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Old July 16, 2017, 11:20   #1
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Practicing for 100 yd 1" dot challenge.

Got out for a bit this morning with my M25 with Kreiger ss in JAE with Leupold 8.5 - 25 for a little practice. Been awhile since she was out on the range. Trying a little different fodder today.

175 smk in Berdan DAG brass with Tula primer over 43.2 gr of RE 15.
running at 2500 fps. For the 10 rnds fired max spread was .70 ". Looks like I need to skip my morning coffee next time.





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Old July 16, 2017, 15:51   #2
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Pretty darn fancy Art.

Well done, even with coffee.
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Old July 16, 2017, 16:35   #3
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Old July 16, 2017, 17:24   #4
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That dot challenge will drive you insane on a good day
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Old July 16, 2017, 17:33   #5
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That dot challenge will drive you insane on a good day
You got that right. Since Art L. started it on the M14 forum in 2015 I have managed to stay on top. Recently a couple of fellows are starting to get pretty good. Time for me to practice again. I like being good at at least one thing.

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Old July 16, 2017, 17:40   #6
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Old July 16, 2017, 18:00   #7
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Now try that with a stock mosin Nagant with original irons and mil surp ammo. That will be a true test.
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Old July 16, 2017, 18:54   #8
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Now try that with a stock mosin Nagant with original irons and mil surp ammo. That will be a true test.

True test of something, but I am not quite sure what.
I don't think I could even see the 1" dots without my optics.
Could try to run Nascar circuit with a Hugo to. About the same.
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Old July 16, 2017, 18:57   #9
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No one knows how difficult it really is until they actually try it. You get humbled in a hurry
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Old July 17, 2017, 07:41   #10
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No one knows how difficult it really is until they actually try it. You get humbled in a hurry
Indeed. You have to have just about everything working. Trigger conrol, postion,breathing and yes even heart rate.

Practicing for this I single load and get up from position and then back down to establish all over again between shots then acquire site picture and go for it.
Challenge is a good descriptive word for it especially with an M-14 type rifle.
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Old July 17, 2017, 07:43   #11
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Maybe you could use a nip of "Old Sight Settler". Hear it was a favorite with the old High Power guys.

.700" for 10 rounds, I'd say that was a bit all right.
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Like mainer said, a nip of "sight settler" does work, however heavily frowned upon by ROs. My best shooting is mid-day on Sunday after we come home from church for a late brunch with a couple vodka & OJs. Mind is clear and hands are steady
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Very nice shooting, Art.
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do it with open sights. most people with intact neurology and focal ability can resolve a black on white contrast that subtends a minute of angle, which is about an inch square at 100 metres. this is apparently the maximal sensitivity for resolution of edge boundary in the retinotopic function of the M cells in the striate cortex...wish I still could.
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Looks like fun to me!
One inch dots are my customary target at 100 yards, with an optic, although I usually shoot for group instead of doing the *one hit wonder.*

Sorta off topic:

My summer goal is at 50 yards and to *clean* a 25 dot target (.75" diameter and one shot per dot) with a 10/22 I put together last winter.
Not the same game but still a challenge, for me.
It ought to be easy, right?
I've recently scored 23 and 24 hits with CCI Standard Velocity but haven't cleaned it...yet.
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Looks like fun to me!
One inch dots are my customary target at 100 yards, with an optic, although I usually shoot for group instead of doing the *one hit wonder.*

Sorta off topic:

My summer goal is at 50 yards and to *clean* a 25 dot target (.75" diameter and one shot per dot) with a 10/22 I put together last winter.
Not the same game but still a challenge, for me.
It ought to be easy, right?
I've recently scored 23 and 24 hits with CCI Standard Velocity but haven't cleaned it...yet.
10 ring on 50 yd 22 bench rest is 22cal. 20 targets with two spotters.
I have cleaned them with my Kimber Gov 22. and with my Volquartsen 10/22.
You really have to work for those too.
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yep, try it with a 10/22. you'll be measuring rim thickness and taking your tubes temperature. sure is nice to smoke a couple high end bolt guns though,
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Did the 1 inch squares at 25 yds for the Appleseed using my M&P15-22 (before the ban). Really a PITA but doable. Don't think irons at 100 yards is doable, definitely not from me.

Any rifle or does it have to be an M14 clone? got a couple of bolt guns I'd like to try it with. Plus my AR10.

Make your own targets or purchased where?
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What are the rules?
If you are asking about the 100yd 1" dot challenge, rifle must be an M-14 type any configuration. Photo of rifle and target must be posted. 1 shot per dot.
Ammo load description. May be shot from any position.
Any shot contacting the dot is considered a hit.
Personally I shoot prone, but many shoot from a bench.
Try it , you may like it.

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If you are asking about the 100yd 1" dot challenge, rifle must be an M-14 type any configuration. Photo of rifle and target must be posted. 1 shot per dot.
Ammo load description. May be shot from any position.
Any shot contacting the dot is considered a hit.
Personally I shoot prone, but many shoot from a bench.
Try it , you may like it.

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I am currently minus an M-14. I have been attempting to remedy this, but so far I have not been able to get a reply from any of the sellers that I have contacted.
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I am currently minus an M-14. I have been attempting to remedy this, but so far I have not been able to get a reply from any of the sellers that I have contacted.
Give it a shot with an FAL. My 50.00 does a fairly good job, but nothing like a built M-14.
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Looks like fun to me!
One inch dots are my customary target at 100 yards, with an optic, although I usually shoot for group instead of doing the *one hit wonder.*

Sorta off topic:

My summer goal is at 50 yards and to *clean* a 25 dot target (.75" diameter and one shot per dot) with a 10/22 I put together last winter.
Not the same game but still a challenge, for me.
It ought to be easy, right?
I've recently scored 23 and 24 hits with CCI Standard Velocity but haven't cleaned it...yet.
Try the "tack driving" game on RFC - http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=462689

My 10/22 build can do it, but I have to step up from CCI SV to SK Std+ or SK Rifle Match.
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Did the 1 inch squares at 25 yds for the Appleseed using my M&P15-22 (before the ban). Really a PITA but doable. Don't think irons at 100 yards is doable, definitely not from me.

Any rifle or does it have to be an M14 clone? got a couple of bolt guns I'd like to try it with. Plus my AR10.

Make your own targets or purchased where?
Bolt rifles and the AR 10 should be able to do 1/2" dots. Totally different class.
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True test of something, but I am not quite sure what.
I don't think I could even see the 1" dots without my optics.
Could try to run Nascar circuit with a Hugo to. About the same.
Did a postal match on another site a few years back,with a M39 Finn,irons only,using Czech silvertip surplus,and my best group ran about an 1 1/2" @ a hundred. The rifle...capable.The ammo..capable..Me? Anymore? I guess I could try again...
What the heck...you have the ammo,the shizz rifle...give it a whirl...
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You can say that again !!!

It is Proof that it only takes a tiny adjustment to throw off your shooting !!
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