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Old June 12, 2019, 02:37   #1
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Found an Hensoldt for my STG58

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I was seeking for some scope mount for my STG58 despite knowing non were ever scoped. I found an belgian strap mount but I got some issue with straps and i'm waiting for some to mount a 1" modern scope on it but but... I found an Hensoldt Fal g1 mount and optics in the meanwhile.

Reading this forum is probably not a good thing for my (or anyone) wallet but I cannot resist the same finish mount and an original scope...

Scope is dated from 09/75 and is a type 1, seems to come from german border forces. I don't know if I can grab some more info of it. It is almost new, optic being crystal clear. My STG58 serial seems to date it to 1974 (1574XX) so they are fitting nice together :-)

So here are some photos :


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Old June 12, 2019, 04:52   #2
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It looks great and the scope is in excellent condition.
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Old June 12, 2019, 05:50   #3
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That scope looks brand new
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Old June 12, 2019, 08:16   #4
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Can we see some pictures of the receiver please? Inside and out? We don't get many opportunities to see legit Type III StG's in the US.
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Beautiful example of both FAL and Hensoldt.
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Old June 12, 2019, 08:36   #6
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Sure here are some I took, as i said in a previous post mine is on the serial range 1574XX, all matching parts only the mag is not an Austrian one . Barrel is StLf3 with chrome chamber and very clean and bright bore and tube (looking chrome lined but read no STG58 was). The finish shows some wears and trace that are probably rust on parkerisation (brownish).

There are several BH9 regiment marking and proof marks. No identification of manufacturing year that i could found. Here are some pictures :






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Old June 12, 2019, 11:16   #7
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Where are you finding the 1" straps for the older mount. I have a strap mount that I would like to mount modern optics on. might have to make some out of some banding material.
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Old June 12, 2019, 11:22   #8
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Look at the pics a little closer....it's not a strap mount.
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Old June 12, 2019, 11:24   #9
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Have you tried cleaning the brown off? It looks more like cosmoline
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Where are you finding the 1" straps for the older mount. I have a strap mount that I would like to mount modern optics on. might have to make some out of some banding material.
There is a company in the US which sells a roll of flat banding material which is blued however it is slightly narrower than the original straps and they work just fine.
Member Falcon posted the source several years ago and you may want to contact him if you need an entire roll.
If you need just two pieces about 7 inches long for a 1 inch scope and you will cut your own (not difficult) send me a PM.

A set up like this will make it easier:

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Old June 12, 2019, 12:13   #11
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Where are you finding the 1" straps for the older mount. I have a strap mount that I would like to mount modern optics on. might have to make some out of some banding material.
I've buyed some here but not received yet (I'll report when they Come). They are from CZ :
http://www.continentalmilitaria.com/...P-sniper-mount
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Look at the pics a little closer....it's not a strap mount.
I've found a belgian strap mount before getting the stanag. Straps were longer than usual. I've purchased some for a classic 1" scope mount (to have a second mount with an "up to date" scope).

https://i.imgur.com/xEnu4SEr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WnT4Nah.jpg

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Old June 12, 2019, 12:21   #13
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Have you tried cleaning the brown off? It looks more like cosmoline
To be honest not very hard. Tried the usual cleaning method to me which is Brunox Turbo spray on non abrasive towel being afraid to scratch anything.

What are your suggestions ? Nylon brush ? If it's cosmoline I'll be in Fal heaven. Will give a try on the dust cover thanks

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I've buyed some here but not received yet (I'll report when they Come). They are from CZ :
http://www.continentalmilitaria.com/...P-sniper-mount
Let us know how they work out on a 1 inch tube, I think they are for a 7/8 inch scope tube like the OIP and G1 Hensoldt.
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To be honest not very hard. Tried the usual cleaning method to me which is Brunox Turbo spray on non abrasive towel being afraid to scratch anything.

What are your suggestions ? Nylon brush ? If it's cosmoline I'll be in Fal heaven. Will give a try on the dust cover thanks
Something like WD40, mineral spirits, gun bore solvent, etc. I'm not familiar with the product you speak of. Nylon brush is ok or a cloth. The StG kits sent here sometimes looked similar from years of storage.
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Old June 16, 2019, 09:08   #16
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Something like WD40, mineral spirits, gun bore solvent, etc. I'm not familiar with the product you speak of. Nylon brush is ok or a cloth. The StG kits sent here sometimes looked similar from years of storage.
Thanks meltblown, used some paint thinner, and despite still having some work to do, most of the brown disapear :-)
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Old June 16, 2019, 09:12   #17
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Nice find! What kind of reticle does it have?
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Nice find! What kind of reticle does it have?
Traditionnal german reticle like this :
https://images.app.goo.gl/gZ8nabdnXgLZqW1C7

Very clear optics, not a lot of eye relief. Very cool to have one :-)
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Old June 18, 2019, 07:05   #19
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Let us know how they work out on a 1 inch tube, I think they are for a 7/8 inch scope tube like the OIP and G1 Hensoldt.
Got the strap today. Yes they are a bit short but can work for a 1" scope as you can tighten them. Finish was said to be blued but that's a very basic finish.



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Okay, fire it several times and let us know if the scope hold its zero.
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Okay, fire it several times and let us know if the scope hold its zero.
I'll probably try to cut the center aperture of the strap to gain the length needed. For shooting it with this mount scoped i'll have to wait as that's not the priority (the scope pictured is a Nikon 4-16...).
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Let me better understand your process.
If you are enlarging the screw hole apertures alone that will not provide extra length.
If you are speaking about the elongated cut where the "T" end locks into place you might just get enought length, however cutting to the edge too thin may result in a breakage of the strap when tightening the screws.
Also, you just might have to enlarge the screw hole apertures just a little to prevent any binding.

I have broken enought straps in my time by over stretching straps for larger scopes.

Let me know how it works out in smaller photos, please.

Permettez-moi de mieux comprendre votre processus.
Si vous agrandissez les ouvertures des trous de vis seules, cela ne fournira pas une longueur supplémentaire.
Si vous parlez de la coupe allongée où l'extrémité "T" se verrouille, vous pouvez obtenir une longueur suffisante. Toutefois, une coupe trop fine peut entraîner une rupture de la sangle lors du serrage des vis.
En outre, vous devrez peut-être juste agrandir un peu les ouvertures des trous de vis pour éviter toute contrain
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scope looks just like new congratulations.
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The radius of the saddle isn't 1" if I recall. The modern scope won't seat in it properly.
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Nice scope. Very rare to find one that condition.

I went with a Steiner that I found at a pawn shop. Brand new in the box.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=439554
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Old June 20, 2019, 03:27   #26
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We have two horses to ride on this topic :-)

Related to the belgian strap mount, i've tried to enlarge both the screw aperture and the elongated one. Succeed to gain the length but without the right tool the metal bands can scratch the scope in the process...

Related to the Hensoldt, thanks for all the feedback. I'll probably ending enjoying this one and not bother with the straps any more.
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Nice scope. Very rare to find one that condition.

I went with a Steiner that I found at a pawn shop. Brand new in the box.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=439554
Great riFAL and scope, what are those Steiner scopes ? Seems to be a Green Hensoldt :-)
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