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Old February 04, 2013, 01:49   #51
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Vandal,

The work remains impressive. I am not ignorant of the extent of your efforts. It is a princely gift to share the results of your time with us. I don't think it is in your best interest to publish it before production, but, I am glad of it anyway.

Blain,

I STILL shoot, and that in winter. Just these days I tend to use a scope for the ranges you have mentioned. My scopes are nothing fancy, I prefer my Leupold fixed 4x, but, I have never had a problem with them in cold weather. Even when in Michigan's upper peninsula, not that the U.P. really offers long range opportunities.

Yes, I am older and turning to tech to make the same shots. But, even though I am older I am still comfortable carrying a heavier rifle than a poodle shooting WOO for longer range shots.

It is my hope that Vandal continues his work, eventually when I don't care to carry a heavier rifle, I can easily imagine shifting to a 6.5grendel WOO upper instead. I am not there yet. But, I am old enough to acknowledge what is coming and to plan what I will do to compensate. I don't yet have a CZ 527. I will when 6.5g becomes an option.

I am older, slower, meaner and more experienced than I used to be. I still shoot, even in cold weather, and am yet able to lug a scoped .308 around. I just now appreciate a little rail space without feeling a need to fill it all.

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Old February 04, 2013, 02:18   #52
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Regarding the bayonet lug, The Galil .308 had a longer barrel and the lug was a separate piece. This is because it needed to be placed in front of the gas block in the correct location to actually engage the bayonet.

If you really require it Apex gun parts sells them.

I am now wondering what a longer barreled WOO could look like.

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Old February 04, 2013, 09:13   #53
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A rifleman should be able to engage targets in field positions out to 500 yards.

We don't have anymore riflemen. Just tacticool ninja want to bes.
Off topic, but I have a piece of unfortunate news to anyone who appreciates real marksmanship:

the Marine Corps boot camp is now moving (if they haven't done so already) to all ACOGs... IN BASIC TRAINING.

Which means that even if they gloss over the fundamentals of iron-sight marksmanship, none of the recruits are going to give a flying phuck because that is not what they are using to qualify.

I take loads of pride in my ability to consistently accurately put rounds on target with irons...

Just a sad bit of news. And while Trijicon ACOGs don't use batteries, If all you ever learn to shoot on is a 4x optic, you are useless to me.
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Old February 06, 2013, 15:46   #54
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Barrel added. And a bayo lug for Blain.
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Old February 08, 2013, 00:04   #55
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I noticed the QC swivel socket on the lower...nice touch.
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Old February 08, 2013, 00:29   #56
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I noticed the QC swivel socket on the lower...nice touch.
That's actually not a QC, although it could easily be replaced by one. I'm modeling a MaxII which has a non-QC swivel in that location. This hole is missing entirely on the DR's since they attach the rear of the sling to the butthole stock instead.

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Old February 09, 2013, 11:11   #57
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id make it qc just so there are less new desighned parts that need to be fabricated when there are good parts out there all ready made. i do like the bayonet lug (what can i say never use it but its fun to have just to piss of the we hate EBR crowd)
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Old February 21, 2013, 19:08   #58
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I have been working on getting a us made woo in production I have a shop that is willing to do all the milling I just need to come up with funds and get my manufacturing lic if I might be looking for partners fyi
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Old October 01, 2015, 22:17   #59
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I know that this is a pretty old thread to resurrect, but here goes....

I originally modeled the k2 because I was thinking of moving back to CA and the Woo is banned by name, so making myself an off-list lower would have let me bring it. After modeling the lower, I decided to just model the whole damn rifle, because, why not? This was a full-on reverse-engineering effort, so dimensions were figured out to the original spec, I didn't just use measurements from a single example since that can lead you pretty far astray. I ended up staying in AZ, so I never made a replacement lower. The model I did is pretty sophisticated and has multiple configurations where you can turn on/off various features. Bayo lug, on/off. Rear sight ears on/off. Flat top receiver and gasblock, on/off, etc. There are several renders in this thread that show the various options. Anyway, I recently got a new 3D printer for work and I've been spitting out parts pretty much continually for other projects, but I needed a mental health break so I printed out the flat top upper and railed gasblock, then assembled them onto real parts to see how they look and to test the model. Results are below, I REALLY like how this came out. Cheek weld and sight picture are amazing. The rifle looks modern and bad-ass. I'm going to build the upper and gas block from aluminum in another couple of weeks when the temps in my garage become a bit more bearable. Here it is:




What do you guys think?

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Old October 02, 2015, 11:43   #60
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hey looks good I have several i\other ideas too we should I sent you an im thaks scott
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Old October 02, 2015, 13:24   #61
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the upper is what i would e interested in. Full rail, able to accept ar barrels without modification would be great
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Old October 02, 2015, 18:18   #62
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the upper is what i would e interested in. Full rail, able to accept ar barrels without modification would be great
Changing the upper to take a "normal" AR barrel is easy, the tricky part is that you rarely see AR barrels that don't already have the gas port drilled and it needs to be in a different location. For mine, I'm using a HK33 barrel which, like the Woo, has an extended barrel extension (relative to an AR). In fact, its extension is even longer. I'm going to machine the upper to Daewoo specs and either turn a spacer disc to get the location right, or (more likely), cut a groove in the barrel extension and use a external snap ring to set the spacing. Just to be clear, this is just the spacing of the barrel assy into the upper, NOT the headspace, headspace works in the normal AR way (interaction of chamber, barrel extension, and bolt).

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Old October 02, 2015, 21:09   #63
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I have looked at barrels and I found a source that will make anything we need

I also have wanted to make a handgard that has a full length rail on top with a rounded lower part that you can add rail sections along with alternating qd points

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Old October 06, 2015, 10:26   #64
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Vandal you are awesome.
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Old October 06, 2015, 10:35   #65
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This is a little off topic here but has anyone considered using an all polymer lower like Plum Crazy sells for AR 15. The Daewoo looks like the lower is a low stress part during firing and that would allow for the use of cheaper and easier to make parts to be used. That still doesn't solve the issue of the upper but could solve half of the building problem.
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Old October 16, 2015, 12:22   #66
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Not American made, but Lionheart (the guys who rebrand the Daewoo 9mm handgun) have stated they're working on getting K2s into their product field.

So it's worth a shot to email them and show there's support for Lionheart K2s.
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Old November 04, 2015, 00:02   #67
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Not American made, but Lionheart (the guys who rebrand the Daewoo 9mm handgun) have stated they're working on getting K2s into their product field.

So it's worth a shot to email them and show there's support for Lionheart K2s.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Old November 20, 2015, 05:03   #68
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Nice work Vandal,

I did not anticipate the HK front sight. The upper looks great.

I am going to hope this eventually leads to multiple caliber woo options.

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PS. Is not keeping to the original woo dimensions rather than the readily available parts not more work for yourself?
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