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Old August 31, 2018, 15:06   #1
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Mauser barrels NOS

Sarco has the K98/48 barrels for sale this weekend.

Are these something of value or have they been compromised by Serbia?
Or is this a sales gimmick?

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/mauser-98-...mint-bore.aspx
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Try again. Any interest in NOS k98/48 barrels ?
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Old August 31, 2018, 21:10   #3
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Good barrels. If they are in the shape they claim they will be good shooters. Unfortunately they are not full ribbed and half octagon, and in 9x57, so my search continues
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Is that a true statement that they ar 9x57?
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Is that a true statement that they ar 9x57?
No. They are not. They are also not half octagon. Neither are they full ribbed. They are standard 8x57, unfortunately for me. I am looking for a half octagon, full rib, 9x57
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WOW,,,,,,$150. For a take off 98 barrel is a special sale ??

Havent we come a long way since SARCO had barrels of brand new in the white 96 & 98 military barrels for $20...
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WOW,,,,,,$150. For a take off 98 barrel is a special sale ??

Havent we come a long way since SARCO had barrels of brand new in the white 96 & 98 military barrels for $20...
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M48 is not K98. the M48 was about 1/4" shorter in action length. perhaps someone remembers if the barrels are also different in dimension.
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M48 is not K98. the M48 was about 1/4" shorter in action length. perhaps someone remembers if the barrels are also different in dimension.
I'm curious about this myself, since M48s in great shape bring less than K98Ks is decent shape, and I have a Norwegian 7.62 barrel.

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Old September 02, 2018, 21:11   #11
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AliYahu, where did you get the Norwegian 7.62mm barrel? Been looking to rebarrel my Israeli Mauser.
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AliYahu, where did you get the Norwegian 7.62mm barrel? Been looking to rebarrel my Israeli Mauser.
They came in fairly cheap years ago, I've picked up 2 watching the classifieds here and there. If you look around, you can usually find 'GI Profile' 7.62/.308 barrels, although they seem to be dry lately.
One of mine is going on a sporterized, all-matching rifle my grandfather sent home during WWII - I already have 7.62 around and can't justify a second caliber.

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AliYahu, where did you get the Norwegian 7.62mm barrel? Been looking to rebarrel my Israeli Mauser.
They used to be available here:

http://www.copesdistributing.com/
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AliYahu, where did you get the Norwegian 7.62mm barrel? Been looking to rebarrel my Israeli Mauser.
The main source of the Kongsberg .308 barrels was Numrich Arms. They were never cheap, seem to recall when they were available they were like $135 ?

The Numrich barrels were intended for match use in marksmenship programs and were NOS in like a dark phosphate finish.

SAMCO had .308 Izzy bbls in the White for $50 in a true K98 profile. Some were marked, some were not. I have seen the SAMCO barrels being advertised as Kongsberg products.
The IDF barrels are great quality but I wouldn't rate them in the same class as those manufactured in Norway.

The Kongsberg barrels are slightly different than a true K98 profile, you need to do some extremely minor inlet work and modify the front band slightly as they are just a bit thicker.

Pretty certain the barrels Copes had were IDF
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AliYahu, where did you get the Norwegian 7.62mm barrel? Been looking to rebarrel my Israeli Mauser.
Lothar Walther has new K98 barrels in most standard calibers for about $250.
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I bought one of those copes barrels, had sledgehammer use it on the Izzy Mauser build. I thought the barrel was a Norwegian heavy target barrel that had been turned down to Mauser military profile.
Regardless of origin it turned out to be a real tack driver.
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I think it was actually Cole Dist. that had those barrels from Norway, rather than Copes.
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I think it was actually Cole Dist. that had those barrels from Norway, rather than Copes.
I always get those two mixed up. Need to go back to the build docs and have a look any way, I think I need a correct front barrel band to finish that rifle. I should post some pics.
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I think it was actually Cole Dist. that had those barrels from Norway, rather than Copes.
Yep Mets' you may be correct
in any case neither the Kongsberg or IDF bbls have been available from mainstream vendors for maybe a decade ?
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The main source of the Kongsberg .308 barrels was Numrich Arms. They were never cheap, seem to recall when they were available they were like $135 ?

The Numrich barrels were intended for match use in marksmenship programs and were NOS in like a dark phosphate finish.

SAMCO had .308 Izzy bbls in the White for $50 in a true K98 profile. Some were marked, some were not. I have seen the SAMCO barrels being advertised as Kongsberg products.
The IDF barrels are great quality but I wouldn't rate them in the same class as those manufactured in Norway.

The Kongsberg barrels are slightly different than a true K98 profile, you need to do some extremely minor inlet work and modify the front band slightly as they are just a bit thicker.

Pretty certain the barrels Copes had were IDF
Numrich has sold current-production military-profile .308 barrels on and off for years. Copes - or Cole's, I also don't recall - had Norwegian barrels. I want to say they were $99/ea or 2 or more for $89/ea. Both of mine, acquired second-hand but NOS, are in the white.
I seem to recall Gunplumber having a shitton of NOS Israeli barrels at one time.

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...and they are sold out


I would love to have found a 308 barrel, but no hurry.
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I just went to the Copes Dist. site and you can click on a 7.62 Mauser barrel for the princely sum of $200. The new 8 mm barrels are listed as having a 1/2 in. removed from the muzzle - I bet they were threaded and cut the threads off.

Sorry, I didn't look close enough - the $200 7.62 barrel was a stripped FAL barrel.

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M48 is not K98. the M48 was about 1/4" shorter in action length. perhaps someone remembers if the barrels are also different in dimension.
An M48 barrel will have the same thread pattern but has a safety breach protruding from the breachface. Mine did at least. You don't need it though and pretty much all other K98 rifles didn't use them. We rebarreled my first M48 with a used K98 barrel from Numrich, then later replaced that with a new barrel from Lothar Walther.

Lothar Walther barrels are generally "long chambered" meaning that you'll need to take some measurements and turn the breachface back a few thou before tightening it onto the receiver. Most other barrels are short chambered so you'd need to buy/rent/borrow a reamer to finish ream the last few thousandths of the chamber to complete the install.
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I have used 2 Norway barrels, 1 Lothar Walther, and 1 Israeli for 98ks in .308. They were all short chamber except for the the Israeli, which didn't need any adjustment.

I have had that LW barrel a long time though. Maybe they are different these days.

The LW shot really well with SA R1M1. Everyone liked the Port back then, but I thought the South African was great ammunition. I sux and it made me look decent sometimes.
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Yup, it was Coles.

IMG_20180929_215410341

The only marking I could find on the barrel.

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Whoever did a good job turning down the barrel to mauser profile. I found a NOS Izzy stock for it.

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NOS Izzy Buttplate

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Receiver markings.

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When I got this thing from Century it looked like it had been buried in dirt and had the wrong bolt in it. Stock was F-d up and barrel was a sewer pipe. Got a bolt from Sarco and I found as many NOS parts as I could and sent it all off to Sledgehammer to build.

IMG_20180929_210454576

Shoots like a laser but my eyes are bad. I want to scope this but am unsure of the best way to do it. Sorry for the crappy pics.
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When I got this thing from Century it looked like it had been buried in dirt and had the wrong bolt in it. Stock was F-d up and barrel was a sewer pipe. Got a bolt from Sarco and I found as many NOS parts as I could and sent it all off to Sledgehammer to build.

IMG_20180929_210454576

Shoots like a laser but my eyes are bad. I want to scope this but am unsure of the best way to do it. Sorry for the crappy pics.
That's gorgeous.

Ask Peconga about scoping, he's sharp on that.
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I have an Izzy Mauser 98 project in the "to do" pile. Your rifle is beautiful and inspiring. Well done!
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That's gorgeous.

Ask Peconga about scoping, he's sharp on that.
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I have an Izzy Mauser 98 project in the "to do" pile. Your rifle is beautiful and inspiring. Well done!
Thank you.

Any thoughts on scope mounts? I shoot left hand. Got to deal with bolt handle but dont much like the skyscraper high scope mounting of any type I see on these things. I'm leaning toward no-gunsmithing mounts, like a long low picatinny rail thing anchored to the rear sight base because I'm a little worried about drilling and tapping the receiver.
Whichever way I go it needs to be fighting solid. I guess if I have to go high I will.
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Thanks! Peconga is the man. Sharp is an understatement.
y/w. Did you two make contact? I want to see how this tale turns out.
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