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Old October 16, 2018, 15:10   #1
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Neat RFI L1A on GB

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Old October 16, 2018, 16:01   #2
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Old October 16, 2018, 16:01   #3
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Interesting receiver markings.

I can forgive the Izzy BHO, but the machining on the receiver is a giveaway.

The model is 1A1, not L1A

The receiver markings should be engraved, not stamped.

MM should be mm

No period after RIFLE and it should be sans serif. Lightening cut terminations completely wrong radius both sides.

So what I see is a mediocre to fake receiver with an Indian parts kit, which may be contraband depending on the receiver status prior to modification.
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Old October 16, 2018, 16:38   #4
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The R.F.I 1962 is totally wrong the letters are tilted. The R has been double struck and the I is not on the same plane. All the markings look like they were done free hand with a harbor freight punch set.
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Old October 16, 2018, 18:49   #5
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Yeah, looks like an Onyx or Armscorp receiver that somebody humped up.
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Old October 17, 2018, 09:04   #6
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That's what I love about FALFILES; there is no fooling the experts here. I learn something new every time I click a thread. This is THE place for any and all information FAL related.

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Old October 17, 2018, 09:15   #7
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Yep, that receiver is not right. I was more in awe of how nice the Indian parts condition are on it and missed it. The receiver looks modified from a type 3, it's missing the mag well lightening cut as well.
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Yeah, looks like an Onyx or Armscorp receiver that somebody humped up.
a damned shame that somebody fugged up a perfectly good receiver for a fraud.
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Old October 18, 2018, 07:53   #9
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Thanks Jarhead504 you are spot on about the guys on here! I though the receiver did not look "right" but did not know why, now I do. Thanks to the experts on here
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a damned shame that somebody fugged up a perfectly good receiver for a fraud.
There is nothing to say the one who did the work, did so to deceive and not just for self-satisfaction.

What someone else does with it later, is not on the first guy.

Now since I've already informed the seller that it is a poor replica, and not an original, and the seller has not changed the listing - we know the seller (Ob1gr) OBIAntiqueFirearms.com, is a crook.
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haven't been on this site for close to 10 years now....and I certainly remember why. Please be careful with your wording and accusations as these are claims that aren't taken lightly.
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haven't been on this site for close to 10 years now....and I certainly remember why. Please be careful with your wording and accusations as these are claims that aren't taken lightly.
I am not one to misuse the English Language.

I put you on notice 48+ hours ago.

You are now knowingly falsely advertising the product.

YOU ARE A CROOK!
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Old October 18, 2018, 10:57   #14
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put us "on notice"? didn't realize that we answer to you. that being said, we're only just getting to our emails now. perhaps, instead of simply spouting off, you post a picture of what a proper one is supposed to look like? keep in mind that not everyone cares for or respects your opinion when it's not backed up. educating people as opposed to simply being an "arrogant bastard" as it states you are right under your user name is much more beneficial wouldn't you think?
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put us "on notice"? didn't realize that we answer to you. that being said, we're only just getting to our emails now. perhaps, instead of simply spouting off, you post a picture of what a proper one is supposed to look like? keep in mind that not everyone cares for or respects your opinion when it's not backed up. educating people as opposed to simply being an "arrogant bastard" as it states you are right under your user name is much more beneficial wouldn't you think?
You don't answer to me. And I have no power to make you change your bogus listing, other than perhaps shaming you into doing so. And failing that, doing what I can to "spread the word" so as to lessen your ability to rip anyone off.

Nor am I swayed by your veiled threats. When I make a public assertion that YOU ARE A CROOK, it is with a far greater understanding of the components of defamation, defamation per se, slander, and libel, than you. There is a reason that I put you on notice and gave you the opportunity to correct your error, prior to asserting that YOU ARE A CROOK. That's the difference between being mistaken, and lying.

The points that indicate your rifle is not as advertised have been clearly identified in this thread, not the least of which is the person who did the work, didn't even get the model correct.

Truth is an affirmative defense, bitch! So take your "claims that aren't taken lightly" and shove them up your con-artist ass!
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you really are a total douchebag aren't you? well....the threats aren't veiled and we'll happily follow through. in short, try not to choke as you stuff the entire bag of dicks down your throat
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you really are a total douchebag aren't you? well....the threats aren't veiled and we'll happily follow through. in short, try not to choke as you stuff the entire bag of dicks down your throat
Bring it, Bitch!

And just so we are clear . . .

I, T. Mark Graham, internationally recognized expert in the field*, put on notice, OBIAntiqueFirearms.com (represented by Files member obi1gr) that the rifle they are listing on GunBroker is not as described. Inasmuch as obi1gr refused to correct the listing, I assert that obi1gr is a crook, knowingly misrepresenting his product.


*this lowers your burden, but alas, you still have no claim.
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Guessing only crickets now One hell of a slap down!
Again thanks Mark and others. This choice of the FAL gun fancy is not cheap by any means and we all would like to get our hand on a rare model but this is not the way to do it, all ways get the expert advice from the Files!
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you really are a total douchebag aren't you? well....the threats aren't veiled and we'll happily follow through. in short, try not to choke as you stuff the entire bag of dicks down your throat
mark is a douchebag, but you are a fraud. your gunbroker advertisement is deliberate fraud.

it is a shame there is no mechanism on GB for reporting frauds like you.
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FAKE Ia1

obi1gr You never bothered to check on the internet before you bought that weapon? Or did you make it? As it's a total FAKE RECEIVER, It was most likely a Imbel receiver that some one DIDN't do a VERY GOOD JOB on that receiver. A IA1 receiver has a straight long square mill CUT on the outside of the mag well and also were the carry handle cut is about 2 inches below that is a long re-enforcement rib that strengthen's the torque of the rounds being fired.

Mark might be a arrogant bastard,BUT AT LEAST HE BACKS IT UP with real world EVIDENCE.
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What would the market value of a genuine Indian 1A1 be? Asking for a friend of course?
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....and itís pulled...
"pending further research, we are pulling this listing as a few items have been brought to our attention on it."






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The ad has indeed been pulled. Let's cut the seller some slack. Give him the chance to look at the info you guys gave him and make a determination on where to go from here. That he pulled his listing, tells me that he isn't a crook and wants to post a correct and truthful WTS listing.
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I sent him a PM asking about the sear cut. Doesn't look like there was intent to defraud here. Just a guy that didn't know what an Indian receiver was supposed to look like.
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