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Old April 19, 2017, 19:13   #1
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Aussie metal finish

whats the best home metal refinishing method/product that will get the closest to what Lithgow used in the 60's.
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Old April 19, 2017, 20:26   #2
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I have over a hundred, as of yet untouched Aussi butt stocks here.
To say they come in every shade and color under the sun is an understatement.
Got reddish ones, pinkish one, orange ones, no color ones, dark ones, light ones, and everything in between.
To get a finish like on this rifle below, just take your wood down to zero color, and add back 3 or four coats of BLO
However;
The problem you will have, is getting your pistol grip, hand guard panels, and the butt stock to match up in color and shading.
Surplus wood comes from different companies, different countries, different trees and from different times, and have all been used in various climates. Grain lines heavy on one panel, near nothing on another, then finish light on one and darker on the other, with same oil or dye.

These stocks were finished exactly the same way, but you can see the color and shading differences. This is part of a large order I did a while back.

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You want to take your wood down to this level or even lower.

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This set on one of my own rifles, is oil only.

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Old April 20, 2017, 17:57   #3
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thanks for the great reply yellowhand but I goofed up by not stating that I was looking for metal refinishing.
I am trying to match the metal finish on a 1962 L1A1
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Old April 20, 2017, 18:43   #4
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thanks for the great reply yellowhand but I goofed up by not stating that I was looking for metal refinishing.
I am trying to match the metal finish on a 1962 L1A1
Wood or metal, no biggeee!

Check out ARS and Gunplumber.
If anyone knows, it should be him.
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Old April 20, 2017, 21:31   #5
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Thanks from me too YellowHand. I always wondered how far I should try to get them taken down when soaking and cleaning wood parts. I've been cleaning up some Aussie wood as that's my next project. Have 5 short stocks, 2 pair of late laminated hGs, and 1 pistol grip. Thought I'd put together a late Aussie, as I have one of the late incomplete replacement or in process lowers. Now I'm not sure as I just got a 1959 lower which require different HGs, a wood CH, and I might as well look for a normal or long but stock while I'm at it.

ActionYobbo regarding your metal finish, I'm pretty sure it was Zinc phosphate the Aussies used, and with that date it wouldn't have any paint over it. Andy could probably tell you for sure if it was zinc or manganese they used.
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Old April 21, 2017, 00:24   #6
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I used Duracoat to match my upper receiver to the original finish lower and other parts. I sent Lauer the topcover and they used it to match and create a custom color. The match is pretty good and it was only an additional $5,

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Old April 21, 2017, 22:53   #7
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Early Aussie was manganese Parkerizing . Later ( early 70's ] was " stoving " . Stoving is black paint over fresh Parkerizing .
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I used Duracoat to match my upper receiver to the original finish lower and other parts. I sent Lauer the topcover and they used it to match and create a custom color. The match is pretty good and it was only an additional $5,

Damn fine rifle. Love your pics, always hit all the right points for me.
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Old April 22, 2017, 08:05   #9
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Best OTC finish for black I'd say is KG Gunkote, original, satin black. But is far superior to the original finish, so you might use Duracoat (or any other floor paint). Duracoat is a really crappy finish for firearms, but if you want to duplicate 70 year old technology, that's the way to go. You'll have to do a lot of masking since it can't go over moving parts.

Or just use GunKote.
Norrels is ok, too - but I rank it lower for a variety of tehnical reasons.

Ceracoat is a tough one. Good finish, but far more complicated application to end up with a functional equivalent.
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I am not looking for any kind of paint on finish. I want to do the receiver to match the kit that I have. my plan is to do (close as possible) finish and then stick it in the tumbler to age it a bit before assembly. I am not trying to get a new in a museum look.
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I am not looking for any kind of paint on finish. I want to do the receiver to match the kit that I have. my plan is to do (close as possible) finish and then stick it in the tumbler to age it a bit before assembly. I am not trying to get a new in a museum look.
This depends on which receiver you're using. A Coonan or later DSA already has that semi gloss coating that distresses nicely with fine scotchbrite and will leave areas of lesser wear with that painted look. An earlier parked DSA will have to be painted first, then "aged". I've done a few Rhodies and a G1 on Coonan and DSA receivers with the scotchbrite method and had more than a few members thinking they were the real thing. (I really like to leave the finish on the kits alone).
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This depends on which receiver you're using. A Coonan or later DSA already has that semi gloss coating that distresses nicely with fine scotchbrite and will leave areas of lesser wear with that painted look. An earlier parked DSA will have to be painted first, then "aged". I've done a few Rhodies and a G1 on Coonan and DSA receivers with the scotchbrite method and had more than a few members thinking they were the real thing. (I really like to leave the finish on the kits alone).
current finish is bare metal with some rusty fingerprints
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Old April 23, 2017, 09:04   #13
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Perhaps you should look at my page on Rhodpat, which discusses distressing.

A tumbler will do a pood job. Wear is not uniform, it is selective.

Distressing should be done on an assembled rifle.

I saw an AK yesterday by lee armory where he tried to distress the recevier to match the rest of the kit. Fail! He didn't start with the same finish that was on the rest of the parts.


https://www.arizonaresponsesystems.c...t-rhodpat.html

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't find the rhodesian parkerized distressed images - gott go, will try again on Tuesday.
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A tumbler will do a pood job....


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yep, although it also fits.
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