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Old May 28, 2006, 15:13   #1
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Earthquake preparedness

I'm surprised I couldn't find any existing threads on the realities of earthquakes, amongst than the usual Mutant Zombie Biker theories. Not to capitalize on the recent "must see TV" NBC movie-of-the-moment silliness, but in addition to the California fault lines, there's always the New Madrid zone.

http://www.showme.net/~fkeller/quake/maps.htm

An article on the consequences of an earthquake in Indonesia, which just left at least 4,300 dead, follows in the second post. Note that the comments from the victims sound alot like post-Katrina quotes.
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Old May 28, 2006, 15:14   #2
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Survivors From Massive Earthquake Search for Food
Death Toll Rises to More Than 4,300
By CHRIS BRUMMITT, AP

BANTUL, Indonesia (May 28) - Tens of thousands camped out for a second night Sunday in streets, cassava fields and the paths between rice paddies as the death toll from Indonesia's earthquake topped 4,300.

Rattled by hundreds of aftershocks, exhausted and grieving survivors scavenged for food and clothes in the brick, wood and tile rubble of their flattened houses. They pleaded for aid, which - despite worldwide pledges of millions of dollars and planes carrying medicine and food - seemed to be coming too slow.

Torrential rain late Sunday added to the misery of some 200,000 people left homeless by Saturday's 6.3-magnitude quake, most of them living in makeshift shelters of plastic, canvas or cardboard. Thousands of wounded awaited treatment in hospitals overflowing with bloodied patients.

"So far no one from the government has shown any care for us," said villager Brojo Sukardi. "Please tell people to help us."

The quake on the island of Java was the fourth destructive temblor to hit Indonesia in the last 17 months, including the one that spawned the Dec. 26, 2004, tsunami that killed 230,000 people across Asia, most of them on this Indian Ocean archipelago.

The country also is coping with the bird flu crisis, Islamic militant terror attacks, and the threat of eruption from Mount Merapi. The quake not only raised activity at the rumbling volcano but also damaged the 9th-century Prambanan temple, a U.N. world heritage site.

The disaster zone covered hundreds of square miles of mostly farming communities to the south of the ancient city of Yogyakarta. Power and telephone service was out Sunday across much of the region. As many as 450 aftershocks followed, the strongest a magnitude 5.2.

The worst devastation was in the Bantul district, which accounted for three-quarters of the deaths. One man dug his 5-year-old daughter out of the rubble of her bedroom only to have her die in a hospital awaiting treatment with hundreds of others.

"Her last words were 'Daddy, Daddy,"' said Poniran, who like many Indonesians uses only one name.

"I have to start my life from zero again."

In Peni, a hamlet on Bantul's southern outskirts, 20 residents searched for a neighbor after finding the bodies of his wife and three children. Villagers set up simple clinics despite shortages in medicine and equipment. Women cooked catfish from a nearby pond for dozens of people huddled under a large tent.

The U.N. World Food Program started distributing emergency food rations Sunday, with three trucks bringing high-energy biscuits to some of the worst-hit districts and two Singapore military cargo planes landing with doctors and medical supplies.

"I regret the slow distribution of aid," Idam Samawi, the Bantul district chief, told The Associated Press.

"Many government officials have no sensitivity to this. They work slowly under complicated bureaucracy, while survivors are racing against death and disease."

At least 4,332 people were killed, according to government figures, and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent said at least 200,000 people were left homeless. Most of the dead were buried within hours of the disaster, in line with Islamic tradition.

The earthquake hit at 5:54 a.m. as most people slept, caving in tile roofs and sending walls crashing down. Survivors screamed as they ran from their homes, some clutching bloodied children and the elderly.

The quake's epicenter was 50 miles south of the volcano, and activity increased soon after the temblor. A large burst spewed hot clouds and sent debris cascading some two miles down its western flank. No one was injured because nearby residents had been evacuated.

Officials said the famed 7th-century Borobudur Buddhist temple, one of Indonesia's famed tourist attractions, was not affected. But Prambanan, a spectacular Hindu temple to the southeast, suffered serious damage, with hundreds of stone carvings and blocks scattered around the ancient site.

It will be closed until archeologists can determine whether the foundation was damaged, Agus Waluyo, head of the Yogyakarta Archaeological Conservation Agency, said Sunday. Close to 1 million tourists visit the Borobudur and Prambanan temples every year.

International agencies and nations across Europe and Asia pledged millions of dollars in aid and prepared shipments of tents, blankets, generators, water purification equipment and other supplies. The United States promised $2.5 million in emergency aid; the European Union granted $3.8 million. Indonesia said late Sunday it would allocate $107 million to help rebuild over the next year.

Indonesia, the world's largest island chain, is prone to seismic upheaval due to its location on the so-called "Ring of Fire," an arc of volcanos and fault lines encircling the Pacific Basin. It has 76 volcanos, the largest number in the world.

05/28/06 14:44 EDT
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Old May 29, 2006, 09:59   #3
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Preparations for earthquakes is pretty much what you would do for any long term disaster. The one thing that most people don't realize is the fact that the planet goes through shifts, etc. on a cycle. But this cycle is so far apart in number of years, except the known earthquake zones, that no one was living in the area when the last quake occurred, hence no recorded. The geology of any area will reveal the geological history, but in terms of 'human memory' it was so long ago as not to be of concern to most.

The US sits on several tectonic plates that move over geological time. Right now they are stable, with geologic pressure building up from natural internal processes. We don't become aware of these internal workings until a slippage occurs that creates a earthquake. Old fault lines are thought to be 'inactive', but they are simply dormant. We all know of the fault lines in CA because they are constantly moving and shifting. But the 'inactive' ones are just as dangerous or more so because we have built on top of them with impunity and when the forces under them build up they will slip thus producing catastrophic results.

The one long term factor in earthquakes is the stability of structures afterward. It could be months or years before people could return to areas they once lived in (if the quake is localized). But if a quake is a trigger for other areas to release pressure ('inactive' fault') the consequences would be far more reaching.

If you want to prepare for l-o-n-g term earthquake disasters, your usual long term plans could be expanded a bit more to include some sort of temporary shelter (large tents, etc.) that could be set up away from buildings or other structures that crumble days later. Getting out of an earthquake area before a quake would be my best plan. But with dormant faults, you never know what would trigger a release of internal energy in that fault area. And dormant fault lines do become active. It happened in my state in a 'dormant' fault. Talk about a wake up call!

Check out the US Geological Survey fault line maps and earthquake stats. for your area. You may be surprised.

JMHO

Check this link for animations of plate tectonics. Its quite interesting. OK its from Berkley (liberal land) but the science is the same.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/geology/tectonics.html
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Old May 29, 2006, 16:46   #4
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You mean the New Madrid that is 40 miles from my house?? Yep, I've been thinking of adding some to my preparations here lately.

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(Aug. 21) -- New research shows that major earthquakes have struck southern California far more frequently than previously thought -- and the next one could be just around the corner.

The study from geologists at the University of California Irvine and Arizona State University showed that massive quakes -- of magnitude 6.5 or greater -- have hit the region's San Andreas fault line at intervals of between 45 and 144 years.

With the last major earthquake in 1857, that means Southern California is overdue a massive quake.

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Nevada Seismologists are keeping a close eye on an area southwest of Hawthorne, Nevada where hundreds of earthquakes have been detected since Sunday.
" It's a little bit concerning in a sense.. The largest earthquakes in these sequences are pretty large in size." Graham Kent is Director of Nevada Seismological Laboratory at the University of Nevada Reno. He says there have been hundreds of earthquakes southwest of Hawthorne over the past few days. The largest-- recorded at a 4.4 in size.

"These are the biggest in a sequence we've seen at least in the last couple of years." Kent says unlike the 2008 quakes in Somersett that damaged so many homes, these earthquakes are fortunately not underneath a community.
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‘Imagine America Without Los Angeles’: Expert Warns Southern California Isn’t Ready For Major Quake

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...r-major-quake/
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‘Imagine America Without Los Angeles’: Expert Warns Southern California Isn’t Ready For Major Quake

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...r-major-quake/
Cali is a strike- slip fault.... So no matter how much people wish it... No failing off into ocean.
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These folks keep track of this it appears in real time.

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California earthquake experts believe what happens at the San Gorgonio Pass during a major rupture of the San Andreas fault could have wide-ranging implications for the region and beyond.
They worry a huge quake could sever lifelines at the pass for weeks or months, cutting Southern California off from major highway and rail routes as well as sources of power, oil and gas. Southern California’s cities are surrounded by mountains, making access through narrow passes like the San Gorgonio essential.

Experts have also expressed grave concerns about the Cajon Pass, where Interstate 15 and key electric and fuel lines run. Other problem spots are the Tejon Pass, through which Interstate 5 passes, and the Palmdale area, through which the California Aqueduct crosses.
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