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Old April 25, 2018, 23:57   #51
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It was like that, and the Germans that died, attest to that fact.

After the war, the Germans who had relocated into the occupied countries, also died en masse at the hands of the Russians and enraged citizens.

Germany lost the war, and we exploited it as a buffer for 45 years, between the West and the USSR.

6-8-12 million German soldiers, of the 18 million who served, got dead during, and after the war, depending on who is counting. Add in 4 million frau, kiddes, and old grampa's.

How can you not like this outcome?

By the way, the nazis called the escape routes to S America, "the rat line", for rats leaving a sinking ship; appropriate.
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Old April 26, 2018, 01:21   #52
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It was like that, and the Germans that died, attest to that fact.

After the war, the Germans who had relocated into the occupied countries, also died en masse at the hands of the Russians and enraged citizens.

Germany lost the war, and we exploited it as a buffer for 45 years, between the West and the USSR.

6-8-12 million German soldiers, of the 18 million who served, got dead during, and after the war, depending on who is counting. Add in 4 million frau, kiddes, and old grampa's.

How can you not like this outcome?

By the way, the nazis called the escape routes to S America, "the rat line", for rats leaving a sinking ship; appropriate.
more fantasy, the Germans who relocated were fleeing West. So are you saying enraged Western Germans were murdering other Germans fleeing the East and the warm embrace of your hero Stalin Red V ?

Come on out with it, do you support the gang rapes of young girls and yes even boys ?
That's what went on in the Russian Zone
it was particularly bad for little girls, some of whom were raped to death in both Poland and Germany under Stalins direction.
Happened in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuiania too
as well as the Ukraine
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Revisionist maddness cannot be allowed to stand.

Thousands of Germans had relocated east and south, to occupy the former homes of Jews, in the occupied countries, and the homes of "other" undesirables.

That thru 1948, these German scum tresspassers--thousands of them, were brutalized by the anti-Nazi locals, is undisputed fact. You tube videos confirm such.

These Germans were unable to flee west fast enough, due to Russian occupation, military checkpoints, and the growth of the Communist Parties in those countries. We did not give a shit, and let "bygones" murder the tresspassers....not our problem.

For years almost everyone left alive in Germany, was vetted by either the Allies or Russia, for criminal nazi backgrounds, and for fodder to take to the Trials or Siberia.

Gold mining in Siberia is very labor intensive--they mine frozen ground year round, and have to keep the wash plants operating in subzero conditions. Many Nazi bodies were burned for fuel.


Ever see films of those lines examining both civilians and soldiers in Germany after the war?


The very first Trials happened in 1945 at the camps.

Admiration for those dead heroic German soldiers...assholes who murdered 57 million, many of them unarmed individuals, tells the tale of inherent German cowardace, lack of morality, and total lack of common sense; they were more like dogs and ravenous wolves, than humans. Monkeys are better citizens than Nazis.
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I believe the term is “as thick as two short planks” - you are simply missing the point. 🤪
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Ironically, the one thing that Americans love is freedom: freedom of speech, freedom of association, of free movement across statelines, and the right to work and worship where you want to do so.

The Nazi soldiers, NEVER had even one of those rights, and THEY took those rights from everyone they met....and killed.

So why the admiration of stinking human shit?

They HATED your parents and grandparents and wanted to kill them too. Lots of them would have become lampshades and soap, memorializing their faces when you turned on the bulb.

Yes, our Constitution has everything to do with it too. I guess if "they" hated it, you hate it too.

Wake up; grey-green uniforms were/are body bags.......... and so they became.

The Nazi is bad, very bad.
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I didn't state the Diggers & Kiwis didn't contribute to the Pacific War, simply that they had their sectors of operation & we had our own. Largely they were active in areas controlled by the Dutch East India Company.
Hogwash: "how many Aussies & Kewis fought in the Pacific theater during WWII ?
Some were in Indonesia. How many took back islands from the Empire ?
How many stormed beach heads ?
Did they lend a hand at Tarawa, Guam, Okinawa, the Philippines, etc ?"

nope

You asked how many fought. You said right here the Australians did nothing aubot taking back the Philippines when the did assist at Leyte. They fought under deplorable conditions taking back New Guinea (of which they owned half) to include enduring being cannibalized by the Japaneses, try reading about what they endured during their fighting on the Kokoda Trail. Their military fought in The Dutch East Indies under the ABDA because they were attempting to turn back the Japaneses invasion and lost some of their largest ships, noting shady about that. Had Mac not told them to downsize their military and let America do the fighting they would have contributed far more.


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Post WWII there was just a ton of land grabbing going on in the Pacific. The Brits ended up embedded in Burma & Malaysia, French in Indochina and we seized a swath of Pacific Islands.
The land grab you're speaking of was nothing more than Europe taking their colonies back and America taking over Japanese possesions

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We handled the Philippines differently than we did after the SA war. This time we gave them a true level of autonomy. Backside it was better to have native governments under our control than the possibility of another insurrection.
See this time it would not have been Barongs and Kries against Springfield Rifles. The islanders were quite well armed, battle hardened. It would have been a complete bloodbath.
No. under the Tidings-McDuffie Act the US had already started transitioning control of the Philippines to self rule in preparation for their independence and if not for the Japanese invasion would have been completed by 1946 at the latest. Japan should have waited a few more years to invade.

As far as a bloodbath, no. The Filipino troops that tried fending off the Japanese when they landed at Lingayen Gulf was a complete route. Most were drafted and fired only 2 or 3 rounds before fleeing. Besides that, even at unit levels they had problems communicating amongst themselves because of so many different languages. Sure the Filipino Scouts were good soldiers but as a whole there was much to be desired. The Filipinos weren't the Indonesians who hated the Dutch so much that they were rounding up every white person they could find and turning them over to the Japanese, the Filipinos fought and died protecting Americans the entire time Japan occupied their country and greatly appreciated them defending their islands.

Before WWII America dumped so much money into the Philippines that they had the second largest economy in East Asia so we had always handled our colony quite differently than Europeans did theirs.


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Sure, Eugenics was rampant. You can't use that to excuse your Fat Bastard then condemn it's use by the Reich. It was just evil across the board PERIOD.
In your rush to always shout down anybody who doesn't share your perspective you obviously missed the fact that's what I was referring to in the first place, America had their own little bit of eugenics going on as well.

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Churchill to a great deal is responsible for the awful mess in the middle east today. He wrote one statement positively gleeful when the RAF started Chemical bombing the "WOGS"in Mesopotamia. Yeah civilian populations.
This was after Laurence had left Damascus.
Honestly I suspect Churchill had him murdered. .
Nope, the Middle East has always been a cluster f--k, even long before the Brits started lobbing chemical weapons at them. You need look no further than the state of the Ottoman Empire before it collapsed to see that. And there were quite a few in the British Office Corp that were pleased with the results of lobbing artillery at the Kurds, not just Churchill so you shouldn't single him out. Crap the Arabs couldn't even get together to make their beloved Damascus work once they captured it, and that was before the Brits started occupying the Middle East. They've always been tribal and always will be.

SInce we're discussing nutty CTs a lot of people that knew Lawrence suggest that he might have done himself in.

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I used to have huge respect for Teddy Roosevelt
He was another mommas boy and insanely Liberal. Like Churchill a brilliant writer & speaker. Like Churchill a pig that believed in sterilization campaigns, involuntary incarceration of the unfit and of course their forced labor.
Between the way you strut around this site with a chip on your shoulder and dare anybody to knock it off and your long winded responses you have much more with TR than you realize. It's no surprise you're so critical of him.

Once again eugenics was rampant, thanks for proving the point I was making.

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Was Hitler an Alpha Male ?
How about Himmler or Goebbles...
Hitler "maybe", he was an actual War hero however even that said he was another little man with a huge chip on his shoulder

Winnie & Teddy ?
Peter Pan syndrome. Boys who never grew up from playing with brightly painted toy soldiers. Indulged at every turn by their filthy rich families who grew into an extremely false sense of superiority.
Non sequitur. Your personal opinion has what to do with this? Churchill stood up to Lord Halifax and the rest of surrender minded cadre and called Hitler out as a two bit thug that had hijacked a country that he was. If not for him it's quite possible the Brits would have gone the same way as the French and in the end history proved him right and despite his many faults he deserves to be recognized for it because like it or not WWII would have been very different without him.
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This is not about what people did, its about the desire for war. Perhaps disscussion could swerve away from the atrocities to the reasoning behind the war - why war was wanted, and who was really behind it. ?!?!
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Many Nazi bodies were burned for fuel.
Interesting. Let's try some science:
https://www.quora.com/How-much-energ...uman-cremation

BTW - the science and logic apply equally to whoever you're needing to incinerate. I'd reckon a country desperate for fuel would limit cremation to only what was necessary, if bodies could actually be used for fuel, there would be a lot fewer murderers in prison.
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Whaever are you rambling on about?

Hogwash: "how many Aussies & Kewis fought in the Pacific theater during WWII ?
Some were in Indonesia. How many took back islands from the Empire ?
How many stormed beach heads ?
Did they lend a hand at Tarawa, Guam, Okinawa, the Philippines, etc ?"

nope

You asked how many fought. You said right here the Australians did nothing aubot taking back the Philippines when the did assist at Leyte. They fought under deplorable conditions taking back New Guinea (of which they owned half) to include enduring being cannibalized by the Japaneses, try reading about what they endured during their fighting on the Kokoda Trail. Their military fought in The Dutch East Indies under the ABDA because they were attempting to turn back the Japaneses invasion and lost some of their largest ships, noting shady about that. Had Mac not told them to downsize their military and let America do the fighting they would have contributed far more.


The land grab you're speaking of was nothing more than Europe taking their colonies back and America taking over Japanese possesions

No. under the Tidings-McDuffie Act the US had already started transitioning control of the Philippines to self rule in preparation for their independence and if not for the Japanese invasion would have been completed by 1946 at the latest. Japan should have waited a few more years to invade.

As far as a bloodbath, no. The Filipino troops that tried fending off the Japanese when they landed at Lingayen Gulf was a complete route. Most were drafted and fired only 2 or 3 rounds before fleeing. Besides that, even at unit levels they had problems communicating amongst themselves because of so many different languages. Sure the Filipino Scouts were good soldiers but as a whole there was much to be desired. The Filipinos weren't the Indonesians who hated the Dutch so much that they were rounding up every white person they could find and turning them over to the Japanese, the Filipinos fought and died protecting Americans the entire time Japan occupied their country and greatly appreciated them defending their islands.

Before WWII America dumped so much money into the Philippines that they had the second largest economy in East Asia so we had always handled our colony quite differently than Europeans did theirs.




In your rush to always shout down anybody who doesn't share your perspective you obviously missed the fact that's what I was referring to in the first place, America had their own little bit of eugenics going on as well.

Nope, the Middle East has always been a cluster f--k, even long before the Brits started lobbing chemical weapons at them. You need look no further than the state of the Ottoman Empire before it collapsed to see that. And there were quite a few in the British Office Corp that were pleased with the results of lobbing artillery at the Kurds, not just Churchill so you shouldn't single him out. Crap the Arabs couldn't even get together to make their beloved Damascus work once they captured it, and that was before the Brits started occupying the Middle East. They've always been tribal and always will be.

SInce we're discussing nutty CTs a lot of people that knew Lawrence suggest that he might have done himself in.

Between the way you strut around this site with a chip on your shoulder and dare anybody to knock it off and your long winded responses you have much more with TR than you realize. It's no surprise you're so critical of him.

Once again eugenics was rampant, thanks for proving the point I was making.

Non sequitur. Your personal opinion has what to do with this? Churchill stood up to Lord Halifax and the rest of surrender minded cadre and called Hitler out as a two bit thug that had hijacked a country that he was. If not for him it's quite possible the Brits would have gone the same way as the French and in the end history proved him right and despite his many faults he deserves to be recognized for it because like it or not WWII would have been very different without him.
Well a number of points:

The Native peoples of many Colonies tended to argue Ownership at the point of a Gun. I care not a shit whom the colonizer is either. England, Spain, etc, even America. Unless there is a consensus among the People to be governed from affair in my mind it's an unlawful occupation.
That's what the PI suffered under for centuries.

I was incorrect, the Aussies assisted at Lyte but it really was not ground troops. It was their Navy that helped land American troops during the invasion which I concede was crucial to the effort
But a basic reality check is in order
If you add up Japanese ground troops allegedly in play you actually end up with a far larger number than one can account for under Imperial records.
The back story is that their Army was rather incredible. Overall their troops were likely worth three or four of ours which was, well embarassing in the extreme to White Makes Right types. Brutal folks fully capable of making do and living off the land as evidenced by the significant numbers who remained hidden in the field well after VJ day, some into the 1970s.
I'm not celebrating them one bit. This is just the hard truth of all that.

yeah there were American proposals to grant the PI greater autonomy
they would have remained an American territory though no different than Hawaii at that time. They would have changed from the centavo to the cent & Peso to the dollar.
The plan was to eventually incorporate the PI into America, not to cast them adrift. Honestly would have been a grand thing.

Do not confuse conscripted islanders with those fighting for their families
Worse yet, don't confuse folks from say Manilla with those in rural areas
True, the conscripts were easily over ran by the Empire but then it became a serious Guerilla War with the common people outside more urban areas. People who for generations resisted invaders. For example nobody has ever been able to control Mindanao. Spain had a couple forts, America gave up and the Japanese did mostly the same. Marcos only semi stabilized the island by forced relocation of large numbers of folks from the Northern islands to homestead on Mindanao.

Most tend to be ignorant that there are a great number of native cultures in the PI, some borderline Stoneage and others highly advanced. Over a dozen languages spoken. These days Tagalog & English are the two nationally recognized. That said, pre Marcos it was completely different.

So who were these "Scouts"
nope most had never served a day in the Army. They were nasty resistance fighters and overwhelmingly rural people. That's why they were superb in mission.

Eugenics started as exclusively an English thing that was picked up by New England elites. Germany was very late to the game
I have stated the same Many times here. Thing is Churchill never evolved
That bigot saw everyone but English aristocracy as somehow beneath his station, even Scotts and Irish. That's what places him as a super special piece of shit understand ?
Even Teddy wasn't as sick in the had as fatty Winston.

Churchill should be singled out over use of Chemical weapons use in Mesopotamia.
Let's dig into some quotes by this bastard:

with regards to retaliating against German sinking of "merchant" shipping...

“the extreme resources of science” to spread “pestilence, poison the water of great cities” and even “assassination of individuals.”

Later Winston suggested that chemical weapons should be used “against recalcitrant Arabs as an experiment.” adding “I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes to spread a lively terror”.

yes sadly he defined the word Terrorist in himself.

then there's this classic...

“I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas.”
“It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes.”

So yeah one can certainly call this pig a pig

btw the English used Gas post WWI in a variety of places
you may want to study up on the use of M Devices during the Russian revolution and the use of Chemical munitions in India.

Hard to say on Laurence. It's documented Churchill had no love for him. Could have been merely an accident, could have been suicide and yeah could have been a targeted murder by your lovely English Elites. We will never know. Laurence was of a class referred to as Orientalists by English establishment and loathed for it.
Saying that, he was a very romantic figure and incredibly intellectual, an actual historian who became part of history.

Again, Churchill was a Peter Pan manlet playing Toy Soldier with the lives of other folk's children.

History is packed with these pieces of shit, ya know like the Great Maverick John McCain...can't Court Martial the Admiral's son can we ? Nope he be a baby heero.
JFK was another though not nearly as messed up
George Custer was headed toward politics, story is that was part of his drive to have a glorious Victory. Thankfully the natives got together and saved America from that potential Abyss.

Hitler hijacked no more than Churchill had much less Roosevelt or Stalin

I suppose you believe the Russia Collusion mantra too.
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Thanks for the link Ted.
Want more fun ?

research the operational lifespans of crematoria based on firings
There is actual German industrial documentation on that

Nothing maths out
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Conditions in the Russian Gulags for Nazi prisoners were very bad.
It was a death sentence and was intended to be.

Digging by hand/pick shovel in the frozen tundra year around for gold rich dirt, ended most lives.
When the prisoners died, it was too much work to dig graves for them in gold rich ground, so the Nazi bodies were burned and nazis kept warm by the glow.

Alexander Solhzenitzen and his Gulag Archipeligo book details typical camp life.


regarding the extermination camps and the industrial ovens the nazis operated, it is beyond dispute that the dead bodies, Jewish and European, from the gas chambers were quickly taken up to the ovens. Not everyone was completely dead when the prisoner "Sonder-Commandos" put them in to burn, under strict observation by the SS guards.

At least 13 million were cremated at the extermination camps and untold millions more were cremated at the Nazi work camps near the factory sites.

Cremation was preferable to burial when millions have to be disposed of.....the stink is too much for the ground to handle.

Many Nazi pows had to dig up the early war graves of persons murdered and not cremated. Most of them were shot or buried alive.

Nazis were just killing machines, wearing grey-green body bags.
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Conditions in the Russian Gulags for Nazi prisoners were very bad.
It was a death sentence and was intended to be.

Digging by hand/pick shovel in the frozen tundra year around for gold rich dirt, ended most lives.
When the prisoners died, it was too much work to dig graves for them in gold rich ground, so the Nazi bodies were burned and nazis kept warm by the glow.

Alexander Solhzenitzen and his Gulag Archipeligo book details typical camp life.


regarding the extermination camps and the industrial ovens the nazis operated, it is beyond dispute that the dead bodies, Jewish and European, from the gas chambers were quickly taken up to the ovens. Not everyone was completely dead when the prisoner "Sonder-Commandos" put them in to burn, under strict observation by the SS guards.

At least 13 million were cremated at the extermination camps and untold millions more were cremated at the Nazi work camps near the factory sites.

Cremation was preferable to burial when millions have to be disposed of.....the stink is too much for the ground to handle.

Many Nazi pows had to dig up the early war graves of persons murdered and not cremated. Most of them were shot or buried alive.

Nazis were just killing machines, wearing grey-green body bags.
again you ignore the amount of fuel to cremate "millions" as well as the life expectancy of such crematoria. Again your rabidity, is well foolish
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Conditions in the Russian Gulags for Nazi prisoners were very bad.
It was a death sentence and was intended to be.

Digging by hand/pick shovel in the frozen tundra year around for gold rich dirt, ended most lives.
When the prisoners died, it was too much work to dig graves for them in gold rich ground, so the Nazi bodies were burned and nazis kept warm by the glow.

Alexander Solhzenitzen and his Gulag Archipeligo book details typical camp life.


regarding the extermination camps and the industrial ovens the nazis operated, it is beyond dispute that the dead bodies, Jewish and European, from the gas chambers were quickly taken up to the ovens. Not everyone was completely dead when the prisoner "Sonder-Commandos" put them in to burn, under strict observation by the SS guards.

At least 13 million were cremated at the extermination camps and untold millions more were cremated at the Nazi work camps near the factory sites.

Cremation was preferable to burial when millions have to be disposed of.....the stink is too much for the ground to handle.

Many Nazi pows had to dig up the early war graves of persons murdered and not cremated. Most of them were shot or buried alive.

Nazis were just killing machines, wearing grey-green body bags.
I admire your perspicuity,,,, even if others don't.
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a reminder marty:

it wasn't just Nazis wearing Grey or Green body bags

pretty much everyone's boys did
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RSS, your holocaust denial is just amazing.

Waiting a few days to try and re-establish your goal, to find a home on line, to turn this forum into a home for nazis and holcaust deniers, as an attractant-bait, like for coyotes, is just not going to happen.

Your false facts are just beyond mirth.

So, the nazis did not have enough fuel to burn up the cremated corpses, is your latest scam? If you noticed from the actual history of cremations, they burned those 13-30 million, just enough to burn up the fat & tissues.

I guess you think that the constant smoke from the crematoriums was just bread baking eh?

The Nazis employed huge bone grinding machines to turn the piles of bones into dust.

Freedom of speech must allow you to try, but the fact of your Nazi Love/Jewishness hatred, has to be pointed out.

I guess the Nazis were just baking bread in those crematoriums eh?

Why did they destroy and bulldoze so many of the camps? They could not get to all of them in time, as the Russians came upon Maidenek first.

I have the films of Maidenek in the DVD, "And Nght Will Fall."

Germany and the Nazis killed 57 million and about 12-15 million ethnic Germans, for a total body count of say 70 million.

And you imply that maybe 100-200 or so people, in total, were killed during the war and most of them were sick anyway.

That Lend Lease was a war crime is just an insane thing to put forth.

I guess the Nazis forced construction of the 1200 or more, work and extermination camps, in the 20 countries that they occupied by force, was just "an investment in the future", and a legal thing to do?

What do you call that? "Lend-Kill"?

You sure set the high water mark here on Nazi innocence and infallibility.

History proves you wrong in physical evidence each and every day, in the Battlefield archeological digs, in Europe and Russia.

Russia belonged to Russians, not the cro-magnon throwbacks of the wiener schnitzel gang.
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V, you appear to have over consumed the koolaid.
yeah I don't much bother with his insanity any more

I think in this case he's just pissed over my exposing Winnie the wannabe mass killer for what he actually was. V went just as unhinged when I went off on his Comrade Stalin in the past
He has actually posted Stalin was "Good"

what kind of liquid shit is that ?
yeah the kind that spews from a New Yorker
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Old May 02, 2018, 15:18   #69
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Sad really - most people cannot fathom that a told history is largely “Bunk”!
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Old May 02, 2018, 16:47   #70
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Sad really - most people cannot fathom that a told history is largely “Bunk”!
not so much bunk as completely scripted.

some examples:

Did the Reich crush bones ?
ugh' yeah but the purpose was not to hide shit, they reduced them to bone meal and the machines were actually pretty small. Not "huge":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonder...ation_camp.png

That is the only real pic of a Nazi bone mill
This was being done to produce bone meal fertilizer.

Story is the Nazis had the mass graves exhumed and the remains burned, the bones reduced to meal. That's the root of V's haberdashery.

I'll I mentioned was the crematoria lifespans

Fueling is another matter
I mean how as this being done ?
Did the Nazis have some special technology they stole from the Grey Aliens ?
seemingly so...
obviously Extraterestial Collusion huh...

The reich had very little resources, no petrol to speak of.

V likely thinks the Reptiliods did this with Plasma furnaces
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Old May 03, 2018, 07:25   #71
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonder...ation_camp.png

That is the only real pic of a Nazi bone mill
This was being done to produce bone meal fertilizer.
Your link also mentions gloves and soap. Of course, these are on display in a museum in Kiev. I wouldn't be surprised if the pic of the "bone mill" wasn't a composting drum, completely unrelated to the war....not that that sort of propaganda has ever happened....
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a reminder marty:

it wasn't just Nazis wearing Grey or Green body bags

pretty much everyone's boys did
Genocidal wars of extinction get like that' and fire is fought with fire,,, it's the natural order of things and humankind,,, strict Rules of Engagement being for losers,,, more's the pity,,, the depths of human derogation are deep.
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Genocidal wars of extinction get like that' and fire is fought with fire,,, it's the natural order of things and humankind,,, strict Rules of Engagement being for losers,,, more's the pity,,, the depths of human derogation are deep.
With that logic, wiping out an entire population is justified. Kinda makes it hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys, don't it?

"I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal...."
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He did what he had to do to win....and he understood what makes a war criminal. (being on the losing side)
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Your link also mentions gloves and soap. Of course, these are on display in a museum in Kiev. I wouldn't be surprised if the pic of the "bone mill" wasn't a composting drum, completely unrelated to the war....not that that sort of propaganda has ever happened....
True all that Ted. Thing is I don't have much trouble with Nazis milling bone, what kind of bone ?
Who knows.

Some places in the American upper midwest had sizable bone milling operations. Much of the Plains were strewn with Buffalo bone, later there were slaughter houses and then think in terms of the number of horses.

that pic shows a rather small mill, something typical of the American West that would be behind the town elevator to produce bone meal.
Here many communities had town grinders for fish. Net up a mess of them, grind them and till them into your family garden. Drayton ND still has their public grinder in the City Park from when locals netted out of the Red River.

So much of the "evidence" seems generated by the Soviets who always blamed the Germans for what turned out to be Red Army slaughters like Katyn.
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Germans and the Nazis are/were the worlds biggest shitheads.
Always were.

Now, the 57 million Euro people killed during WWII in Europe, and the 10-15 Germans dead, during and after the war, is just bogus jewish propaganda?

I guess the minor factor the Jews played, in only 6 million of them dying in the extermination gas chambers and crematoriums, has confounded you.

7 million other Euro old and young--not jewish, who could not work were sent to the extermination camps for a total of 13 million gassed and cremated.

12-15 enslaved Euro workers, NOT JEWISH, AND NOT VOLUNTEERS ON AN ez ASSIGNMENT, also died in the concentration camps that supplied Nazi factories with labor. They too, were buried and cremated near the factories.

27 million Russians died, 10-15 Germans died many millions in the Russian Campaigns.

Grand total of about 70 million caused by psycho assholes in the SS and Army, who were not even socialized beyond the ability to say Heil Hitler and take a piss. Animals.

Those Hitler youth, trained in the 1930's were mostly exterminated by the end, for the sake of the world.

I worked with a fellow, now dead, who was in the Hitler youth in the summer of 1938. He had gone to visit his uncle in 1938 for a year, and was retrieved by his parents and forced back to America in 1939. He never got over his anger at them. He was drafted and sent to the Pacific and was an AAF fireman at landing strips. He hated it they would not let him fight due to his attitude and background as a H youth.

Even in his anger, years later, he hated the Jews and those US soldiers who fought in Germany. He had tragedies in his life that I will not mention, but his pro nazi attitude consumed him.


How you can claim that the 70 million dead, was only caused by Jewish bakers gone crazy, or that the numbers are all skewed and untrue, and do not include normal actuarial death rates................. is just utter bullshit

Admiration of a pile of manure by a farmer is much healthier than admiration of anything Nazi or SS or Gestapo or Abwehr, or any of the other militarized Nazi SS type police units that Hitler created to keep the German people in submission and out there killing at his command. At least with a manure pile you can fertilize the gound; you pollute the ground with nazi dead.

That so many German people claimed not to be Nazis after the war, reveals just how loathed Hitler was. The Trials were the best part of the war and the hangings of the Nazis. It had to be.

Bones were a big problem at the crematoriums. 13 million skeletons left a lot of unburned bones to crush and transport somewhere, to hide what they had done.
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Germans and the Nazis are/were the worlds biggest shitheads.
Always were.

Now, the 57 million Euro people killed during WWII in Europe, and the 10-15 Germans dead, during and after the war, is just bogus jewish propaganda?

I guess the minor factor the Jews played, in only 6 million of them dying in the extermination gas chambers and crematoriums, has confounded you.

7 million other Euro old and young--not jewish, who could not work were sent to the extermination camps for a total of 13 million gassed and cremated.

12-15 enslaved Euro workers, NOT JEWISH, AND NOT VOLUNTEERS ON AN ez ASSIGNMENT, also died in the concentration camps that supplied Nazi factories with labor. They too, were buried and cremated near the factories.

27 million Russians died, 10-15 Germans died many millions in the Russian Campaigns.

Grand total of about 70 million caused by psycho assholes in the SS and Army, who were not even socialized beyond the ability to say Heil Hitler and take a piss. Animals.

Those Hitler youth, trained in the 1930's were mostly exterminated by the end, for the sake of the world.

I worked with a fellow, now dead, who was in the Hitler youth in the summer of 1938. He had gone to visit his uncle in 1938 for a year, and was retrieved by his parents and forced back to America in 1939. He never got over his anger at them. He was drafted and sent to the Pacific and was an AAF fireman at landing strips. He hated it they would not let him fight due to his attitude and background as a H youth.

Even in his anger, years later, he hated the Jews and those US soldiers who fought in Germany. He had tragedies in his life that I will not mention, but his pro nazi attitude consumed him.


How you can claim that the 70 million dead, was only caused by Jewish bakers gone crazy, or that the numbers are all skewed and untrue, and do not include normal actuarial death rates................. is just utter bullshit

Admiration of a pile of manure by a farmer is much healthier than admiration of anything Nazi or SS or Gestapo or Abwehr, or any of the other militarized Nazi SS type police units that Hitler created to keep the German people in submission and out there killing at his command. At least with a manure pile you can fertilize the gound; you pollute the ground with nazi dead.

That so many German people claimed not to be Nazis after the war, reveals just how loathed Hitler was. The Trials were the best part of the war and the hangings of the Nazis. It had to be.

Bones were a big problem at the crematoriums. 13 million skeletons left a lot of unburned bones to crush and transport somewhere, to hide what they had done.
Again, how many 2008 Obama voters admit to that bad choice ?
Quite a few do not.
It was even more complex in Germany, facts are the vast majority were NEVER Party members any more than the majority of America supported the Progressive agenda in 08 and 12
Half the nation don't vote so you have a minority faction doing the electing.
it became worse in Germany where there was only one party really and most didn't even belong to it.
So yeah Nazis were indeed loathed by many Germans but what can you do about it ?
Revolt ?
Do you see that happening in your State...

The propaganda was not "Jewish"
again most of it was Soviet sourced

Yes millions died
my main point of order is you can not blame one side for the actions of the other. Soviets constantly did so and you just devour it like a Coyote at a gut pile.
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