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Old November 22, 2017, 08:39   #1
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Congress Passes bill for CMP 1911's! Woot!

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/1...1-pistols-cmp/

Gotta get one, I hope mine has flakes of dried Nazi blood on it.
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Old November 22, 2017, 08:50   #2
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I bet they'll look like this though...

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Old November 22, 2017, 09:08   #3
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That would be okay too what a story that would have to tell
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Old November 22, 2017, 09:14   #4
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Thats poor bastard that carried that got an 8mm right where you dont want one.
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Old November 22, 2017, 09:43   #5
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No kidding. I'd prefer something I could shoot, obviously.

But that's a neat chunk of history. I'd want to find out who got shot carrying it though.
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Old November 22, 2017, 10:13   #6
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I bet they'll look like this though...

Nope, there were some pictures posted a while ago from someone that inspected the first batch of 2000 of the pistols and they looked really good plus there were some rare pistols in the batch from the WW1 era.

But interestingly there is a series of Youtube vids from a guy that found a rusted up 1911 in ditch that had clearly been there for a long, long time and used electrolysis and other methods to gradually restore the pistol over 2 years and it looked rough but shot fine.
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Thats poor bastard that carried that got an 8mm right where you dont want one.
Going through that much steel may have made it a non-fatal wound, however.
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Old November 22, 2017, 20:58   #8
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When they get to the CMP the best ones will go to the Auction section where Millionaires can out bid each other way past what we commoners can afford !!

The next better batch will be picked over many times By the ""Select Few Friends"" Like the top dogs at the Grand collectors assoc.

The mismatched and Sloppy seconds will be offered to We the common trash people at prices Exceeding what a New Ruger can be had for !!

If they get a batch of Brand new Barrels etc they will sell them Tuesday AM for 10$ bucks each Buy as many as you Like in one shot with your master card NO Limit so when the rest of us get Home they will be all gone -But Cheer up you will still be able to get one off the web for $150.00 from the guy who bought 75 of them that morning !!! And That my friends is How its going to go with the CMP!!!
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Old November 23, 2017, 13:34   #9
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When they get to the CMP the best ones will go to the Auction section where Millionaires can out bid each other way past what we commoners can afford !!

The next better batch will be picked over many times By the ""Select Few Friends"" Like the top dogs at the Grand collectors assoc.

The mismatched and Sloppy seconds will be offered to We the common trash people at prices Exceeding what a New Ruger can be had for !!

If they get a batch of Brand new Barrels etc they will sell them Tuesday AM for 10$ bucks each Buy as many as you Like in one shot with your master card NO Limit so when the rest of us get Home they will be all gone -But Cheer up you will still be able to get one off the web for $150.00 from the guy who bought 75 of them that morning !!! And That my friends is How its going to go with the CMP!!!
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Old November 23, 2017, 14:13   #10
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$150 was what they sold for in 1982, came from non commie china with a shot out barrel, still have it.
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Well, if they're that much, then I'll just stick with my ca. 1918 Colt with original finish. I got it from the guy who carried it.


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I have a friend that's been drooling for one of these ever since it was announce over a year ago or more.

I think he's going to be disappointed.
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That damaged .45 made the rounds of the M1911 forums a few years ago.

Happened on Iwo Jima. The Marine who was wearing it was shot through the wrist and the bullet continued on into the pistol, through the holster, then gave him another wound in his leg.
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When they get to the CMP the best ones will go to the Auction section where Millionaires can out bid each other way past what we commoners can afford !!

The next better batch will be picked over many times By the ""Select Few Friends"" Like the top dogs at the Grand collectors assoc.

The mismatched and Sloppy seconds will be offered to We the common trash people at prices Exceeding what a New Ruger can be had for !!

If they get a batch of Brand new Barrels etc they will sell them Tuesday AM for 10$ bucks each Buy as many as you Like in one shot with your master card NO Limit so when the rest of us get Home they will be all gone -But Cheer up you will still be able to get one off the web for $150.00 from the guy who bought 75 of them that morning !!! And That my friends is How its going to go with the CMP!!!

I would just go buy a new one or see what the LGS had on consignment.
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Remember the first 2000 that were looked at last year, they actually looked to be in great condition with some nice rarities from the WW1 era. Back in the 1990's a lot of the junk ones were melted down and the good ones kept.
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Great news I'll probably get me a couple.
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Old December 05, 2017, 12:27   #17
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When they get to the CMP the best ones will go to the Auction section where Millionaires can out bid each other way past what we commoners can afford !!

The next better batch will be picked over many times By the ""Select Few Friends"" Like the top dogs at the Grand collectors assoc.

The mismatched and Sloppy seconds will be offered to We the common trash people at prices Exceeding what a New Ruger can be had for !!

If they get a batch of Brand new Barrels etc they will sell them Tuesday AM for 10$ bucks each Buy as many as you Like in one shot with your master card NO Limit so when the rest of us get Home they will be all gone -But Cheer up you will still be able to get one off the web for $150.00 from the guy who bought 75 of them that morning !!! And That my friends is How its going to go with the CMP!!!
THIS. Then the old bastards will put them on a gun show table at a hefty increase. They say you will only get one, and that's done by lottery, but we will see.
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The latest from the CMP is submit all new documentation (shooting club affiliate, course/class proof), pass (2) two NICS checks (one at CMP, one at your receiving FFL), signed FFL BATF documentation, buyer-postage mail request on a certain date, no sooner, that gets put into a random drawing/ lottery, first 10,000 only will be allowed, then one pistol per person for one calendar year.
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Ya beat me to it.

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To all CMP constituents:

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions further clarified:

Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
A NICS background check will be performed by CMP on the customer to assure the customer is eligible to purchase prior to shipment to the FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a "proceed" from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer.
The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person at the FFL dealers place of business, successfully passing a NICS check performed by the FFL holder, before the pistol can be transferred. This is a second NICS check performed on the customer.
Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.
Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.


Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a "store front" FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one performed by CMP and the other performed by the FFL dealer the pistol is being shipped to.
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Yup, picked over to death.

C&R's will not be accepted. You will be NICS'ed not once but twice; once when you order, and the next when it shows up at your dealers place.

Phuck'em.

They are pandering to the politically correct.
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Glad CMP is getting them.
Good for precedent and good for history.
Fun for aficionados and will be fun to watch.
Hopefully some AMU match conditioned pistols (or others) will show themselves.
Will I participate? No.

I miss $400 M1 rifles and heaps of M14 parts available from DCM/CMP.
Remember all the Mossberg M44's?
I remember when the M1 price went up to $450 and people were aghast.

Good luck to any of youse guys that get into the *lottery*
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I am a lawyer and experienced at reading lots of redundant bureaucratic crap but that made my head spin. Screw that, I wouldn't even attempt to kiss that much ass. Apparently someone forgot to tell the CMP that the country is awash in cut rate Turkish and inexpensive Armscor 1911s, and that every American gunmaker ever known is cranking them out as well.
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CMP has been s#!t since Orest retired.
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i will just buy another walther & skip the b.s.
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Local auction has 4 coming up, 2 Colts an RR and an Ithaca. At least I can hold them in my hand and decide what I might want to spend on them before hand. I thought about jumping through some hoops for a CMP one, but I agree, phuckem. My ex-USMC M45A1 netted out at $845 out of my pocket, I am happy.

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I am a lawyer and experienced at reading lots of redundant bureaucratic crap but that made my head spin. Screw that, I wouldn't even attempt to kiss that much ass. Apparently someone forgot to tell the CMP that the country is awash in cut rate Turkish and inexpensive Armscor 1911s, and that every American gunmaker ever known is cranking them out as well.
Well, since they're dealing with pistols instead of long arms, they have a whole different set of laws to jump through, and they can't dodge around them since they're not part of the Army like the old DCM.

That said, I agree...I'll be happy with what I have.
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I've had a Colt M1911 circa 1917 since 1987! in a private sale.
It only cost me a $100 bucks.

While I'd like to get a WWII model, if I don't I won't lose any sleep
over it since I've already got the original one!
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There's been a couple more emails from CMP with various changes and comments.

I won't bother posting them, because they don't seem to have their crap together and are over-eager to give out information before they even have the pistols in house.

And I expect another email in another day or two from them with more 'clarifications'.
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