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Old June 14, 2018, 18:08   #1
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M11 AR Pistol Brace??

In other thread about Tec-9 has had me thinking about adding a few spare parts and maybe another gun to the pair and while lurking about have been checking on M-11 parts, magazines, etc. Have a pair of Form 4 M-11's in 380 with Sionics suppressors using the original rubber wipes. The spindly wire stocks are crappy and sights useless but both have lasers mounted to front of trigger guards and usually one hand them suppressed using the lasers for aiming.

Also have a pair of semi-auto Cobray M-11's in 9mm that have no provision for stocks thus only way to add a stock would be SBR them and can't add a vertical grip adapter either. With suppressor and a heavy Nomex glove hold the suppressor with weak hand and let the lasers do the aiming with the semi-autos as well. Today found an adapter that allows attaching an AR 15 collapsible stock to back of M-10/M-11's on Gunbroker. Looked, thinking was nifty but just another trap requiring a Form 4 to use then thought about what the legality of using it in conjunction with an AR 15 pistol brace rather than collapsible stock.

Would that constitute a violation or not. Using it to install a collapsible SIG brace would add very little length and the rails would likely run perfectly down each side of the pistol. Extended could use as brace or would shoulder better than an original wire stock. Is that something you would send a letter to BATFE for a ruling? At $45 for the adapter plus price of a SIG Brace it would be a huge improvement in ergonomics. Below is link to the adapter. Anyone willing to guess what BATFE would consider this used with a pistol brace?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/774050540
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Old June 14, 2018, 19:44   #2
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Don't fool with that cobbled up nightmare on GB....USMachineguns has exactly what you need!

http://www.usmachinegun.com/proddeta...prod=SHWVF-CSA



Adapter with Upgraded Folding Adapter and (ATF APPROVED) Shockwave Blade Stabilizer for M-11 Cobray Semi Auto. This rear stock adapter is a two piece design cut from the same aluminum as most AR receivers, machined to cradle the receiver for added strength. It has a custom designed inner rear spring spacer that replaces the OEM part. This allows the bracket to be bolted to the gun for improved strength. Upgraded folding adapter offers upgraded machined parts, machined improved locking buffer tube slot to prevent turning, upgraded hinge spring, improved locking hinge, slimmer design and harder coating. Kit also includes Shockwave Blade, KAK tube and Castle Nut. Allen wrench and instructions included. ATF letter can be printed from the KAK industries we site. Available in FDE color.
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Old June 15, 2018, 06:37   #3
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Outfreaking standing. Thats exactly what I need.
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Old June 15, 2018, 12:27   #4
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Be careful ordering from usmachinegun.

I had a really bad experience dealing with him.

If you want specifics, I'll do it in PM.
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Old June 15, 2018, 12:42   #5
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https://www.keepshooting.com/mac-10-stock-adapter.html
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Old June 15, 2018, 12:46   #6
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I have one of those ^ on my M10/9 transferable, but they won't fit on an M11.
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Too bad about USmachineguns. I was hoping to get an ace style folding stock for my M11 carbine.
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Old June 17, 2018, 18:30   #8
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Don't fool with that cobbled up nightmare on GB....USMachineguns has exactly what you need!

http://www.usmachinegun.com/proddeta...prod=SHWVF-CSA



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These are pretty good....but..

.....there is only one tiny technical issue if you ever have to shoulder the oem Cobray.

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These are pretty good....but..

.....there is only one tiny technical issue if you ever have to shoulder the oem Cobray.

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Yep ... Jail ...
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