2019, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbgonoles

Come shoot mine. She'll change your mind.

What’s so special about yours that’s different from mine or any other folding stock 59?

Jarhead504 · February 08, 2019, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchkat

Have to warn you, while the Para and Alpini look cool, they suck to shoot.

Anything that has a wire stock smacks you in the face. You have to wrap them with something.

The BM-59 was Mel Tappan's favorite gas-operated, box fed .308 back when he wrote his books on the subject (early '80's). I've seen some nice ones around here at gun shows but I was feining for M-14 and FAL clones at the time.

Jarhead

Orlando8 · February 09, 2019, 18:03

Get up on your two feet and shoot the wire stock isn't bad. Its when you shoot them off the bench.
Now I couldn't imagine shooting one full auto no matter what postion

radionicist · February 10, 2019, 10:51

Build! Tim Shufflin crafted both of these for me

AliYahu · February 10, 2019, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by radionicist

Build! Tim Shufflin crafted both of these for me

Which do you like to shoot more? I have an E already, was contemplating building an ITAL.

Eli

Orlando8 · February 10, 2019, 13:08

Tim built this one for me before they became popular and parts easy to find and cheap ,. Took me awhile to get all the parts for the build. There wasn't any parts kits then

Picture was taken of rifle before I installed the Para comp

**Near Sighted Sniper** · February 10, 2019, 13:53

Where can a guy find kits??

Orlando8 · February 10, 2019, 14:11

Google BM59 kits

kurbelgehause · February 10, 2019, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Near Sighted Sniper

Where can a guy find kits??

https://whatacountry.com/italian-bm5...parts-kit.aspx

**Texgunner** · February 10, 2019, 14:22

What's up with all the kits missing the same 5 small parts? Are those difficult to find now?

AZ Deuce · February 10, 2019, 16:01

Texgunner, I haven't been on their site in a while, but Standard Parts had the missing 3-5 parts ( I thought it was 3?)

**Texgunner** · February 10, 2019, 16:21

Thanks for the info! Hey, can you post a link? I'll check them out. This one is missing five parts but that may be the exception, I only saw these.

https://www.centerfiresystems.com/p-...ord=kit-bm59ii

It looks like four are missing from these?

https://whatacountry.com/italian-bm5...parts-kit.aspx

They are just very interesting rifles to me and I would sure love to have too!

AliYahu · February 10, 2019, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurbelgehause

https://whatacountry.com/italian-bm5...parts-kit.aspx

NO!!! MISSING PARTS!!!

The only place I'm aware of selling 'complete' ITAL kits - less receiver and barrel - is Numrich Gun Parts: https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1572160

The 'small parts' missing from most kits are not currently available from any vendor I'm aware of!

Eli

**Near Sighted Sniper** · February 10, 2019, 20:32

Thanks Aliyahu, gonna order 1 now. I’ve delayed buying 1 of these kits for far too long

rbgonoles · February 10, 2019, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Near Sighted Sniper

Thanks Aliyahu, gonna order 1 now. I’ve delayed buying 1 of these kits for far too long

Get a nice Garand receiver. As for barrels, when I did my kits there wasn’t any Ital barrels available. I got a .308 Garand barrel (e.g. Criterion) and sent it all to Shuff.

BM59 · February 10, 2019, 22:14

Build. Both top and bottom ones were built by Tim on Garand receivers. The bottom one is a BM-14, his creation which takes M-14 mags.

The one in the middle is a JRA, the small run they made in the beginning with modified Garand receivers. I would not buy their cast receiver.

**Near Sighted Sniper** · February 10, 2019, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbgonoles

Get a nice Garand receiver. As for barrels, when I did my kits there wasn’t any Ital barrels available. I got a .308 Garand barrel (e.g. Criterion) and sent it all to Shuff.

Thanks Ryan, hows that M1 I sold you doing?
Your collection continues to impress me!!!

rbgonoles · February 10, 2019, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Near Sighted Sniper

Thanks Ryan, hows that M1 I sold you doing?
Your collection continues to impress me!!!

Mick, its my favorite Garand and a gift for my youngest son.

**Near Sighted Sniper** · February 10, 2019, 23:58

That’s Awesome

**andresere** · February 11, 2019, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by BM59

The one in the middle is a JRA, the small run they made in the beginning with modified Garand receivers. I would not buy their cast receiver.

I was thinking of buying one. Why would you not buy one from them?

AliYahu · February 11, 2019, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresere

I was thinking of buying one. Why would you not buy one from them?

R_Lloyd · February 12, 2019, 01:35

FWIW it has done well for me, I originally had a recalled serial # and James River made it right. I have nothing bad to say about them.

Orlando8 · February 12, 2019, 05:45

Except these rifles never should have been out in the publics hands. Have someone who knows BM59's do your build, Shuffs

**andresere** · February 12, 2019, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Lloyd

FWIW it has done well for me, I originally had a recalled serial # and James River made it right. I have nothing bad to say about them.

When did you purchase yours, if you don't mind me asking.

R_Lloyd · February 12, 2019, 14:10

I had actually bought a receiver from them when they had the preproduction sale. I was putting the parts kit together when I received notification. I sent them back my barreled receiver and parts kit, they sent me back an assembled rifle. So the receiver I had was a very early one. While I would agree Shuffs is an excellent way to go, I wanted to point out that the JRA rifle isn’t as bad as some would have you believe.

**andresere** · February 12, 2019, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Lloyd

I had actually bought a receiver from them when they had the preproduction sale. I was putting the parts kit together when I received notification. I sent them back my barreled receiver and parts kit, they sent me back an assembled rifle. So the receiver I had was a very early one. While I would agree Shuffs is an excellent way to go, I wanted to point out that the JRA rifle isn’t as bad as some would have you believe.

I've been watching the cast vs forged dumpster fire on this site for a very long time. One person says something and 50 will follow. I appreciate the up to date information. Thanks again.

AliYahu · February 12, 2019, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresere

I've been watching the cast vs forged dumpster fire on this site for a very long time. One person says something and 50 will follow. I appreciate the up to date information. Thanks again.

It's not a 'cast vs. forged' thing so much as an in-spec vs out-of-spec. The raw casting JRA uses was already known to be out-of-spec, it was used for Garands several years ago was was problematic. JRA compounded the casting issues with intentionally making the forward mag catch pin out-of-spec because some ignorant dolt claimed making them in-spec would make them full-auto - it doesn't.
It's like using an Imbel FAL receiver against a Hesse. Yeah, you can make a Hesse work, but would you trust it?

Eli

**andresere** · February 12, 2019, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliYahu

It's not a 'cast vs. forged' thing so much as an in-spec vs out-of-spec. The raw casting JRA uses was already known to be out-of-spec, it was used for Garands several years ago was was problematic. JRA compounded the casting issues with intentionally making the forward mag catch pin out-of-spec because some ignorant dolt claimed making them in-spec would make them full-auto - it doesn't.
It's like using an Imbel FAL receiver against a Hesse. Yeah, you can make a Hesse work, but would you trust it?

Eli

The first thing I'm trying to ascertain is what is the issue. Depends on where you read - I have read in several places it was a small lot of 50-100 receivers that were not heat treated correctly. You say it's out-of-spec. I read what Shuff has on his sight and he said that he used to work on them but won't anymore. He has a great reputation, he's a master gunsmith - if they were that far out of spec why didn't he pick up on it? Not throwing slight at him, asking a question. There are a lot of unknowns to this, but besides this letter that doesn't narrow anything down whatsoever and is from last year, no one has any empirical data.

Orlando8 · February 12, 2019, 19:54

There were more issues than just the recall. If you google theres a lot of reading on them and problems people had ,failure to feed, failure to extract , etc . I am guessing Shuffs had them in his shop to fix these issues . Once he saw the recall he no longer wanted to be responsible for them. Who would?

R_Lloyd · February 12, 2019, 21:10

From the info I received the recall was about the receiver. There were some issues with ejection due to a chamber finish problem with the Bula manufactured barrels. I think they had some issues with some of the M14 guns also. Art showed the solution to this issue in another thread being use of a chamber hone.I beleive he reported that bula had fixed that problem. I had not heard any failure to feed issues.

ROBNTX · February 13, 2019, 09:51

This thread has me going, think I need one of these. I see Sarco has the Italian barrels...

Guys with USGI receivers, did you tear apart working rifles for receiver or source them separately?

StraightShooter · February 13, 2019, 10:06

This thread has me thinking I need a BM59 also.

Has anyone received a Sarco BM59sl kit lately?
Just wondering what condition they are in.

AliYahu · February 13, 2019, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBNTX

This thread has me going, think I need one of these. I see Sarco has the Italian barrels...

Guys with USGI receivers, did you tear apart working rifles for receiver or source them separately?

I broke up a Field Grade, selling the parts came close to what I had in the rifle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightShooter

This thread has me thinking I need a BM59 also.

Has anyone received a Sarco BM59sl kit lately?
Just wondering what condition they are in.

The SL kit I got from Sarco - a while back, but they're the same kits - was rather worn, think 'Field Grade' or 'Rack Grade' to use CMP terms. The BM59 stocks that come with them now are missing the rubber butt pad and related hardware - good luck finding replacements - but they include a NIW 'Tipo 2' stock that you can send to The Stock Emporium and have modified for magazine clearance and the bolt hold-open. The stock on my rifle (pictured above) is a T2 stock that Sean modified, it uses the standard M1 butt plate and eliminates the issue of the BHO pin walking out on standard BM59 stocks.
My Sarco SL kit also came with a current aftermarket rear sight, or at least some of the parts were aftermarket.

Eli

**andresere** · February 13, 2019, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightShooter

This thread has me thinking I need a BM59 also.

Has anyone received a Sarco BM59sl kit lately?
Just wondering what condition they are in.

Someone said in one of these threads that Numrich parts kits aren't missing any parts, while some others are missing 4-5. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1572160

February 05, 2019, 19:04	#1
SWOHFAL Registered FALaholic #: 34346 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kasich-free Zone Posts: 19,371	BM59 - build vs. buy Any reason to build one, other than the challenge of it, rather than buy a James River Armory model? I see the name Tim Shuffin mentioned - I suppose he can build one better than the JRA for me? __________________ Man is tormented by no greater anxiety than to find someone quickly to whom he can hand over that great gift of freedom with which the ill-fated creature is born. - Fyodor Dostoevsky Last edited by SWOHFAL; February 05, 2019 at 19:14.

February 06, 2019, 00:11	#7
Texgunner long-time Texas taxpayer Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 4653 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brokenoak in central Texas-Milam county Posts: 8,100	Oh man, just what I need now that I'm retired...something else to Jones for. Wow, those rifles look good gentlemen, all of them! __________________ "The rock of democracy will founder when people think of people unlike themselves as the "other"-Teddy Roosevelt My daddy was a cowboy in his younger days, wild as the west Texas wind. He once told me, "Son, death is a horse you got to ride. So you better get your saddle ready." heavily armed, easily pissed.

February 07, 2019, 02:50	#9
SWOHFAL Registered FALaholic #: 34346 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kasich-free Zone Posts: 19,371	So, is every BM59 posted in this thread an ITAL variant? __________________ Man is tormented by no greater anxiety than to find someone quickly to whom he can hand over that great gift of freedom with which the ill-fated creature is born. - Fyodor Dostoevsky

February 07, 2019, 11:11	#13
Frenchkat Registered FALaholic #: 17396 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 785	Have to warn you, while the Para and Alpini look cool, they suck to shoot. __________________

February 08, 2019, 15:11	#14
K.O.A.M. Registered FALaholic #: 8025 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,851	I have one that was built for me by Tim Shufflin of Shuff's parkerizing. I provided him a Beretta Garand receiver (by way of the Danish Navy) and an E model kit that I assume to be Argentine. I also had the receiver engraved by a place in Sarasota that has a FFL and replicates the markings made by the Italians when they converted them. Came out so well that I'm looking for a new E model stock-because the rest of the rifle looks pristine. Couldn't be happier. Tim also delivered before the promised due date. __________________ We will now never know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll pop.

February 05, 2019, 19:35	#2
rbgonoles Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 74764 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,620	Tim is an artist. I have three built by him. Get a kit, barrel and Garand receiver. You won’t regret it. For the barrel I had him convert 308 Garand barrels.

February 05, 2019, 19:50	#4
Eyeguy Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 73288 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,331	Tim will build on a Beretta or Breda receiver if you can still find one. He built mine on a Beretta from the Danish contract. Not correct but beautiful and accurate. Some think modifying an M1 receiver is a sacrilege. YMMV

February 05, 2019, 20:59	#6
rbgonoles Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 74764 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,620	Art. At least in my book.

February 07, 2019, 00:27	#8
Pappy Registered FALaholic #: 79404 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Behind Enemy Lines Posts: 71	Picked this one up from Shuff and I love it, I would highly recommend him to do one for you.

February 07, 2019, 07:29	#10
rbgonoles Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 74764 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,620	Yes. Except my one Italian Para

February 07, 2019, 08:51	#12
rbgonoles Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 74764 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,620	Anyone interested in a BM59 (or cold war battle rifles) should pursue a build. Its really hard to convey just how great these rifles feel and shoot. They are very soft shooting, even with a para/folding stock. Softer than my FALs, M1As, and PTR91. Magazines are top notch and rock right in. Overall its a sweet design.

February 09, 2019, 18:03	#19
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 373	Get up on your two feet and shoot the wire stock isn't bad. Its when you shoot them off the bench. Now I couldn't imagine shooting one full auto no matter what postion

February 10, 2019, 10:51	#20
radionicist Registered FALaholic #: 56308 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 30	Build! Tim Shufflin crafted both of these for me

February 10, 2019, 13:08	#22
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 373	Tim built this one for me before they became popular and parts easy to find and cheap ,. Took me awhile to get all the parts for the build. There wasn't any parts kits then Picture was taken of rifle before I installed the Para comp

February 10, 2019, 13:53	#23
Near Sighted Sniper Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 536 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Phila,Pa Posts: 1,169	Where can a guy find kits??

February 10, 2019, 14:11	#24
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 373	Google BM59 kits

February 10, 2019, 14:22	#26
Texgunner long-time Texas taxpayer Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 4653 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brokenoak in central Texas-Milam county Posts: 8,100	What's up with all the kits missing the same 5 small parts? Are those difficult to find now? __________________ "The rock of democracy will founder when people think of people unlike themselves as the "other"-Teddy Roosevelt My daddy was a cowboy in his younger days, wild as the west Texas wind. He once told me, "Son, death is a horse you got to ride. So you better get your saddle ready." heavily armed, easily pissed.

February 10, 2019, 16:01	#27
AZ Deuce Registered FALaholic #: 40828 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 685	Texgunner, I haven't been on their site in a while, but Standard Parts had the missing 3-5 parts ( I thought it was 3?) __________________ Semper Fi AZ Deuce Buckeye, AZ Life ain't fair, but it sure gets interesting sometimes!

February 10, 2019, 16:21	#28
Texgunner long-time Texas taxpayer Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 4653 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brokenoak in central Texas-Milam county Posts: 8,100	Thanks for the info! Hey, can you post a link? I'll check them out. This one is missing five parts but that may be the exception, I only saw these. https://www.centerfiresystems.com/p-...ord=kit-bm59ii It looks like four are missing from these? https://whatacountry.com/italian-bm5...parts-kit.aspx They are just very interesting rifles to me and I would sure love to have too! __________________ "The rock of democracy will founder when people think of people unlike themselves as the "other"-Teddy Roosevelt My daddy was a cowboy in his younger days, wild as the west Texas wind. He once told me, "Son, death is a horse you got to ride. So you better get your saddle ready." heavily armed, easily pissed.

February 10, 2019, 20:32	#30
Near Sighted Sniper Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 536 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Phila,Pa Posts: 1,169	Thanks Aliyahu, gonna order 1 now. I’ve delayed buying 1 of these kits for far too long

February 10, 2019, 22:14	#32
BM59 Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 77492 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Northeast Posts: 328	Build. Both top and bottom ones were built by Tim on Garand receivers. The bottom one is a BM-14, his creation which takes M-14 mags. The one in the middle is a JRA, the small run they made in the beginning with modified Garand receivers. I would not buy their cast receiver. __________________ "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton, 1885-1945

February 10, 2019, 23:58	#35
Near Sighted Sniper Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 536 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Phila,Pa Posts: 1,169	That’s Awesome

February 12, 2019, 01:35	#38
R_Lloyd Registered FALaholic #: 77390 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 56	I bought one with the cast receiver FWIW it has done well for me, I originally had a recalled serial # and James River made it right. I have nothing bad to say about them.

February 12, 2019, 05:45	#39
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 373	Except these rifles never should have been out in the publics hands. Have someone who knows BM59's do your build, Shuffs

February 12, 2019, 14:10	#41
R_Lloyd Registered FALaholic #: 77390 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 56	When I had actually bought a receiver from them when they had the preproduction sale. I was putting the parts kit together when I received notification. I sent them back my barreled receiver and parts kit, they sent me back an assembled rifle. So the receiver I had was a very early one. While I would agree Shuffs is an excellent way to go, I wanted to point out that the JRA rifle isn’t as bad as some would have you believe.

February 12, 2019, 19:54	#45
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 373	There were more issues than just the recall. If you google theres a lot of reading on them and problems people had ,failure to feed, failure to extract , etc . I am guessing Shuffs had them in his shop to fix these issues . Once he saw the recall he no longer wanted to be responsible for them. Who would?

February 12, 2019, 21:10	#46
R_Lloyd Registered FALaholic #: 77390 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 56	Recall/ejection issues From the info I received the recall was about the receiver. There were some issues with ejection due to a chamber finish problem with the Bula manufactured barrels. I think they had some issues with some of the M14 guns also. Art showed the solution to this issue in another thread being use of a chamber hone.I beleive he reported that bula had fixed that problem. I had not heard any failure to feed issues.

February 13, 2019, 09:51	#47
ROBNTX Registered FALaholic #: 79719 Join Date: May 2017 Location: New Braunfels, TX Posts: 14	This thread has me going, think I need one of these. I see Sarco has the Italian barrels... Guys with USGI receivers, did you tear apart working rifles for receiver or source them separately?

February 13, 2019, 10:06	#48
StraightShooter Registered FALaholic #: 9939 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 85	This thread has me thinking I need a BM59 also. Has anyone received a Sarco BM59sl kit lately? Just wondering what condition they are in. __________________ Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't.

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