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Old January 22, 2006, 17:08   #51
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[list=1][*](bolt) D over 209[*](bolt)Partial number one unreadable character and 15?[*](bolt)diamond with an E inside.[*](bolt)S15 58[*](carrier)nothing on top section[*](carrier)S226 57 [*](carrier)diamond with E inside[*](carrier)D over 161[*](carrier)D over 197[*](carrier)2 and two other unreadable characters[/list=1] There are no proof marks(crown type or crossed flags)
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Old January 22, 2006, 18:10   #52
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[list=1][*](bolt) D over 209[*](bolt)Partial number one unreadable character and 15?[*](bolt)diamond with an E inside.[*](bolt)S15 58[*](carrier)nothing on top section[*](carrier)S226 57 [*](carrier)diamond with E inside[*](carrier)D over 161[*](carrier)D over 197[*](carrier)2 and two other unreadable characters[/list=1] There are no proof marks(crown type or crossed flags)
Does yours look like the HUGE pic of the bolt Kevin posted above? Markings in similar places? The D is probably a "D-in-E" Enfield mark. The Bolt is a 1958 product, and the BC is a 1957 product. Everything is either SBM (batch mark, same as a heat in US) or inspectors' marks.
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Old January 22, 2006, 19:13   #53
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Yep the markings are in the same places.They are the "D in E" markings.I should have described them better.
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Old January 23, 2006, 12:10   #54
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Hi Kevin. Got another incher for ya.


Carrier: Top frount- UA

1 inch back- crossed flags

Right side, upside down, etched - 6805865

No futher markings, checked inside.

Bolt: Left flat, etched,? -crossed flages with" p" at bottom.

Right side beneath extractor, - D R

Bottom flat,etched,- 6609413

Hope this helps in some small way. G'luck with the project!

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Old January 23, 2006, 12:26   #55
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Mainer:
Yours are both British:
The BC was made in 1968 and is middle production for that year.
The B was made in 1966, and is fairly late prodcution that year.
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Old January 23, 2006, 23:36   #56
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Breech Block

RH side...
hand engraved Crossed Flags
proof marking

Top...
stamped triangle symbol, B59 960-2104
B = made by BSA
59 = year it was made 1959
960-2104 = part number NSN 1005-99-960-2104


LH Side...
stamped letter "D", lightly hand engraved Broad Arrow, stamped letter "K" by the firing pin retainer
D logo for EnfielD
Broadarrow = Aceptance marking
K = unknown



Underneath...
machine engraved UEA 20094
U = United Kingdom (country of manufacture)
E = made by Enfield
A20094 rifle serial number



Bolt Carrier

RH side...
upsidedown machine engraved UEA 20094
U = United Kingdom (country of manufacture)
E = made by Enfield
A20094 rifle serial number


Top...
stamped triangle symbol, stamped Crossed Flags, stamped Broad Arrow, B59 960-2107, hand engraved Broad Arrow, another stamped Broad Arrow, stamped letter "T"
Triangle = is a factory non-destructive crack test pass mark
Crossed flags = proof mark
Broadarrow = Aceptance marking
B = made by BSA
59 = year it was made 1959
960-2107 = part number NSN 1005-99-960-2107
not sure what the "T" means


Underneath...
very tiny stamped "SI"
this will most likey be the Steel Batch Mark
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Old January 23, 2006, 23:43   #57
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[*](bolt) D over 209
Inspectors pass mark
[*](bolt)Partial number one unreadable character and 15?
probably Inspectors pass mark
[*](bolt)diamond with an E inside.

[*](bolt)S15 58
S15 = Steel Batch Mark
58 = year of manufacture (1958)

[*](carrier)S226 57
S226 = Steel Batch Mark
57 = year of manufacture (1957)

[*](carrier)diamond with E inside
uncertian what this means
[*](carrier)D over 161
Inspectors pass mark
[*](carrier)D over 197
Inspectors pass mark
[*](carrier)2 and two other unreadable characters
probably Inspectors pass mark

The proof marking is probably very lightly electro penciled on the RH side of the breech block
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Old January 23, 2006, 23:51   #58
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Carrier: Top frount- UA

1 inch back- crossed flags

Right side, upside down, etched - 6805865

No futher markings, checked inside.

Australian Breech Block
UA = Steel Batch Mark (SBM) 'UA' accepted and used in 1964
crossed flags = Lithgow proof mark
6805865 = Rifle serial number AD6805865 - Assembled in 1968 and sold to the Australian Army



Bolt: Left flat, etched,? -crossed flages with" p" at bottom.

Right side beneath extractor, - D R

Bottom flat,etched,- 6609413

Australian Breech Block Carrier
DR = Steel Batch Mark (SBM) 'DR' accepted and used in 1964
crossed flags with 'P' = Lithgow proof mark
6609413 = Rifle serial number AD6609413 - Assembled in 1966 and sold to Singapore
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Old February 23, 2006, 06:59   #59
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My newly aquired Century R1A1 appears to have some Aussie parts (from the tacked ID your parts thread) so here goes:

Bolt Carrier(ID'd as Aussie with sand cuts from thread):

Top: CX and crossed flag
Top/extractor side (handwritten): 6416552
No markings underneath

Bolt (ID'd as British with sand cuts from thread):

side opposite extractor, towards bolt face: D K 3 (stamped clearly)
Bottom (handwritten, very very faint, had to take a picture with the flash just right to see it all): 6415093
No other visible markings on the bolt (oddly).

I'm a FAL n00b so if this isn't the right kind of bolt, sorry. (If it is, and it does look like the pictures of Biritish bolts with sand cuts, I have pictures if you want to see if you can find any other markings, I can't).
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Old February 23, 2006, 10:20   #60
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My newly aquired Century R1A1 appears to have some Aussie parts (from the tacked ID your parts thread) so here goes:
Bolt Carrier(ID'd as Aussie with sand cuts from thread):

Top: CX and crossed flag[/b]
Made in 1963, CX is the 'throw' or heat number of the batch (so-called batch marks)

Top/extractor side (handwritten): 6416552
Assembled to a rifle in 1964, which rifle was originally sold to BERMUDA, MAHN!

No markings underneath

Bolt (ID'd as British with sand cuts from thread):
side opposite extractor, towards bolt face: D K 3 (stamped clearly)
Bottom (handwritten, very very faint, had to take a picture with the flash just right to see it all): 6415093
No other visible markings on the bolt (oddly).

I believe it to be OzTrayLeahn, issued in 1964 ALSO to Bermuda. Oz used sand-cuts. DK is the 1962 'throw' of breech blocks (bolts) made in Oz.

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Old April 21, 2006, 10:12   #61
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Ok mister smarty pants Adams, tell me about this bastardization.
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Old April 21, 2006, 18:22   #62
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OK, I lightened the pic up a little

Here's the guff, yes the Bolt is Australian, made sometime after 1973 (DZ)

It was used as a spare part by the British and used to replace the bolt on rifle UB A34819 which originally was made by BSA.

It has been NDT (Non Destructive Test) Crack tested by the Armourers hence * at the end of the serial number.

For some reason the British have deemed that the Australian Bolt doesn't meet their spec but have given it a Concession hence C22569 is marked on it. The Triangle is generally the Factory (eg Enfield) NDT marking.

What dose it all mean? It's possible this Bolt was purchased by Enfield or was part of the 'parts interchangeability program' and then was sent through the supply system and ended up as a replacement in rifle A34819.
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Old April 21, 2006, 22:15   #63
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Herei's mine, what there is of it anyway. This is a bolt and carrier I got from GPG a while back:

Bolt:
Left side stamped with: D E
Top: no markings
Right side: no markings
Underside engraved: 6118353

Carrier:
Top flat: crossed flags
top round (infront of flat): C V
right side engraved: 6314090

no other markings found

Whats it mean?
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Old April 21, 2006, 22:44   #64
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Bolt
Australian
DE = 1960 (year it was made)
6118353 = Serial No. AD6118353

Rifle AD6118353 sold to; New Zealand
Date Assembled: 1961
Rifle sold as part of Batch: AD6117281 - AD6119280


Bolt Carrier
Australian
CV = 1962 (year it was made)
crossed flags = Lithgow proof mark
6314090 = Serial No. AD6314090

Rifle AD6314090 sold to: New Zealand
Date Assembled: 1963
Rifle sold as part of Batch: AD6313870 - AD6314719
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Old April 23, 2006, 09:46   #65
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Kevin this one came out of a CAI sporter from the early 1990's

Breech block Left handside SMB-S453
Year-63
Letter in Diamond-E
Markers Symbol-D over E(stamped at rear of NSN part number)
NSN part number-960-2104

Right handside-D over number stamp-D23 and D107
Triangle on a verticle line/1
Number 107 under a broad arrow etched

I can barely make out an engraved + symbol, with what appears to be a R in the upper Left quadrant, 5 in the upper right quadrant, A in the lower left quadrant, and what very lightly appears to be a 6 in the lower right quadrant.
At the top of the + is a Box symbol

Underside of breech block- nothing visable as is was refinished
Top of breech block- nothing

Breech Block carrier rightside;
Proof mark- AC, an indistinguishable mark to the right of these
Marker Symbols-B
Year-59
NSN Number-960-2107
Crossed Flags proof mark
Stamped broad arrow point up, with a triangle next to it

Underside of carrier appears to have a lightly stamped 15 or l5
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Do you want these for your collection Kevin? I'm figuring that the Brits ran out of local parts with their extensive FTR program that was offered to a lot of countries, that's when Parker Hale got into the L1A1 parts manufacturing buisness. Sound right?
Aussie bolts with Brit internals.
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Old June 06, 2006, 00:27   #67
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Do you want these for your collection Kevin? I'm figuring that the Brits ran out of local parts with their extensive FTR program that was offered to a lot of countries, that's when Parker Hale got into the L1A1 parts manufacturing buisness. Sound right?
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I won't turn anything down. They certainly are interesting and I think it probably stems from the major fire at the Donnington Storage facility back in 1984 that destroyed about 200m of weapons and equipment including vast mounts of spares for all sorts of weapons.

They had to cannibalise a lot of weapons to rebuild the required spares allocation along with new contracts for parts to be produced by the likes of Parker Hale and other manufacturers.
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Old June 12, 2006, 11:22   #68
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Got a couple of these

Carrier #1 -

Ejection port side - UB A45192 (Electro pencil)
Spine - (Going from breech to tail)
X marking at breech end of the "Flat"
21^65 (its an arrow not a ^)
B59 960-2107
->
crossed flags i think

Back of carrier has an X
Front/left side are marking free

Underside -
Small "15" or maybe "I5" or even "IS"
H


Carrier #2 -

EP side - UBA132786
Spine -
O
->
B61 960-2107
very light, large "X"

Back of carrier has an O

left side and front are markingless

Underside has
S
R (i think, not well stamped)

Bolt #1

Left side -
W
Top -
9602104 B60

Right side -
Arrow pointing to a rough crown (looks EP'ed)

Bottom -
O
899960

Firing pin - "2"
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Bolt-right side,crossed flags with a L on top and a P on bottom. Just to the rear of that are two d stamped like this-D D.D's are stamped the other markings are scribed in. That is all that is on the bolt.
Bolt carrier-sand cuts both sides-right side scribed in are the numbers 6608079.On the top extreme front stamped in is CW.Back of the CW on the flat it looks like crossed rifles or a shallow X.
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Top of bolt carrier "crossed flags" proofmark and "UB" stamped
Top side of bolt carrier "6577944" electropenciled
no other markings anywhere on carrier

Bolt left side "crossed flags" electropenciled in
Bolt bottom "7003222" electropenciled, and "DU" stamped.

It is a sand cut carrier, no other markings anywhere. Hope this helps, Azure
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Bolt #1

Right side(side with extractor)
D over 95 also
D over 166

Top
triangle

Left side
S180 58 (light engraving)
Looks like diamond imprinted over diamond with what looks like an I
D 960-2104

Bottom
UB A 64544

Bolt carrier #1

Top
(Left to right)
M
looks like a diamond with an I
followed by same
B 61 960-2107
I think the last are crossed flags but unsure they're worn down

Inside
All I can make out is a 3.1

Right Side
UE A 136552
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Bolt #2

Right side and Bottom:
Both have the number 6117376 electro penciled in

Left side
Crossed flags w/ L on top P on bottom next to D E

no other markings present

Bolt Carrier #2

Right Side
UB A 130450

Top (Left to Right)
Crown over ?R over crossed flags over P
Triangle
Arrow
D 58 960-2107

Inside
S13 57 diamond w/ an I
D over 161 D over 29 D over 29 D over 29
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Bolt #3

Left Side
L over crossed flags
D B

Bottom
6004024 electro penciled in

No other marks

Bolt carrier #3

Right Side
6118345 electro penciled

Top(left to right)

C H

Crown
?? over crossed flags R(?)
6118345 electro penciled in

Inside

V stamped

I kept the bolts and carriers seperate so I wouldn't mix em up. Just curious if you get a chance, could ya tell me what I have? If not thats ok too. Hope it helps out.
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Old December 31, 2006, 19:46   #74
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Information added, thanx for it guys
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crossed flags with a L on top and a P on bottom:- Lithgow Proof Mark

DD :- should be the Steel Batch Mark for 1960

6608079:- Rifle Serial Number AD6608079
Assembled in 1966
Sold to: Malaysia
Batch: AD6608007 - AD6608506

Carrier top
CW:- Steel Batch Mark for 1962

crossed rifles or a shallow X :- Lithgow proof mark
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Top of bolt carrier
"crossed flags":- Lithgow proof mark

"UB":- Steel Batch Mark = 1964

"6517944" :- Rifle Serial Number AD6517944
Assembled in 1965
Sold to: Malaya
Batch: AD6517331 - AD6518180

Bolt
"crossed flags":- Lithgow proof mark

"DU":- Steel Batch Mark = 1967

"7003222" :- Rifle Serial Number AD7003222
Assembled in 1970
Sold to: Kuala Lumpur
Batch: AD7003140 - AD7003739

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It seems the number on the carrier could be 6517944, it is written with ep and isnt very clear, sorry about that.
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Bolt top - 9602104 B60
Bolt left - stamped "N"
Bolt right - nothing
Bolt bottom - engraved "UE A57362" followed by stamped "*"

Carrier top - sideways "J" followed by left facing arrow "<-" followed by up arrow. B62 960-2107 Lastly, stamped crossed flags
Carrier left - nothing
Carrier right - upside down engraved A168707
Carrier bottom - stamped S1
Carrier butt - stamped "J"
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Just got this one with a UE 57 kit.

BOLT:
(left side)
S242-57
up-arrow in diamond
Enfield D-in-E
960-2104 part no.
Electro penciled arrow pointing to "9" in the above.

(top)
small triangle

(right side)
D-in-E over 57
crossed flags electropenciled
fresh and well done electropencil over left flag; crosshatch with top left quadrant "R"; top right "S"; bottom left "A"; bottom right "F"; at top of vertical cross is a three-lobed crown looking thing (actually looks more like a pawprint).

(bottom)
Roll marked UB A2811 (force match to Carrier)


CARRIER:
(left side) nothing

(top)
M
small triangle
Enfield D-in-E 61
9502107
crossed flags

(right side)
Roll marked UB A 2811

(bottom) nothing

(rear)
M
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My bolt:

Left side: W

Top: 9602104 B60

Right side: Etched K in a circle, arrow and crossed flags.

Bottom: It has 493258 etched over another set of numbers and an O towards the rear.

Back: W

Two piece firing pin.

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Old October 08, 2015, 20:41   #82
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As usual I am late to the party.

Bolt carrier
Right side: UB A79375 (upside down)
Top: Enfield E inside D then D 58 960-2107
Inside: (Rat tail to left)
top line reading vertically (Rat tail up-1200) Enfield D 161. 29 space 29 space 30
2nd line reading normal (Rat tail to left-0900): Arch, 356 space, bottom of a 3, 7, Triangle with arrow proof mark? hard to tell.

Small stamp on the end of the ridge, inside left side where breech face has an uncut area at the 1-2 O'Clock on the front of the bolt carrier.

I hope this help, since it is the first one that I have inspected. I plan to use it in my 50.63 when I use the fixed stock.
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Old December 03, 2015, 00:33   #83
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L1A1 Bolt ID.

HI Kevin,
Bolt 1 - D..K beadblasted with surface grind to bottom and side.
Bolt 2 - NIB NOS, Box label 1005-49-960-0056 QTY 1 Breech bolt Assembly (MA1886, #30840 in pen) marked, L X flags P, D S
Bolt 3 - NIB NOS Same box label MA 1419 #30840 23208..., L X flags P, D R
Bolt 4 - Box sealed same label as others.

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