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Old November 14, 2017, 22:29   #51
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If you're still adding to the sheet then I'm in. And those stages sound fantastic. Especially loving the longer range stuff.
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Old November 14, 2017, 22:37   #52
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Old November 15, 2017, 00:46   #53
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Super keen to do this. Can't wait for March!

And the stages sound like a ton of fun. Love the resurrection of the 'Blackhawk Down!' stage.
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Stage 1 will be a miniature recreation of the infamous 'Blackhawk down' stage we ran at a FAL match years ago. Expect to be uncomfortably situated in an enclosed space and have to make 8 pistol shots (12-20feet) followed by 12 rifle shots at 50 yards. Practising kneeling and sitting positions would be a good idea.

Stage 2 will be fired from the beautific 600 yard firing line on RBGCs amazing Highpower range. You'll need to make 3 hits on a full size torso target at 300 yards, then 3 more hits on a torso target at 400 yards, and finally a single hit on a torso target at 600 yards. This is also the highest point on the course...of course.

Stage 3 "Charge!" will have 8 rifle shots on 8"wx14"t steel at 100 yards followed by 12 pistol hits on paper targets appearing as you move forward from the rifle position after clearing your rifle.

Stage 4 "Going in blind" Will be 4 targets shot twice each to neutralize but watch out for the no shoots everywhere.

Stage 5 "Body armor" is an option rifle stage at close range. You have 5 bad guys in armor, so single head shots or double-tapped A-zones to nuetralize.
My questions are as follows, and are informed by imagining I'm viewing these descriptions through my 16 year old son's eyes...

1. Enter the helicopter (seated or kneeling) and then drawing any handgun = could be covering lots of important body parts. Do you imagine that participants will:

a) pull rifle off of back and show clear

b) 'stow' rifle near helicopter or in helicopter

c) draw handgun and enter helicopter?

Help me understand the participant 'progression' through this stage.


2. Got it. Shoot bad guys. Unlimited number of shots on 600 yard guy - or is this a 'One Shot' deal?

3. Got it. Assuming a guy can kneel or do whatever he needs to get the rifle hits at 100. Clear rifle, sling, and move forward.

4. Rifle or pistol?

5. Got it.
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Old November 15, 2017, 01:10   #55
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And are you cool with either:

a) Jonathan and I running this together as ROs, or

b) Jonathan running this (no weapons) along side me on Friday, and then running it himself as participant / competitor on Saturday while I'm doing RO duties?

I think my first choice is 'A' if that is cool with you. I'd like to be there to watch on his first-ever run.
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My questions are as follows, and are informed by imagining I'm viewing these descriptions through my 16 year old son's eyes...

1. Enter the helicopter (seated or kneeling) and then drawing any handgun = could be covering lots of important body parts. Do you imagine that participants will:

a) pull rifle off of back and show clear

b) 'stow' rifle near helicopter or in helicopter

c) draw handgun and enter helicopter?

Help me understand the participant 'progression' through this stage.

Rifle will be shown clear on arrival and placed in 'da choppa'.
Pistol will be shown clear and also placed in 'da choppa' (I will add a box to the setup to provide consistency)

Shoot pistol target til down, all must be shot before proceeding to rifle. Pistol goes in box.
Load rifle and engage rifle targets.
Clear rifle.
Clear pistol.



2. Got it. Shoot bad guys. Unlimited number of shots on 600 yard guy - or is this a 'One Shot' deal? No limit...no Louis mag-dumps either though.

3. Got it. Assuming a guy can kneel or do whatever he needs to get the rifle hits at 100. Clear rifle, sling, and move forward. Rifle will be cleared before moving forward, correct.

4. Rifle or pistol? Pistol

5. Got it.
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a) Jonathan and I running this together as ROs, or
I also prefer A, thanks!
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If you're still adding to the sheet then I'm in. And those stages sound fantastic. Especially loving the longer range stuff.
I thought you were already on the list.

Or maybe you were in the 'fickle' column and now moving to 'firm'?
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Old November 15, 2017, 13:32   #59
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I thought you were already on the list.

Or maybe you were in the 'fickle' column and now moving to 'firm'?
Yeah, lets go with the second one. I was in the fickle, but I'm gonna go ahead and commit to doing this. I'll work it out with the wife. I may end up doing the dishes for the next 10 years for all the RnGs I wanna do.
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My household is stoked. Can't wait.


Yes to all the "cleared" and "staged" weapons in 'da choppa'.
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OMG, da Choppa is back. Hope everybody has hard cover for their noggin?
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OMG, da Choppa is back. Hope everybody has hard cover for their noggin?
When you said you were coming to RO it all suddenly made sense.
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This is so exciting. I've been hearing of this helo stage for a few years, can't wait to bump my head!

Hey Stimp, in context it ain't all that great I supose but I dig how it sounds.

The "Louis mag dump". Hahahaha!

It was just that one time. My first time at a match, I may have been a bit exited.

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...The "Louis mag dump". Hahahaha!...It was just that one time. My first time at a match, I may have been a bit exited....
At least the magazine stayed in this time!
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At least the magazine stayed in this time!


Least my rifal's go home in one piece.
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...Least my rifal's go home in one piece.


...RiFAL was all in one piece (until DSA took it back apart for me)! Moses Mag on the other hand, well we all saw how that ended up.

Luv it!!! These be the times we sit around the fire remembering. Sort of like "Service Blouses" in a cave!!!
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Hey Stimp, in context it ain't all that great I supose but I dig how it sounds.
????
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Post 56 man, in red.
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Post 56 man, in red.
It'll make sense when we get there.

Heck, last time I made shooters lie down in a morass of spent 308 brass and shotshells and jump up on the beep.

This time I think we 'go' from kneeling or sitting in the choppa with pistol loaded and at a low ready.
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You forgot to add "sort through that pile for the live shotgun rounds so you could load and fire"

You might want to bring back the clays for an added up close challenge. Says the guy who isn't going to be shooting at them, heh heh.
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You might want to bring back the clays for an added up close challenge.
There will be close pistol steel to deal with.
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What is the itinerary going to be? R/O's shoot on Friday and the rest of the wild children on Saturday? Just checking so I can start planning reservations and such.
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What is the itinerary going to be? R/O's shoot on Friday and the rest of the wild children on Saturday? Just checking so I can start planning reservations and such.
Exactly so.
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We just got another sponsor!

TAB GEAR will be sponsoring the match.

These guys make the biathlon slings I am always recommending for these types of runs (or long walk hunting).

Buy one for this match, or maybe win one at the match...win-win!
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Very happy to announce that NightForce Optics has signed on to sponsor the 600 yard stage!

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And now Thunder Beast Arms has come on as a sponsor!

How about a couple of half priced cans from this maker?

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I guess it's safe to assume everyone will be shooting optics?
Some lunatic(s) will do this with irons. (I had a dollar on you)

And some equally unhinged person(s) will try it with a 5moa red dot.
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Some lunatic(s) will do this with irons. (I had a dollar on you)

And some equally unhinged person(s) will try it with a 5moa red dot.
You say unhinged like its a bad thing
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Two of my rifles will have irons. The third may or may not have an optic. Uhhh, I'm not sure where that puts me.
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You say unhinged like its a bad thing
I do not judge my shooters on their decisions of what rifle to shoot.

I am merely a shepherd, trying to keep them safe.

I do, however, have the utmost respect for those that choose their weapon based on faith, rather than numbers.

But in the end, it only matters that they are here, competing.

Magic socks, this calibre vs that, semi vs bolt, perfect reloads, how they trained...yes...tell me the story of how you came here...it's my favorite part of the match.
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Two of my rifles will have irons. The third may or may not have an optic. Uhhh, I'm not sure where that puts me.
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Is that rope thing making an appearance at either Matt's or Stimpy's match in March? And if it is, are we going to do it like that, or are we going to be wearing gear + guns?


I think Jonathan and I are going to run in the 'Unhinged' category for Stimpy's thing. FALs and Forty-Fives. It's 5K, right? Just the right amount of running to use my favorite-est guns.

Plus, my Les Baer Commander is still pissed that I got us DQed at River Bend, so I owe it a run through the course.
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Is that rope thing making an appearance at either Matt's or Stimpy's match in March? And if it is, are we going to do it like that, or are we going to be wearing gear + guns?
With gear and guns, like this: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...=419222&page=3

But only if you do the 10k in Kentucky. Unless Bruce steals the idea and does it in Georgia too.

I'm just cross-pollinating match threads because Kelly's video fit the conversation!
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I do not judge my shooters on their decisions of what rifle to shoot.

I am merely a shepherd, trying to keep them safe.

I do, however, have the utmost respect for those that choose their weapon based on faith, rather than numbers.

But in the end, it only matters that they are here, competing.

Magic socks, this calibre vs that, semi vs bolt, perfect reloads, how they trained...yes...tell me the story of how you came here...it's my favorite part of the match.
It seems that whenever I tell "normal" people about these run & guns - I get some really strange looks. I mean heck...even when I tell gun friends about it they usually tell me I'm crazy.

So I am led to believe that all of us run & gunners are a little unhinged to a certain extent. For some, the hinge pin is just starting to back out a little bit. You know, that little gap you get between the pin and the knuckle where it just starts to groan a bit. For others, the pin is further out, so the door opens and closes a little crookedly. And the rest of us, well the pin fell out a long time ago and we're just wide open by default now

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I'd be down for that too. It seems wrong to entertain the thought of any other riFAL at a match Stimp is MD'ing anyway.
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It seems wrong to entertain the thought of any other riFAL at a match Stimp is MD'ing anyway.
Damn - you know how to make a guy feel bad! I'll commit to this: if I can get my FAL shooting 4 MOA or less I'll shoot it. There are just so many matches and work between now and then I'm not sure I'll get to it. Feel free to pile on the AR10 shaming if I don't.
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Damn - you know how to make a guy feel bad! I'll commit to this: if I can get my FAL shooting 4 MOA or less I'll shoot it. There are just so many matches and work between now and then I'm not sure I'll get to it. Feel free to pile on the AR10 shaming if I don't.
Oh you'll get no shaming over the poodle shooters from me (that's TK's job). I've been converted to the wonder that is modern technology this year, courtesy of my buddy who eventually wore me down. But stimp is like the Holy FAL-ther (see what I did there), it just feels wrong to show up before him with a soulless rifle
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But stimp is like the Holy FAL-ther (see what I did there), it just feels wrong to show up before him with a soulless rifle
I am at best an itinerant priest.

But shooting a FAL when...unnecessary...does increase your odds of passing the narrow gate, in my estimation.
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