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Old May 15, 2019, 11:17   #601
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I forgot to add that shooting my Officers model with ZQ1 turkish nato ball I had to turn the gas up a little. Ejection was 4-5 feet . To get it 9-10 feet ejection. The Men German brand was more powerful. Both shot very accurate military peep sites around 3-4" off rest slow fire at 100yards . The rifle was a pleasure to shoot. And soft recoiling. The only thing I did change was the wood which was vg condition to a new in cosmo Israeli set I have had for 20 some years. The rifle took all my 13 mixed surplus metric mags with no problems. And also 4 Hebrew mags. I am pleased and its my favorite Fal.
If you'll read DS Arms manual that comes with the rifle it suggests you set the gas valve to where the bolt lock open device locks the bolt open after the last round of the magazine?
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Yup. Jan 25th. Called and told will ship soon May 14th.
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Old May 15, 2019, 12:28   #603
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DSA matched set on GB

Spotted on GunBroker and offerd by DSA matched set Izzy Heavy and Izzy light,with custom made crate.Starting bid 8000.I can't figure out how to post a link....found it under the SA58 Catagory last night.
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Old May 15, 2019, 14:22   #605
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Oh boi !!!

Almost a full month after I ordered and they are telling me 4 more weeks.

This is fubarred.

159xxx Re-Order 2/8/2019 3:28:46 PM Payment Method: CREDITCARD (AUTHORIZED) Not Yet Shipped $1,395.00 None
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Spotted on GunBroker and offerd by DSA matched set Izzy Heavy and Izzy light,with custom made crate.Starting bid 8000.I can't figure out how to post a link....found it under the SA58 Catagory last night.
Got a chuckle out of that.. May be my ignorance as a relative newbie to FALs but $8000?
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Old May 15, 2019, 19:47   #607
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The bolt can lock back on a empty magazine and the rifle still can have slugish extraction. It is better to have 8-10 feet of ejection than 3-6 feet and possible smoke stacks on weak ejection. In combat positive ejecton and 10 feet of ejection is what you want. In a fire fight they foul up and the extra ejection will keep you running. Do not worry about minimum bolt travel to lock on a empty magazine. Worry about it running mag dump after mag dump. Its not a toy to under gas.
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Old May 15, 2019, 20:26   #608
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Thatís a week past my soldier grade order date and Iíve heard absolutely nothing.

They really do have a strange way of doing things!
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Oh boi !!!
Man I'm sorry guys (well not totally). 4-6 weeks advertised upon order turned out to be 10. It does seem strange they're aren't fulfilling orders by date. I figured I'd be into mid June the way I was reading things off this thread.

I'll be sure to post up a bunch of pics so y'all can get more of a detailed look of was a SG version's gonna look like for ya. Might be a bit before I get out to the range though. I have several other toys that need to be sighted in and their barrels warmed up for the first time too.

I have an Izzy SUIT I was thinking of throwing on her. I forget if I asked this but might that have been an As-Issued possibly back in the day?
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Spotted on GunBroker and offerd by DSA matched set Izzy Heavy and Izzy light,with custom made crate.Starting bid 8000.I can't figure out how to post a link....found it under the SA58 Catagory last night.
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Man I'm sorry guys (well not totally). 4-6 weeks advertised upon order turned out to be 10. It does seem strange they're aren't fulfilling orders by date. I figured I'd be into mid June the way I was reading things off this thread.

I'll be sure to post up a bunch of pics so y'all can get more of a detailed look of was a SG version's gonna look like for ya. Might be a bit before I get out to the range though. I have several other toys that need to be sighted in and their barrels warmed up for the first time too.

I have an Izzy SUIT I was thinking of throwing on her. I forget if I asked this but might that have been an As-Issued possibly back in the day?
If you mount a Trilux SUIT scope, you will need to remove the rear peep sight. Just don't put in a 'Safe Place', never to be seen again !!
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My jan 25th officer grade shipped today. Ought to have it tuesday or wednesday.
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Thatís a week past my soldier grade order date and Iíve heard absolutely nothing.

They really do have a strange way of doing things!
Received an emailed notice of credit card charge and shipping of my soldier grade today! 11.5 weeks since my order on Feb 24.
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Old May 16, 2019, 21:23   #614
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If you mount a Trilux SUIT scope, you will need to remove the rear peep sight. Just don't put in a 'Safe Place', never to be seen again !!
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Hmmm. Just took a look at both my Argy and STG58. Seem to have the same rear peeps as each other. On the Argy I have a DSA railed cover + ACOG TA11 and on the STG I have a SUIT. Both peeps clear the back of the scopes as long as they are pulled all the way down. Is the Izzy rear peep different/higher than an STG58?
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I got the info from a friend who ran into the problem on his Izzy.

The Military did not put Trilux scopes on their FAL's.
They used them on their M15's after their FAL days.
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I got the info from a friend who ran into the problem on his Izzy.

The Military did not put Trilux scopes on their FAL's.
They used them on their M15's after their FAL days.
Huh? Sorry, perhaps I should have started another thread about this but your saying the Israeli military did not put SUITs on their FALs or NO military put them on FALs .
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Huh? Sorry, perhaps I should have started another thread about this but your saying the Israeli military did not put SUITs on their FALs or NO military put them on FALs .
It should be obvious to anyone other than a freaking moron, that he's referring to the FAL. Otherwise there would be no need to remove rear sight - eh? What with it not folding down like the Commonwealth.

Have plenty of Izzy AR-15 SUIT mounts, original and repo, and Izzy marked SUIT for AR-15. Never seen an Izzy FAL SUIT mount. You got a pic of one, I'd love to be edumacated.
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. Never seen an Izzy FAL SUIT mount .
All I was originally asking about was whether Israel ever put SUITs on their FALs? Since you're probably one of the definitive experts on FALs in the US I'll take the above quote to mean a very strong "unlikely" as your answer to my question.

That one might fit or not is another topic. So far SIUTs fit on both my Argy and STG58 that do not have flip sights.
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It is obvious from his post and the fact that this thread is on the FAL ISRAEL , that Graham was saying the (Israeli) military did not use SUIT on FAL. Not any random military world wide.

Your post was foolish. Doubling down on it, is more so.

Now the (Israeli) Military might have played with a FAL SUIT, but I have seen no historical evidence of it as an issue item. The mounts that I have seen, have been for traditional optics or night vision (and primitive). By the time of the 6x Norad? scope, it was M14s and Galils. Prior to that (c1966), converted K98s with Swiss Wild Heerbrugg. 4x scopes, and anything else they could get their hands on.

AR Mounts? By the truckload. Got one on my desk now.
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Of late...I purchased an Izzy labeled SUIT scope of GB.
Seller made no mention of a mount.
However, when it arrived, it was mounted to an AR15 (or is M15) mount.
Cool (or scary) feature was the 'Radioactive' sticker on it.

There are a couple of Commonwealth & Izzy features which were never adopted/adaptive to FAL variants, including (as Mark refers to) Folding Rear Sites and Folding Charging Handles.
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Your post was foolish. Doubling down on it, is more so.
Phew. Thanks for letting me know. For a minute I thought I was just a casual hobbyist seeking to learn more from others more experienced. In the end I was just a "foolish" "moron".

I am redeemed !
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Phew. Thanks for letting me know. For a minute I thought I was just a casual hobbyist seeking to learn more from others more experienced. In the end I was just a "foolish" "moron".

I am redeemed !
Lots of us foolish morons here. I learned something too. Thatís what Iím here for.

I also learned that the resident curmudgeons are quite...curmudgeonly. I think we all knew that already though.
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Phew. Thanks for letting me know. For a minute I thought I was just a casual hobbyist seeking to learn more from others more experienced. In the end I was just a "foolish" "moron".

I am redeemed !
Your question was foolish as the context was obvious. This is a thread on Israeli stuff. Not any military, at any time, anywhere in the world.

Like asking "what condition is your NIB gun in?". The question is foolish on it's face. But go ahead and pretend to be a victim, and I'm the bad guy for pointing out the foolishness of it. (it won't be your first time)

The proper response would be "yeah, that was a stupid question, next time I'll think before I post something so retarded"

Or just pretend to be a victim. Your call.
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Your question was foolish as the context was obvious. This is a thread on Israeli stuff. Not any military, at any time, anywhere in the world.

Like asking "what condition is your NIB gun in?". The question is foolish on it's face. But go ahead and pretend to be a victim, and I'm the bad guy for pointing out the foolishness of it. (it won't be your first time)

The proper response would be "yeah, that was a stupid question, next time I'll think before I post something so retarded"

Or just pretend to be a victim. Your call.
Yikes !!! Sorry man, my mistake. I thought I'd already recovered from the dressing down you gave me earlier on this thread for trying to steer business towards a local brick-n-mortar but, here, let me fix that for me:

Yeah, MARK, that was a stupid question, next time I'll think before I post something so retarded.

We good now?

Now, this weekend I hope to post detailed pictures of a pretty cool Soldiers Grade I just received. You are invited and encouraged NOT to responded to any comments or questions I may have. No doubt my ignorance of the platform and inappropriateness of questions breaking ubiquitous or assumed rules will no doubt infuriate you so please spare yourself and refrain. Besides, based on the excoriating things I've seen you say about DSA over the years I'm not exactly sure why you would be participating on their own promotional sales thread to begin with.
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Your question was stupid, which I noted. Your obfuscations doesn't change the fact that "military" in a thread on Israeli FALs, refers to ISRAELI military and not any random military anywhere in the fcuking world.
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Like asking "what condition is your NIB gun in?". The question is foolish on it's face.
Ooops one more thing: since you put me in quotes. I don't recall posting those words. Can you link the post number? Or was it someone else's "foolish" question you are referring to.

Of course none of the rifles discussed here, far as I can tell, are technically NIB as they are constructed of Milsurp parts (save for the barrel and receiver).
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Ooops one more thing: since you put me in quotes. I don't recall posting those words. Can you link the post number? Or was it someone else's "foolish" question you are referring to.

Of course none of the rifles discussed here, far as I can tell, are technically NIB as they are constructed of Milsurp parts (save for the barrel and receiver).
Doubling down on retard is just double retard.

Here's a tip - when you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, and your stupid excuses and deflections aren't getting you out, a good first step would be to stop digging!

Like = akin to, similar to, bearing semblance of, of or related to.

And yeah, I've been asked what condition a NIB gun was in. That guy was a retard too - just like you.
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Besides, based on the excoriating things I've seen you say about DSA over the years I'm not exactly sure why you would be participating on their own promotional sales thread to begin with.
I love you man. The gift that just keeps on giving. Once again I am bored on a Friday night so . . .

No doubt you are one of the renowned experts on FALs in the US and a gifted craftsman. Your analysis and experience is probably hard to challenge. And I have been VERY pleased with the work you have done for me. But you seem kinda like one of those savant/Asperger types that are absolute geniuses in a narrow proficiency that have little to no social skills/graces.

Been bumping into your posts for years. Good info but is there anyone here that has not been berated by Mark Graham at one time or another? You seem to take absolute pleasure in crapping on people that don't conform to some ideal of what you perceive as a correct way of communicating zero’ing in on people’s missteps. How they post, what they say, is rarely correct w/o earning an “idiocy” comment before you share nuggets of what’s germane. And what’s most outstanding since you occupy so much time on this forum is you seem to have NO heart of a teacher whatsoever unless marinated with Mark’s own Socratic method first. . Has anyone ever called you a narcissist? I think I about crapped my pants when you kind of recanted / apologized for criticism of me here on post # 269. Okay my story/experience may have been dumb/boring/bloviated but cripes sake I’m just a hobbyist/collector like many on this forum sharing experience. You do this for a living. Maybe you should start or belong to an invite only, collegiate level, and prequalified forum about FALs.

Now how about that business acumen . . .

For example, here you are crapping on a DSA-started thread: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437515 where they were talking about trying to improve engravings on the rifles they are promoting on THIS thread. And at post #125 you go into expansive detail about how you are hoping to go into production with your own receiver to compete with them because they are _______ (fill in the blank with Mark’s favorite expletive). http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showp...&postcount=125

Oy, talk about civility and professional decorum. Dude, If you were just a loudmouthed hobbyist (as so often seen on the AKfiles) I’d think – “whatever”. But you are a professional and completely out of integrity on this one. Beyond the pale!!! Start your own thread instead of piggybacking on whatever traffic DSA is drawing to theirs.

And before people start saying I am some sort of shill for DSA be it known; the only product I have ever purchased from them before this SG Izzy FAL is their railed dust cover (and it works great).

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Thats just gun forums for you. You could post "Wow that grass sure is green" and someone would find a way to not only argue that but insult you. "Its actually a shade of brown you ******* idiot" would be the reply. It's entertaining to watch when others go at it, not so much when the sights are pointed at you. Had a guy just the other day here ask for opinions on sarcos rhodesian magazines, based on his very friendly and not at all rude replies to me his title should have been "don't post anything negative, what are your glowing reviews of this product?"

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I love you man. The gift that just keeps on giving. Once again I am bored on a Friday night so . . .

No doubt you are one of the renowned experts on FALs in the US and a gifted craftsman. Your analysis and experience is probably hard to challenge. And I have been VERY pleased with the work you have done for me. But you seem kinda like one of those savant/Asperger types that are absolute geniuses in a narrow proficiency that have little to no social skills/graces.

Been bumping into your posts for years. Good info but is there anyone here that has not been berated by Mark Graham at one time or another? You seem to take absolute pleasure in crapping on people that don't conform to some ideal of what you perceive as a correct way of communicating zero’ing in on people’s missteps. How they post, what they say, is rarely correct w/o earning an “idiocy” comment before you share nuggets of what’s germane. And what’s most outstanding since you occupy so much time on this forum is you seem to have NO heart of a teacher whatsoever unless marinated with Mark’s own Socratic method first. . Has anyone ever called you a narcissist? I think I about crapped my pants when you kind of recanted / apologized for criticism of me here on post # 269. Okay my story/experience may have been dumb/boring/bloviated but cripes sake I’m just a hobbyist/collector like many on this forum sharing experience. You do this for a living. Maybe you should start or belong to an invite only, collegiate level, and prequalified forum about FALs.

Now how about that business acumen . . .

For example, here you are crapping on a DSA-started thread: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437515 where they were talking about trying to improve engravings on the rifles they are promoting on THIS thread. And at post #125 you go into expansive detail about how you are hoping to go into production with your own receiver to compete with them because they are _______ (fill in the blank with Mark’s favorite expletive). http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showp...&postcount=125

Oy, talk about civility and professional decorum. Dude, If you were just a loudmouthed hobbyist (as so often seen on the AKfiles) I’d think – “whatever”. But you are a professional and completely out of integrity on this one. Beyond the pale!!! Start your own thread instead of piggybacking on whatever traffic DSA is drawing to theirs.

And before people start saying I am some sort of shill for DSA be it known; the only product I have ever purchased from them before this SG Izzy FAL is their railed dust cover (and it works great).
This may come as a surprise to some members here as Mark Graham is a very large customer of DSA. He orders lots o DSA products for his ARS business. So, his personal paradox is his love/hate relationship with DSA.
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And yet the simple fact remains: "Israeli" military was understood by the content of this thread being "Israeli", and asking Graham if he meant any military in the whole world was foolish by any objective standard - which I pointed out.

None of your rambling obfuscations alter that.
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You just cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
The last time I ordered from DSA was 10 receivers in January of 2001.

So again, the fraud DakTo slanders his betters. This pathetic cockroach needs to be permanently banned.

The fact is, I'd love to carry select DSA products on my webstore. Furniture, scope rails, US H/T/S sets, etc. DSA has many good products. Two things prevent me from doing so. The dealer discount is marginal so my return on investment is better through other avenues. I bought $20K in FAL parts this month, on which I'll double my money easy. Versus a max ~25-30% ROI with DSA. Some parts I'd want to carry anyway, just as a convenience to my customers - but with their constant lies, threats, and slanders against me, it would be awkward for me to allow them to sell their products through my web store.

So no, I do not order "lots of parts." You are once again a proven liar and slanderer and should be banned.
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This may come as a surprise to some members here as Mark Graham is a very large customer of DSA. He orders lots o DSA products for his ARS business. .
Where did you pull this from? Have a source for this information? How about a post somewhere where your claim is verified? You may as well have said the pope orders his shit from DSA, your claim would have had as much validity.
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Old May 18, 2019, 23:21   #636
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Donít mind me...

Just gonna poke my head out in the middle of this slapping contest and let you all know I placed an order for a soldier grade and the gave me a rather wide estimate of 6-10 weeks due to receiver and barrel delays.
Hope itís worth the wait!
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Where did you pull this from? Have a source for this information? How about a post somewhere where your claim is verified? You may as well have said the pope orders his shit from DSA, your claim would have had as much validity.
My outside reliable source is my business and none of your business.
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Old May 19, 2019, 06:46   #639
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My outside reliable source is my business and none of your business.
The emperor has new clothes, eh? Par for the course.

Mark has you pegged to a T. And it's killing you.
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Old May 19, 2019, 07:51   #640
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Ok, dak to, THATS bullshit. If you are gonna ball up and call out a man, then give your source or shut up. I learned while still a TEEN that anything needing done anonymously HAS to be done with your name attached to it to be worth a damn. That applies here.

I have no dog in this fight. Not familiar enough with the history or issues. But frankly, after that bullshit, I am a 100% ARS supporter now. I believe he is knowledgeable on fals, and while he at times might be rough to people, he is not a bullshitter.

Amazing man. Amazing.
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Old May 19, 2019, 07:53   #641
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Oh, picking up my officer tomorrow after I get done teaching. Summer break is upon me, my annual semi-retirement, so hipefully I can get out and shoot soon.
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Oh, picking up my officer tomorrow after I get done teaching. Summer break is upon me, my annual semi-retirement, so hipefully I can get out and shoot soon.
Sweetest time o' the year for teachers! I remember it well. The summer "break" would almost ruin me every year, it was so tough to get back to work after that.

Enjoy that new rifle brother teacher!
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Just snagged a type A bayonet to go with the soldier grade l ordered May 4. Its nicely worn look should be a better match then one of the restored ones available. Hoping to receive the rifal ...mybe late July or August
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Where did you pull this from?
He's lying again (of course!).

DakTo is a pathological liar, a slanderer, and a fraud. He should be permanently banned. The Fal Files does not need this lowlife, piece-of-shit fraud, dirtying the board. Allowing such a proven liar to continue here, reflects poorly on the administration. There is no greater evil, in my opinion, than bearing false witness against another.

He had a lot of folks here fooled for a while, before I outed him and his fellow frauds SAFN49 and Lee.

Say "your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" and get banned.

Smear, a man's good name - lie about him - slander and defame him over and over and the administration will give their tacit approval by looking the other way.
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Oh, picking up my officer tomorrow after I get done teaching. Summer break is upon me, my annual semi-retirement, so hipefully I can get out and shoot soon.
Pictures when it comes in, hope to have my new FAL in hand by early June.
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Say "your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" and get banned.

Smear, a man's good name - lie about him - slander and defame him over and over and the administration will give their tacit approval by looking the other way.
I'm not carrying water for Jen, but it's clearly harder than that to get a ban.

Also, "slander" - as you well know - actually means something *and* for it to be actionable has to be proven. While you claim (and I believe you) that you don't buy DSA parts, and he claims you do, it isn't easily provable here, and is outside the scope of the Admin's 'care' .

He'll keep being him, and you'll keep being you. It isn't hurting your wallet, is it? I mean, you're backed up for weeks and/or months fixing DSA's sucky receivers, right?

I think the "Admin" is doing you a favor. We're providing a Foil for your righteous character to rant against. There are a lot of people here that keep sending you money, so I think it's working out.
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I'm not carrying water for Jen, but it's clearly harder than that to get a ban.

Also, "slander" - as you well know - actually means something *and* for it to be actionable has to be proven. While you claim (and I believe you) that you don't buy DSA parts, and he claims you do, it isn't easily provable here, and is outside the scope of the Admin's 'care' .

He'll keep being him, and you'll keep being you. It isn't hurting your wallet, is it? I mean, you're backed up for weeks and/or months fixing DSA's sucky receivers, right?

I think the "Admin" is doing you a favor. We're providing a Foil for your righteous character to rant against. There are a lot of people here that keep sending you money, so I think it's working out.
Shhhhh! The trolls are my #1 marketing tool.

In general, that is. Some are so over-the-top, like the frauds SAFN49, DakTo, and Lee - and their slanders are so blatant and obvious (they can't even keep their lies straight from one post to the next) - that it begs the question: of what value is their presence on the FalFiles?

You are correct that a case for defamation must include damages. In a per se case, as the three stooges have done - damages are assumed and do not have to be proven.

The irony is that the three stooges have so totally discredited themselves, that nobody takes them seriously. Like trying to make a defamation case against a 2 year old. The 2 year old has no credibility, so I have no claim. It is an odd defense, but DakTo can simply state that since he is known to be a pathological liar, his slanders are not actionable.

It still doesn't belong here.
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The emperor has new clothes, eh? Par for the course.

Mark has you pegged to a T. And it's killing you.
Perhaps you need a course in Logic 101 with your Pope shit and DSA nonsense?
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Ok, dak to, THATS bullshit. If you are gonna ball up and call out a man, then give your source or shut up. I learned while still a TEEN that anything needing done anonymously HAS to be done with your name attached to it to be worth a damn. That applies here.

I have no dog in this fight. Not familiar enough with the history or issues. But frankly, after that bullshit, I am a 100% ARS supporter now. I believe he is knowledgeable on fals, and while he at times might be rough to people, he is not a bullshitter.

Amazing man. Amazing.
Who cares what you are now as someone without a dog in a fight. You're just another buttinski.
What I believed you had learned as a teen was to rat out your confidential sources.
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No, its was HONESTY I learned. A lesson lost on you CLEARY. Hope more see through you here....
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