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Old July 23, 2018, 09:37   #102
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Very interesting. Bleach doesn't kill it.
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Old September 05, 2018, 10:26   #103
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Let's just bring 'em in by the planeload.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lling-ill.html
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Old September 05, 2018, 13:11   #104
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Let's just bring 'em in by the planeload.

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Got my attention this morning this report did!

Infect them overseas and fly them in, or infect and let them walk over from the southern borders.

Bad Bugs or bullets, my money is on bad bugs next go around.
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Old September 05, 2018, 16:24   #105
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Got my attention this morning this report did!

Infect them overseas and fly them in, or infect and let them walk over from the southern borders.

Bad Bugs or bullets, my money is on bad bugs next go around.
I certainly wouldn't bet against you on that!
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Old September 05, 2018, 17:00   #106
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I certainly wouldn't bet against you on that!
You and I both know, a 40x40 square foot lab, a couple of scientist types taking globs of money, and some open sourced equipment, with some bad/crazy types seeking a certain outcome, with zero concerns for their own longevity, is a Stephen King nightmare in real life.

I scan four or five newspapers daily, morning and night, looking for a reason to go to ground, lock the front gate and have zero contact with outside people.

Am surprised daily, we ain't been hit yet.
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Old September 05, 2018, 22:21   #107
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all kinds of disease out in the wild ........

not just human related

but remember the 1913 pandemic was a variant of swing flu

problem is when it makes the jump to humans



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African Swine Fever: A Growing Threat

Despite its geographical name, African swine fever (ASF), like all pig diseases, doesn’t respect boundaries. This was apparent Aug. 3 when Chinese government officials announced the nation’s first case of ASF in a northeastern province, creating a global sensation in the pig world that could have far-reaching implications. The current outbreak has already grown this month as China now has four confirmed cases of ASF (see map courtesy of Chris Rademacher, Iowa State University), which clearly shows how quickly the virus can travel—making preparations in the United States all the more critical to prevent it from reaching this country.

ASF is one of the three big foreign animal diseases (FADs) that includes foot-and-mouth disease and classical swine fever. If it reaches the United States, Iowa State University economist Dermot Hayes, estimates losses of $8 billion for the pork industry in year one alone. That doesn’t include related losses of $4 billion and $1.5 billion for the affected input commodities of corn and soybeans, respectively.

Pork Groups Collaborating to Keep ASF from U.S. Shores

Together with the National Pork Producers Council, the American Association of Swine Veterinarians, the Swine Health Information Center and USDA, the National Pork Board continues to work swiftly on prevention and response planning to help keep U.S. pig farms free of African swine fever (ASF).

Action steps shared
The pork industry organizations have developed a list of potential actions that could help prevent, and if needed, respond to an ASF incursion into the United States. According to Dave Pyburn, DVM, Checkoff’s vice-president of science and technology, “These steps have been shared with USDA officials and a collaborative discussions to hone them is ongoing. We are prioritizing all prevention initiatives ahead of any response initiatives.”

Specifically, Pyburn says prevention from any foreign animal disease (FAD) would be enhanced by USDA collaborating with Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Plant Protection and Quarantine (PPQ) to ensure flights from China and Russia (another country with current ASF infections in pigs) get enhanced passenger and cargo inspection attention. Also under consideration is sampling, monitoring and potential mitigations of imported products that might pose a risk of ASF transmission.

Monitoring, acting
The USDA’s Center for Epidemiology and Animal Health’s Risk Identification Unit is monitoring diseases around the world, including China. The pork industry plans to have increased, regular communications with the center to enhance prevention through raising awareness.

“Collaboration can help to address concerns about potential risk associated with feed and feed component imports,” says Paul Sundberg, director of the Swine Health Information Center (SHIC), which is funded by the Pork Checkoff. He points to research that’s being done to test bulk feed products and apply that learning to monitoring shipments for pathogen contamination.

According to SHIC, research into feed-pathogen mitigation options, feed additives, component holding time and temperature before processing, and Hazard Analysis and Risk-Based Preventive Controls and blockchain are being investigated with urgency.

Next steps
The Pork Checkoff, along with its partners, are working on a project that would allow producers and veterinarians to collect oral fluid instead of blood to test for FADs such as ASF, FMD and CSF. In addition, the pork industry is seeking to hold ASF-specific emergency response exercises with all industry and government stakeholders. Working closely with our Canadian and Mexican counterparts will be crucial to the overall FAD prevention strategy as well.
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Old September 06, 2018, 08:25   #108
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This year marks the 100th anniversary of the 1918 influenza (flu) pandemic that swept the globe in what is still one of the deadliest disease outbreaks in recorded history.

In September 1918, the second wave of pandemic flu emerged at Camp Devens, a U.S. Army training camp just outside of Boston, and at a naval facility in Boston. This wave was brutal and peaked in the U.S. from September through November. More than 100,000 Americans died during October alone. The third and final wave began in early 1919 and ran through spring, causing yet more illness and death. While serious, this wave was not as lethal as the second wave. The flu pandemic in the U.S. finally subsided in the summer of 1919, leaving decimated families and communities to pick up the pieces. Scientists now know this pandemic was caused by an H1N1 virus, which continued to circulate as a seasonal virus worldwide for the next 38 years.
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Old September 06, 2018, 13:59   #109
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The population was 104M in the US. 675,000 died of the flu. Under 1%.
Military combat losses in 1918 53,000. Flu loses 45,000. Flu ended WWI.
Imagine one of the new ones that are 5% or some nasties that could reach 30%.
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It comes down to infection rates but even so:
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The population was 104M in the US. 675,000 died of the flu. Under 1%.
Military combat losses in 1918 53,000. Flu loses 45,000. Flu ended WWI.
Imagine one of the new ones that are 5% or some nasties that could reach 30%.
http://readme.readmedia.com/Influenz...-1918/15832930
I've always questioned that number dead in 1918, lack of computers, people were still planting their loved ones out in the back forty and not reporting them dead to anyone but their local pastor and church.

But even 1.6 million dead in our current population, another 30 or 40 million down sick for weeks, that might just be enough of a tipping point to blow this country wide open.

1.6 million dead in a short period of time, the panic would be staggering, runs on runs for goods, people not going to work out of fear, might just be enough to tip it all over.
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Foreign animal disease?! African Swine Fever?! That is discrimination right there! All pigs from Africa should be allowed to come to the US without passing any sanitary inspection checkpoints! And then put in pens in cities like NYC and Chicago so children can come and pet them. #africanpigsmatter
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Old September 06, 2018, 22:07   #113
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You and I both know, a 40x40 square foot lab, a couple of scientist types taking globs of money, and some open sourced equipment, with some bad/crazy types seeking a certain outcome, with zero concerns for their own longevity, is a Stephen King nightmare in real life.

I scan four or five newspapers daily, morning and night, looking for a reason to go to ground, lock the front gate and have zero contact with outside people.

Am surprised daily, we ain't been hit yet.
About sums it up...

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This is how it begins......
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It doesn't help when the flight crews don't alert of problems while inbound. Think they didn't know or just wanted to avoid a quarantine?

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No one on either plane was quarantined, American Airlines spokeswoman Leslie Scott said. She said members of the crews had not contacted medical personnel ahead of landing to alert them of sick passengers on board.
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Foreign animal disease?! African Swine Fever?! That is discrimination right there! All pigs from Africa should be allowed to come to the US without passing any sanitary inspection checkpoints! And then put in pens in cities like NYC and Chicago so children can come and pet them. #africanpigsmatter
ASF is usually 100% deadly in pigs, but does NOT affect people.

https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics...an-swine-fever
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Ebola death reported this morning, in a city of plus 1 million in Africa.

So far, they've kept this in smaller/isolated areas, so what happens next????

Any city worldwide with a million folks, has a ton of in and out air traffic.
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ASF is usually 100% deadly in pigs, but does NOT affect people.
so far as we know, correct, but if it mutates just the right way it could make the jump to humans, thats when things go sideways


a few years ago Chinese visitors to large pig farming operations here in the US infected (thought to be carried on the soles of shoes) several populations of pigs that about 100,000 pigs had to be destroyed to try to stop the infection, all ages of pigs began pooping black slime, and most often anything passing black is most often blood, bleeding into the intestinal tract

the solution was to take infected pigs, kill them, grind them up and add to the food supply of other pigs to try to create natural antibodies

ASF has the pork producing industry scrambling looking for a cure, in the mean time they are trying to keep any possible carrier item from entering the country, my money sez that illegals crossing the southern border will be the cause
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That's the one I read this morning.

""We are now tracing more than 4,000 contacts of patients and they have spread out all over the region of northwest Congo, so they have to be followed up and the only way to reach them is motorcycles," Salama said. """"
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And why the Ponderosa has an activated carbon filtered positive pressure system plus super tight sealing so once we lock the doors, tape all seams and assemble the air lock at basement door nothing seeps in as the house is always out gassing filtered air instead of sucking in unfiltered air. Added that system to the HVAC years ago and the panic room has gasketed triple seal door and NBC rated air filtration system. I know all about the tuberculosis ward at the hospital and they vent it using fans and ducts out top of the building hoping their carbon filters stop the germs from infecting anyone downwind. Nobody is allowed on roof if have a T.B. or any contagion patient in the ward. Anything breaks it stays broken. Thier management hates escorting contractors on roof due to all the ventilation exiting on roof.
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Some people don't take virus's, etc serious.

Last three days, had a nasty bug running through my system, fever, 101 or so, headaches, chills, feel like shit ain't done much but sleep, stare at TV and this thing a little.

Coming out of it this morning, I pray.

As individuals, we're not prepared for normal little bugs, big bad ass bugs, going to be a whole nutter world in snap of ones fingers.

Damn glad ain't worried about a job feeling like this.
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