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Old June 30, 2017, 16:34   #1
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Ruger vs Ruger

So I am getting old and I decided to buy a lightweight Ruger Semi auto. I took it and my old three screw Single Six out that I have had for decades yesterday. Hands down the SS was more reliable and shot better groups than the new auto. I am going to sell the auto, it doesn't run well on any of the ammo I tried and it's a jamamatic.

Love them old three screw Rugers, they are like the energizer bunny..
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Old June 30, 2017, 18:20   #2
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Looking for reliable shootable lightweight slim gun with with 10 round single stack look at the smith Wesson mp shield. You can get em for about 200$ after the rebate. Comes with 8+1 but you can buy a mag guts kit that creates room for 9+1. Not bad for a small single stack.
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Old June 30, 2017, 22:47   #3
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Thats almost full on retard for an experienced gun owner to think a ss will not out perform a micro 9 in paper punching.

I will give you benefit of a small doubt you call a lightweight ruger maybe an LC9 or smaller.... which I carry 50% daily . Shoot once every 3 months to make sure. If I have to shoot at you from 100 feet Good chance a life ending injury is not first shot.
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Old June 30, 2017, 23:41   #4
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It's a lightweight 22.... looks like this...



https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...E+22LR+4.4+ODG
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Old June 30, 2017, 23:45   #5
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Only way that thing is better then a ss is if its got a Ti can on it.
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Old July 01, 2017, 00:01   #6
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I have a can but too heavy for the 22 auto. Works great on an AR.
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Old July 02, 2017, 08:07   #7
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*Nothing beats a Ruger Single Six three screw for fun at plinking.
I can shoot 18 rounds before reloading mine.

Never took a liking to Ruger's semi auto pistol although the new ones look promising, but I am too fond of my old Browning Buckmark to change.

*Ok, there was this brass six barreled Mini Gatling Gun back a while ago, but it wasn't mine and with a $2400 price for one, never likely going to be. It was a hoot to shoot and a beauty to look at.
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Old July 02, 2017, 12:37   #8
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I have a KMK512 (heavy barrel stainless) Mk II and it is dead nutz reliable with just about anything. Needs cleaning every 2k rounds or so, otherwise some ammo will tend to do an OOB discharge.
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Old July 02, 2017, 12:57   #9
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The Single Six works every time, no jams and shoots straight. I was dumb to buy a new Ruger auto, three kinds of ammo and wouldn't run a full mag without jamming.
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Old July 02, 2017, 15:27   #10
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Imo the Ruger MK2's and the later MK1's are the best semiautos in .22 you can get dollar for dollar. S&W model 41's are amazing, but you pay for them. The mk3's suck as they added all the BS that made them blah! The mk4's still have the blah just made it so a idiot can do a tear down. Mk1-3 suck to tear down until you understand them. The mk2 is by far the most customizable semiauto .22 I can think of. Mine are just amazing to shoot.
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Old July 03, 2017, 20:56   #11
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I dont know why people have to have the newest gun out. there are plenty of reliable and proven guns on the used market that it makes no sense to me. my ruger MK1 and 5.5" bull barreled MK2 are hard to beat and i think i have $350 in the pair. My S&W 41with cocking indicator, 6.7/8 barrel and barrel weight / muzzel flash reducer cost me $450.plus the older finer workmanship is outstanding compaired to todays market.
90%of my guns came from the used gun market. I think i've been burned once or twice but the money saved its still worth it. BTW the other 10% are either new, home built,or bought as bad shooters or jamamatics that with some TLC a few new parts, and a spring here and there and they are as good as new or better.

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ps. sometimes just a good cleaning and oiling will make it run like a champ.
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Old July 04, 2017, 13:26   #12
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The only thing the MK2 lacks is the push button mag release. I never understood why so many people could not field strip or reassemble them after a little practice.
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Old July 04, 2017, 14:04   #13
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The only thing the MK2 lacks is the push button mag release. I never understood why so many people could not field strip or reassemble them after a little practice.
I agree, but the extended heel release works ok. It's not a fast reloader imo, it just wasn't built for that. I have seen some guys add some lead tape to the base of the magazines, and with the extended release get pretty fast. My fiends and I are planning to shoot a ten steel target timed event. This makes each stage one magazine, requires accuracy, and speed on the trigger. Very fun
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Old July 04, 2017, 22:15   #14
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I agree, but the extended heel release works ok. It's not a fast reloader imo, it just wasn't built for that. I have seen some guys add some lead tape to the base of the magazines, and with the extended release get pretty fast. My fiends and I are planning to shoot a ten steel target timed event. This makes each stage one magazine, requires accuracy, and speed on the trigger. Very fun
We have had a steel shoot locally in the summer for more than 15 years. As you may expect, the MK-IIs showed up and there have been several mods made to them to speed up the magazine exchange.

The quickest guy drilled the mag catch for a rod about 2" in length. It jutted back a bit to allow clearance for his hand to clear when installing the fresh mag.

He also cut a groove in the center of the mag release to allow the spine of the magazine to slide freely past once the catch was clear of the base pad.

The off hand would brush the extension on the way from the pistol to retrieve the magazine. The mag dropped out nicely. It worked pretty slick.
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I have the Ruger Single Six & a 1965 Ruger standard semi that I did trigger work on. I find that the the old standard is more accurate and easy to aim. The SS goes camping with me sometimes.
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Old July 05, 2017, 19:56   #16
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We have had a steel shoot locally in the summer for more than 15 years. As you may expect, the MK-IIs showed up and there have been several mods made to them to speed up the magazine exchange.

The quickest guy drilled the mag catch for a rod about 2" in length. It jutted back a bit to allow clearance for his hand to clear when installing the fresh mag.

He also cut a groove in the center of the mag release to allow the spine of the magazine to slide freely past once the catch was clear of the base pad.

The off hand would brush the extension on the way from the pistol to retrieve the magazine. The mag dropped out nicely. It worked pretty slick.
I like this idea, I think I will buy a replacement release. Drill and tap a hole that I can thread in rod, or maybe a flap design. But tap it so I can try different styles, and I can see how cutting a V into the rear of it will help. Thanks this maybe the ticket
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I must have bad luck..
Ive owned 3 old single sixes and one new model one. Even discounting that one old model was a convertible with the mag cylinder, none ever shot worth a shit. Best I could say is that a 'good' one could shoot well enough to hit a pop can at 50',,, most of the time...
I'd take almost any semi over a single six,,,even an old Llama or astra..
Now my 3 screw black hawk and super bh are different animals completely....
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GLOCK! and don't look back.

Before you haters start in, NOTHING will diminish my love for my Colt 1911s. But in this modern day there's nothing practical about carrying an extra pound of steel for love.
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GLOCK! and don't look back.

Before you haters start in, NOTHING will diminish my love for my Colt 1911s. But in this modern day there's nothing practical about carrying an extra pound of steel for love.
WRONG! It is entirely practical to carry an extra pound of steel to ward off the effects of cake and doughnut attacks.

B'sides, Gluck's and the likes is just plain ugly and suck as a multirole tool for adjusting attitudes of miscreants.
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WRONG! It is entirely practical to carry an extra pound of steel to ward off the effects of cake and doughnut attacks.
Ok, ok, love handles do make it hard to draw. #nodaysoff

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B'sides, Gluck's and the likes is just plain ugly and suck as a multirole tool for adjusting attitudes of miscreants.
And somehow a Ruger semi-auto is pretty?
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And somehow a Ruger semi-auto is pretty?
Nice lines...

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While I know that many are fans, I absolutely detest a semi-auto 22. 10/22s, Model 60 Marlins, any if the Ruger Mark series, etc as I've never had good experiences with them. I do however have a strong affinity for early Ruger LW Single-Six Tri-colors and my K-22 which was a bday present for my 17th.
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It's just my old three screw never jams and shoots pretty much where I do. I paid more for that new light weight auto and it jammed on everything. I won't ever buy another new Ruger 22 auto.
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Nice lines...

Yeah! The mark II is a beauty. I retract a portion of statement.
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While I know that many are fans, I absolutely detest a semi-auto 22. 10/22s, Model 60 Marlins, any if the Ruger Mark series, etc as I've never had good experiences with them. I do however have a strong affinity for early Ruger LW Single-Six Tri-colors and my K-22 which was a bday present for my 17th.
I've never seen a .22 SA that was remotely close to 100% reliable.
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I've never seen a .22 SA that was remotely close to 100% reliable.
They are as reliable as the ammo you put into them.
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They are as reliable as the ammo you put into them.
Yep, they are finicky.
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Yep, they are finicky.
Mine works far better than the new auto I bought so really I don't see the finicky. Only time it doesn't fire is rim fire ammo that won't go off. The auto had many dofferent kinds of failures from failure to feed and failure to eject.
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And somehow a Ruger semi-auto is pretty?
As you have already admitted, yes the MK II's do have some sleek lines. The MK I's on the other hand were some homely mutts, which is why I have a Browning Buckmark.


Ruger SA = Semi Auto.......Single Action?
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Mine works far better than the new auto I bought so really I don't see the finicky. Only time it doesn't fire is rim fire ammo that won't go off. The auto had many dofferent kinds of failures from failure to feed and failure to eject.
FWIW, I have had some Remmy ammo that failed to feed in the Single Six.
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As you have already admitted, yes the MK II's do have some sleek lines. The MK I's on the other hand were some homely mutts, which is why I have a Browning Buckmark.


Ruger SA = Semi Auto.......Single Action?
I like my s&w 41.
I also have a colt woodsman, but that's just because it's a colt.
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I like my s&w 41.
I also have a colt woodsman, but that's just because it's a colt.
There was never anything wrong with a Colt Woodsman, except the price and difficulty finding one. S&W 41 needs no explanation. Couple nice ones you have there.
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There was never anything wrong with a Colt Woodsman, except the price and difficulty finding one. S&W 41 needs no explanation. Couple nice ones you have there.
I'd really like to find an Ace, but talk about price and availability... you'd think they were made of golden hens teeth.
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