Rapid Disassembly

STGThndr · June 17, 2012, 17:47

Can someone address the issue raised by some of the Glock .45 exploding? I hear rumors of this but am not finding any real info.. like, did Glock recall these, or is the alleged problem fixed by an aftermarket NON-polygon barrel? The local PD here issued the .45 Glock maybe 20 years ago and got rid of it (twas said) over the issue of possible detonations. The other side of that MAY have been that lead-handloads couldnt be used for cheap range-time.. Was the problem sovled by the time 3rd generation came around?
Ive done a lot of research since I wrote the above.. read a lot of ads and other glock-oriented stuff. the ka-booms were due to unsupported case heads. I checked mine with a standard hardball and it slips in right to the extractor ring. It appears that many claim to reload, some using lead, others using plated bullets.

**** Ive looked at the number of replacement springs and recoil rods.. standard weight is 17lbs, might want to lift that to 20lbs.The replacement guide rods are stainless instead of the cheesy looking plastic. There are several makes and types of barrels which use standard rifling and are a bit heftier in the chamber area..
Any other useful suggestions for aftermarketing parts?*****

kotengu · June 19, 2012, 22:14

The only way I can address it is to tell you I have a model 30 with about 5,000 rds through it, and it's never had a problem. Anything other than that would just be spreading internet rumors.

I'm happy enough with the Glock in .45 ACP that I've been threatening to buy a model 21 just to play with a full-size pistol more. My only reason for not doing so is then I would have one more mouth to feed...

STGThndr · June 20, 2012, 03:03

Kotengu, I dunno about "spreading internet rumors"... there is a LOT on the Glocks, including documented kabooms of the .45s. I am aware that Glock says "only store-bought, jacketed" ammo should be used and one explanation is that lead builds up in the polygon bores and pressures rise, eventually causing the big bang... Tho Im not sure what that would have to do with jacketed reloads. The local PD got rid of their Glocks 15-20 years ago over the possiblity of problems, and the warranty voided when they used their own in-house reloads.. in other words.. money!
Anyhow I have a Glock 21, like it and would like to reload for it, but am seriously considering trading in off on an XD or XDm, as Ive not heard of any problems with them and guys that have them love em.... Previously I have been a 1911 and BHP guy, but Im likin these tupperware guns too...only took me 20-25 years to get with the program.

**308bolt** · June 20, 2012, 08:54

I reload using plated bullets and have had no issues.
A friend of mine shoots a full auto 9mm, does the same and has had no issues.
If you want to shoot unplated lead bullets I'd suggest you check your bore more frequently to see if there really is an issue.
My S&W 25-2 built up lead in the forcing cone using unplated bullets and I got tired of cleaning it out so went to plated.
There's also a rumor that using a retention holster with a Glock causes "Glock Toe" but I suspect stupidity is the real cause.
I have Serpa for my 30 and have undamaged toes.

**308bolt** · June 20, 2012, 10:33

There is a variety of Glock barrels if you intend to shoot lead and are concerned.

http://glockstore.com/index/2/

jerry704 · June 20, 2012, 11:46

The only kabooms i know of were all ammo related. Such as over pressured by double powder drops or using commercial reloaded ammo that had worn out brass. I know alot of people that reload for their glocks for idpa comp. and even use lead bullets, though the load just enough powder to function reliable
In my opinion use new commercial ammo and you should never have a problem. If you do want to reload for a glock then know what you are doing and inspect your brass well.

Right Side Up · June 20, 2012, 15:27

I you look at the breech end of a .45 caliber Glock barrel you can see where it is thin where the feed ramp is in two corners. I used to have that pic, I'll see if I can find it.

Tonk · June 29, 2012, 13:51

I don't worry about my Glocks "blowing up" with my reloads or any factory ammo! I run stainless steel barrels on all of our Glocks and do shoot lead bullets a bunch also. The Bar-Sto barrel produces 2 inches or better size shot groups at 20 yards of 60 ft. My wifes Glocks are also staineless steel and much more accurate at 15 yards than the standard Glock factory barrel. He pistol also has night sights and a 3-lb trigger pull. They are simply wonderful pistols for CCW!

**W.E.G.** · June 29, 2012, 13:59

Noooooooo!!!... not the Glock!!!

**Bug Tussell** · June 29, 2012, 19:21

Get an FNP45 and be happy.

0302 · June 30, 2012, 11:14

i use reloads w plated bullets & factory ammo in my g27, no problems. my reloads are in the middle of the powder loads. my next glock is likely a .45 or 10mm

**brunop** · June 30, 2012, 11:59

Any firearm that can't handle "reloads" is a crappy firearm. And like them or not, Glocks aren't crap. I shoot factory and reloads, and never keep track of which is which.

Ball ammo - no lead in my case.

homelandprotector · July 01, 2012, 03:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bug Tussell

Get an FNP45 and be happy.

I had one and it was a jambOmatic, was so disgusted with it I traded it for a Glock 35 and never looked back

**Bug Tussell** · July 01, 2012, 07:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by homelandprotector

I had one and it was a jambOmatic, was so disgusted with it I traded it for a Glock 35 and never looked back

Both of mine work fine. Don't ask me how I wound up with two... anyways, the FNP needs a manly grip and doesn't like limp wristers or flinchers

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I went with the FNP because of the hi cap and the broach rifling and the FN reputation. I wanted broach rifling for shooting cast reloads which is pretty much all I feed them. I have some Glocks but don't shoot reloads in them.

kotengu · July 02, 2012, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by STGThndr

Kotengu, I dunno about "spreading internet rumors"... there is a LOT on the Glocks, including documented kabooms of the .45s.

Not saying it doesn't happen - just that the only personal experience I have is that they run perfectly. If I comment on something I don't have personal experience with I'm just repeating what I've read/heard somewhere else. That is the definition of a rumor.

Out of that 5,000 rds through mine, by the way, about 4,900 are reloads. Never lead, always plated or jacketd - but reloads the same.

June 17, 2012, 17:47	#1
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,409	Rapid Disassembly Can someone address the issue raised by some of the Glock .45 exploding? I hear rumors of this but am not finding any real info.. like, did Glock recall these, or is the alleged problem fixed by an aftermarket NON-polygon barrel? The local PD here issued the .45 Glock maybe 20 years ago and got rid of it (twas said) over the issue of possible detonations. The other side of that MAY have been that lead-handloads couldnt be used for cheap range-time.. Was the problem sovled by the time 3rd generation came around? Ive done a lot of research since I wrote the above.. read a lot of ads and other glock-oriented stuff. the ka-booms were due to unsupported case heads. I checked mine with a standard hardball and it slips in right to the extractor ring. It appears that many claim to reload, some using lead, others using plated bullets. ** Ive looked at the number of replacement springs and recoil rods.. standard weight is 17lbs, might want to lift that to 20lbs.The replacement guide rods are stainless instead of the cheesy looking plastic. There are several makes and types of barrels which use standard rifling and are a bit heftier in the chamber area.. Any other useful suggestions for aftermarketing parts?*** __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats Last edited by STGThndr; June 21, 2012 at 09:35. Reason: clarity

June 19, 2012, 22:14	#2
kotengu Registered FALaholic #: 1594 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Baxter, TN, USA Posts: 3,064	The only way I can address it is to tell you I have a model 30 with about 5,000 rds through it, and it's never had a problem. Anything other than that would just be spreading internet rumors. I'm happy enough with the Glock in .45 ACP that I've been threatening to buy a model 21 just to play with a full-size pistol more. My only reason for not doing so is then I would have one more mouth to feed... __________________ "The way is in training." - Miyamoto Musashi

June 20, 2012, 03:03	#3
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,409	Kotengu, I dunno about "spreading internet rumors"... there is a LOT on the Glocks, including documented kabooms of the .45s. I am aware that Glock says "only store-bought, jacketed" ammo should be used and one explanation is that lead builds up in the polygon bores and pressures rise, eventually causing the big bang... Tho Im not sure what that would have to do with jacketed reloads. The local PD got rid of their Glocks 15-20 years ago over the possiblity of problems, and the warranty voided when they used their own in-house reloads.. in other words.. money! Anyhow I have a Glock 21, like it and would like to reload for it, but am seriously considering trading in off on an XD or XDm, as Ive not heard of any problems with them and guys that have them love em.... Previously I have been a 1911 and BHP guy, but Im likin these tupperware guns too...only took me 20-25 years to get with the program. __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats

June 20, 2012, 08:54	#4
308bolt Heathen Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 19255 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,002	I reload using plated bullets and have had no issues. A friend of mine shoots a full auto 9mm, does the same and has had no issues. If you want to shoot unplated lead bullets I'd suggest you check your bore more frequently to see if there really is an issue. My S&W 25-2 built up lead in the forcing cone using unplated bullets and I got tired of cleaning it out so went to plated. There's also a rumor that using a retention holster with a Glock causes "Glock Toe" but I suspect stupidity is the real cause. I have Serpa for my 30 and have undamaged toes. __________________ "The bandwagons rumble past. I sit here on the curb," ~ John Hartford ~ "Nil desperandum, -- Never Despair. That is a motto for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it." ~ Samuel Adams ~ Last edited by 308bolt; June 20, 2012 at 09:00.

June 20, 2012, 10:33	#5
308bolt Heathen Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 19255 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,002	There is a variety of Glock barrels if you intend to shoot lead and are concerned. http://glockstore.com/index/2/ __________________ "The bandwagons rumble past. I sit here on the curb," ~ John Hartford ~ "Nil desperandum, -- Never Despair. That is a motto for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it." ~ Samuel Adams ~

June 20, 2012, 11:46	#6
jerry704 Registered FALaholic #: 62933 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: gastonia Posts: 443	The only kabooms i know of were all ammo related. Such as over pressured by double powder drops or using commercial reloaded ammo that had worn out brass. I know alot of people that reload for their glocks for idpa comp. and even use lead bullets, though the load just enough powder to function reliable In my opinion use new commercial ammo and you should never have a problem. If you do want to reload for a glock then know what you are doing and inspect your brass well.

June 20, 2012, 15:27	#7
Right Side Up Registered FALaholic #: 43 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 2,554	I you look at the breech end of a .45 caliber Glock barrel you can see where it is thin where the feed ramp is in two corners. I used to have that pic, I'll see if I can find it. __________________ It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." ---Chief Justice Roberts. Last edited by Right Side Up; June 20, 2012 at 15:33.

June 29, 2012, 13:51	#8
Tonk Registered FALaholic #: 50336 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Missouri or Arkansas Posts: 49	I don't worry about my Glocks "blowing up" with my reloads or any factory ammo! I run stainless steel barrels on all of our Glocks and do shoot lead bullets a bunch also. The Bar-Sto barrel produces 2 inches or better size shot groups at 20 yards of 60 ft. My wifes Glocks are also staineless steel and much more accurate at 15 yards than the standard Glock factory barrel. He pistol also has night sights and a 3-lb trigger pull. They are simply wonderful pistols for CCW! __________________ Thank a Veteran for your Freedom! " GOD BLESS AMERICA "

June 29, 2012, 13:59	#9
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,055	Noooooooo!!!... not the Glock!!! __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

June 29, 2012, 19:21	#10
Bug Tussell Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2872 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rusticating USA Posts: 2,428	Get an FNP45 and be happy. __________________ Make your time

June 30, 2012, 11:14	#11
0302 Registered FALaholic #: 348 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 3,691	i use reloads w plated bullets & factory ammo in my g27, no problems. my reloads are in the middle of the powder loads. my next glock is likely a .45 or 10mm

June 30, 2012, 11:59	#12
brunop Refresh Key Masher Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 17136 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 6,475	Any firearm that can't handle "reloads" is a crappy firearm. And like them or not, Glocks aren't crap. I shoot factory and reloads, and never keep track of which is which. Ball ammo - no lead in my case. __________________ "I love you, Pluskat..." - brunop "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson "The constitutions of most of our states [and of the United States] assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom of the press." - Thomas Jefferson

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