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Old March 15, 2017, 12:20   #101
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Getting the first set of primary joists into place was a feat, but I had to repeat the work twice more before I could move on.

I use a carpenters level once more to get the first pair aligned properly with the next post 'in'.

Finally a combination level or carpenters square is used for getting the mark along the post, around the post for the next duo to be 'in-line' so to speak.

This video explains that part in a bit more detail:



A mallet is sometimes needed to tap-tap the joists into position...



I make the same move again but this time there is no middle post, I'll have to reinforce these primary joists with logs and slab rock underneath it:



As you can see also, the secondary joists (stringers?) are shown, these are suspended by joist hangers which are nailed into place. Doing these by myself is a bit tricky though. One handed I have to get the level of the hanger it sits on at the right level...

But that is for another databurst, in future times...
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Old March 17, 2017, 18:46   #102
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The summer days are fun times for these guys, but maybe not for my logs.



The carpenter ants are out and about! They scamper across my elevated logs from the last year like highway things. I follow them to their source and find they only bother the ground logs that are rotting away anyway (I use them to keep the building logs rot-free).

The mold has set in a bit though, but the linseed oil I applied last year means it peels off pretty easily.
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Old March 17, 2017, 18:48   #103
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There may be bandwidth issues on my image hosting account so if the pictures are blank the bandwidth is low, I think it resets every month though at least.

Back to the construction. In the midst of the floor project the rainfall factor presented itself.

Watching the drip-drip from the roof onto the ground nearby only strengthened my resolve to get the drainage taken care off.

Gutters were one option, but I always had a yearning for French Drains. It's something often used for underground shelters/cabins yet is pretty old-school too.
Getting my waterproofs on and my spade and bucket, I got to work!

Digging the trench with a bed of gravel:



Perferorated pipe going in!



Tunneling through the roots here:



Adding the membrane and burying it, inspection pipe optional.



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Old March 19, 2017, 21:53   #104
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Thumbs up

The order of what takes place next important too.

The floor should be sealed in as you go along installing the secondary joists. Failing to do this will mean tunnel rat time for the entire underside. That's not too bad with a decent void or undercroft, but for only about 1' it's a real PITA.

After the first set of secondary joists were installed, tar-paper membrane hammered in I made sure to do it right for the second set.



The insulation is the pink panther stuff. R30 AFAIR.

Second set of joists now down, just needs some more pink panther treatment:



The insulation was quite bulky and it took TWO large packs of the stuff to get the floor sections filled.



Now though the pine plywood was going to go on top, I opted for the thickest stuff I could afford.

The first 4x8 sheets went down nicely in the middle area.



That was the easy-part, for EVERY other section it was a custom fit!



This really took all my skill, bloody-minded attributes and knowhow. I used a skillsaw for the big cuts and a jigsaw for the curved and semi-circular parts.

I had a joist or two that had 'crowned' up slightly too, so that had to be chased out with a wood chisel to bring to an appropriate level.

But after several weeks of toing and froing to a workshop with power and extra tools, my floor was in place!

Getting a puzzle-piece ready for fitting:







Concluding video showing the floor being put into place.

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Old March 20, 2017, 11:47   #105
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Using a portapotty under the sky gets old after a while, especially in the bad weather.

Got the outhouse built over the course of two days:





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Old March 20, 2017, 12:43   #106
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Would that be a composting toilet or chemical type? Sure looks like a deep squat is required. I'd get it up a ways.

Enjoy your new found privacy. The chipmunks are probably grateful.
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Old March 20, 2017, 16:01   #107
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Yeah, that's definitely not how we did it.

We'd dig a big hole, about 3 feet deep. Deeper if you wanted. Before building, keep a journal for a few days to see which direction the wind normally blew so you know where to put it.

Build a little house above it like you did, light enough it could be pulled and moved it you ever need to clean it or move it if you ever fill it up.

Cut a hole out in the floor, and build up a seat comfortable enough that all you have to do it sit down comfortably.

Also, our old outhouse was high society. It was a double seater.
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Old March 20, 2017, 21:55   #108
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Yeah, that's definitely not how we did it.

We'd dig a big hole, about 3 feet deep. Deeper if you wanted. Before building, keep a journal for a few days to see which direction the wind normally blew so you know where to put it.

Build a little house above it like you did, light enough it could be pulled and moved it you ever need to clean it or move it if you ever fill it up.

Cut a hole out in the floor, and build up a seat comfortable enough that all you have to do it sit down comfortably.

Also, our old outhouse was high society. It was a double seater.
I don't like that sort of outhouse, too much of a PITA and is an insect zone. A neighbor nearby did it that way. Massive hole, nice outhouse on top, but not what I prefer. I use a composting bucket underneath the actual toilet seat chair. Off to the dumping area later where a hole is dug and in it goes with helpings of sawdust on top.

The outhouse isn't finished in those pictures either, I've a door to add etc.

Here's how we got a hole-type outhouse taken care of in the Mountain Hold place my buddy lives at...


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Old March 20, 2017, 22:07   #109
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Would that be a composting toilet or chemical type? Sure looks like a deep squat is required. I'd get it up a ways.

Enjoy your new found privacy. The chipmunks are probably grateful.
I've got both, although the chemical toilets are useless in winter, even with antifreeze added. The primary use now is composting type.
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Old March 20, 2017, 22:23   #110
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Putting it together:



Here's the chair-seat in place.



I cut the legs down a few inches and have it just right.
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Old March 22, 2017, 08:40   #111
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It's time to mount up the solar panels!

You may recall that these up until now have been laying on the floor, getting what they can for my battery system.

To get them onto the roof properly requires some prep-work.

Some OSB 4x8s were cut into two halves, then I added a section to each to bring the length out to about nine feet long!

Then on top of each of the two sections I unrolled a nine foot length of galvanized steel flashing, which was screwed down onto the OSB

Here's the panel getting prepped for stick-down onto the galvanized metal surface:



Getting it stuck down wasn't easy:



I had to pre-roll it out before unsticking it from the backing. That way I knew it was going to unroll straight and perpendicular.



But stick it down I did, and soon it was time to mount the spars to the roof (I used weatherban to keep it from leaking in) and hoist the panels up!





Video Commlink established!









That's the panels up and mounted!



Power flows into the charge controller like never before and it's all internal too. Now more traipsing about to the power tent.
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What's the power rating of those panels?

A lot of tech goes into the newer (flexible) stuff. And was surprisingly efficient from what I have seen.

There was a segment a while back on a show I was watching that have a lot of military contracts powerful enough to keep several pieces of gear running.
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What's the power rating of those panels?

A lot of tech goes into the newer (flexible) stuff. And was surprisingly efficient from what I have seen.

There was a segment a while back on a show I was watching that have a lot of military contracts powerful enough to keep several pieces of gear running.
About 68 Watts or so a piece.

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Old March 27, 2017, 13:14   #114
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The walls were next!

I made up some 2x4s into a frame-wall, then osb sheets of 4x8 cut to shape.

It needed a bit of jiggery-pokery to fit, but a few weeks passed and I had walls!

The door framing and fitting the front door was a nightmare, plus it scrapped the floor too.

The side-door to the kitchen was a nicer, flusher fit though.

Here's the imagery...









Windows and tar-paper were next. These really got the place sealed in nearly.



I moved out my tent and put the cot in its place. Now I had finally moved into my cabin!



I used plenty of this stuff too:

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great thread. I live in a seasonal cabin i converted to a full time home, first thing i did was tear out the vermin metropolis in the fiberglass on the underside and replace it with sprayed closed cell foam.
Is the tar paper the only thing you have sealing your joists?
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great thread. I live in a seasonal cabin i converted to a full time home, first thing i did was tear out the vermin metropolis in the fiberglass on the underside and replace it with sprayed closed cell foam.
Is the tar paper the only thing you have sealing your joists?
Unfortunately yeah, the tar paper is what keeps the insulation from falling out etc.

Later on this year I'll probably have to work on a steel mesh of some sort.
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Unfortunately yeah, the tar paper is what keeps the insulation from falling out etc.

Later on this year I'll probably have to work on a steel mesh of some sort.
i highly recommend doing it as soon as you can, I am always amazed how fast the pests get to work.
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Unfortunately yeah, the tar paper is what keeps the insulation from falling out etc.

Later on this year I'll probably have to work on a steel mesh of some sort.
I was going to suggest that last week but you'd already had the floor put in. I think you may regret not lining your perimeter and door with hardware cloth fairly soon. Rats are very determined creatures.
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this is some serious wrk you are doing here. keep it up.
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I was going to suggest that last week but you'd already had the floor put in. I think you may regret not lining your perimeter and door with hardware cloth fairly soon. Rats are very determined creatures.
Ok, that will have to wait for a while alas.
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Some stairs and furnishings for the kitchen area.



I build the tables from 2x4s and osb 4x8s.

The door swings well and is outward-orientated. It took a lot of minor adjustments, but the fit is nice and snug, no way mice are getting under that.

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The cabin is technically complete, I can live in it BUT it needs more work.

I require a woodstove for heat, or I will freeze in the winter.

After some local deals fall through I scour craigslist and find one for sale in a nearby country.

They are only asking for the 'princely' sum of $50!!!!

At such bargain basement prices I roar off in the White Wolf before that deal eludes me!

On getting there I find an ageing Mormon couple who are returning to Mormon realms in Utah. All kinds of stuff is laying about and I choose a bench grinder as well for $5 and a tool belt, complete with Mormon verses, for free!

It takes the seller and myself to load the thing up onto the back of my pickup! Clunk! It ain't light that's for sure!

To unload it is another story. It's time to get rigging!



This is where it's gonna go!

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Installing the woodstove:

Getting the woodstove installed into my cabin was another major challenge.

Lifting it and mounting it onto the cabin floor was not straightforward.

I asked a friend and neighbor to help lift it and together we walked the massive thing to my doorway. With an effort that I will never forget we raised the stove and had it over onto the bricks.

I'd already reinforced the underside of the cabin floor so had little fear of the floor collapsing. Next up was getting hold of the stovepipe, ceiling insert, triple-wall interface etc. I got some of the stuff for free, which saved me a fortune. Nevertheless it was about another $60 for the piping etc.

Knocking a hole in a perfectly good roof was a bit of a kicker in some ways. Plus getting the mis-matched parts to fit was another chore. But despite a leak or two at first I had my woodstove sealed up and working well.







The sealant goop reeked to the heavens but I got it to gloop the rain out after a few goes.

Now it's time to fire it up and see if it burns my cabin down! LOL
Here's the video of getting it installed.

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Nice to get this going in the cold weather.

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Gotta keep the wood high and dry, so it's time to throw a woodshed together!

Logs are out and up, concreted in and ready:











How many cords I wonder?



That should last me the winter with a few top ups.
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full time use? That looks like 2 (tops) cord.
I go through 5 cord hard wood every winter,
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Yeah get more wood. You can survive a lot if you have water and warmth.

That looked like a pretty big stove. Big enough to cook you out of the cabin. Make small fires.

Looks like you can heat the place with kindling. That will take a bunch of splitting.
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Bit more to top her up and some split too!

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Everything looks pretty good, just a few things I would've done differently.

I would have taken the stove pipe and run it out the side wall rather than threw the roof. It may have cost more for the elbows but there's a lot less risk of a leak doing it that way.

I second the comment about protecting the insulation from the likes of squirrels, rats, mice, etc.

I would have done the floor/posts differently, but everyone has an opinion.
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Hi Grump!

Yeah the option for doing that with the stove was a thought but the extra length gives off more heat and is 'old school'
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Just be careful about your stove getting your electrical panel too hot. Breakers will trip and refuse to stay closed if too they're exposed to too much ambient heat.
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That looks pretty awesome, but I don't see your satellite dish? How are you going to watch the Stanley cup playoffs?
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There's all the free porn on the internet to consider too.

Gotta keep those batteries charged.
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There's all the free porn on the internet to consider too.

Gotta keep those batteries charged.
I don't do the porn thing, that's too degenerate and scummy these days. Besides it drains the energy reserves...
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That looks pretty awesome, but I don't see your satellite dish? How are you going to watch the Stanley cup playoffs?
My cabin won't have one of those things if you paid me. Phone-transfer data for the lucky laptop will be the data-streaming method of choice.
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Just be careful about your stove getting your electrical panel too hot. Breakers will trip and refuse to stay closed if too they're exposed to too much ambient heat.
I've had that fire really roaring in the stove but the breaker box has been fine. The heat never gets too bad where they are.
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Now for several months I've been bothered by the fact my kitchen is not enclosed and en-doored! Each time I leave the side door at night to do things the risk of a big fluffy thing being there dances around my head etc. So it's time to take care of business.

I scored some free 4x6s and 8x8 timbers from a highway depot. I make some marks and prep it for sawmilling:






Now it's time to get the sawmill fired up for some advanced sawmilling!



For those that won't or can't see the video, here's the result!

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The first post hole is a breeze, but the second is a real labor-intensive grind.

I have a massive boulder to lift out, it required lifting equipment and my cross-log as an anchor point. After a few hours after first striking it the beast is lifted clear:







Then I char and sink in the posts, one of which I mill flat on one side for mounting the door.



This is how I attached the cross-beam onto the two posts:



That's the doorway, but it needs walling in too!

Hope you are enjoying the adventure folks. Chime in saying what you think so far!
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