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Old April 21, 2017, 19:47   #451
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I have three painted Rhodies and one left black.
^^^^ That.

A black R1 can represent both South Africa and early Rhodesia--they got FALs/R1s beginning in 1968 and didn't camo-paint them until the mid-late 70s.
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Old April 21, 2017, 20:04   #452
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^^^^ That.

A black R1 can represent both South Africa and early Rhodesia--they got FALs/R1s beginning in 1968 and didn't camo-paint them until the mid-late 70s.
Yeah I can't argue with having two of both, but the fact remains is I don't have three R1 receivers and a limited budget
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Yeah I can't argue with having two of both, but the fact remains is I don't have three R1 receivers and a limited budget

I would hazard to guess that we are all there to some extent. I only have one R1 receiver, which I am currently building, and would love to own a couple more for my remaining kits. But alas..., I don't, and don't have 5 bills a piece for them so I will probably build those kits on type ones. To round out my Rhodie collection I am doing my last builds as non-poop R1s. I am using DuraBlue on my current R1 build and just finished coating the receiver.


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You guys are killing me now that I sold my Rhodie!
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Old April 22, 2017, 11:34   #455
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Old May 24, 2017, 16:30   #456
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South Africa also painted the rifles at some point, I have a magazine that I believe is original border war era camo paint?
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That stock looks familiar.
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Old May 24, 2017, 17:06   #458
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South Africa also painted the rifles at some point, I have a magazine that I believe is original border war era camo paint?
I know the SADF also painted rifles a brown color.
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I know the SADF also painted rifles a brown color.
they did, a tan-brown and green. Spray painted.

Neil posted a good comparison with mags in this thread: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309333
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Thanx for the photo my one looks exactly like that one in the bottom row, it was sprayed while in the rifle. I bought a few and my plan was to cerakote them. But I am going to leave the painted one in original condition, a piece of history in my hands!
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Thanx for the photo my one looks exactly like that one in the bottom row, it was sprayed while in the rifle. I bought a few and my plan was to cerakote them. But I am going to leave the painted one in original condition, a piece of history in my hands!
i would definitely agree with that plan!
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Old June 02, 2017, 08:24   #462
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crummy pics of a couple projects back from Magnum Gunsmithing.
*Mind the improper carbine, I have always wanted a Rhodie carbine, used the one earlier in this thread as inspiration. Will be getting painted this weekend and end up sporting a Dead Air flash hider for suppressed use.

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Sheesh... at least paint the receiver on the carbine.



Those look great, especially the R1.

One minor point: flash hiders and grenade sights were not painted. If they were, the trooper could usually expect some not-so-nice reward for his indiscretion.
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Sheesh... at least paint the receiver on the carbine.



Those look great, especially the R1.

One minor point: flash hiders and grenade sights were not painted. If they were, the trooper could usually expect some not-so-nice reward for his indiscretion.
first coat is drying on the carbine as we speak. Good to note on the muzzle device, but I did not realize on the grenade sight. Ive had SADF nutria brown ones and swear I have seen Rhodie painted ones as well. But I can easily remove and remedy that.
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Now i just have to get the parts for a Rhodie Para....
Paint is all original except barrels, receivers, top cover on the carbine, mag in carbine, charging handles and trigger guards....











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Now i just have to get the parts for a Rhodie Para....
Paint is all original except barrels, receivers, top cover on the carbine, mag in carbine, charging handles and trigger guards....

These look really good. I would recommend a little rub down with some used motor oil on newly painted surfaces for 10 - 20 minutes in a 200 degree oven. Remove, let cool a little, and then rub the oil in and then off well before it cools.
The freshly painted parts will look much nicer. I still need to do this same thin on a couple of my builds too.
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These look really good. I would recommend a little rub down with some used motor oil on newly painted surfaces for 10 - 20 minutes in a 200 degree oven. Remove, let cool a little, and then rub the oil in and then off well before it cools.
The freshly painted parts will look much nicer. I still need to do this same thin on a couple of my builds too.
thanks, the shine on the carbine is used motor oil i havent wiped off yet. I took the initial gloss off with acetone and then wiped the whole thing down with motor oil. Granted my oil doesnt get as dark as most as i change often, but I just picked up a 1989 CRX that looks like it has the kind of filth I'm looking for

I didnt bake though... I will try that out when my GF is out
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These look really good. I would recommend a little rub down with some used motor oil on newly painted surfaces for 10 - 20 minutes in a 200 degree oven. Remove, let cool a little, and then rub the oil in and then off well before it cools.
The freshly painted parts will look much nicer. I still need to do this same thin on a couple of my builds too.
Rhodesian weapon camouflage was vehicle paint applied with a sock.

Doing weird things like baking, wearing, etc. isn't "authentic".
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Rhodesian weapon camouflage was vehicle paint applied with a sock.

Doing weird things like baking, wearing, etc. isn't "authentic".
Sock, rope, rag, rare cases a brush.

Remember, the paint was new at one point, although I do like take some of the glare off the finish with oil and some dirt.

Eternal: Fantastic rifles. I hope they shoot well for ya.

I paint the base of the grenade sight but leave the ladder section unpainted.
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South Africa and Rhodesian FALs

Rhodesia unilaterally declared independence from England. The idea that the United States would beat up on a nation for doing the same thing that we did would be laughable if the consequences were not so dire. Dandy Andy Young and Jemmah Cahtuh should be ashamed..if they were capable. Rhodesia asked for no American blood but some beans and bullets might have helped. They already had a great rifle! *G*
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I think he is looking for rhodesian camouflage pattern goods, not the paint.
I've been looking for awhile, cant find any. I want to do a custom chest rig in it...

I assume that you know about Trident Military. I got a repro piece to fill out some uniform stuff. www.tridentmilitary.com/SouthAfrican.htm. Don't know if the sell material though.
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I assume that you know about Trident Military. I got a repro piece to fill out some uniform stuff. www.tridentmilitary.com/SouthAfrican.htm. Don't know if the sell material though.
As far as I've heard, Trident hasn't updated their stock in years. I'd be surprised if those items are actually on-hand.

There's a group-buy going on on the New Rhodesian Forum by member "Pedro Pato." I'm pretty sure he's on Facebook, too, although I don't partake in those shenanigans, so I couldn't say for certain. Shirts are undergoing final review and should be on their way shortly. Trousers, combat jackets, and bush and "c**t" caps will be near-future projects. I've dealt with him a few times to get South African LBE, and he's a first-rate seller.
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Lew;

Back when I used to shoot NCPL with a couple ex-pat Rhodesian guys. One of them set me up with shirt, trousers and a "mudflap" cap.

I was talked out of the original trou and cap by a student who was a serious collector whereas I am not. Kept the shirt, which is nearly brand new, and the piece I referred to as having bought from Trident was a copy-cat mudflap cap.

I have a chest rig someplace but don't use it any more, I run a newer one in pattern when I run the Border with the FAL.
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BW: Very cool, ya lucky dog. Original uniforms come up from time-to-time, but, since I will actually wear it in the field, I prefer to abuse a set of repros instead. That, and not paying the premium originals command.
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I was indeed lucky, and have oft regretted parting with the trousers and headgear. I keep the shirt more for nostalgia's sake and got the repro cap to go along.

Alas, alack...many stumbles on "memory lane".
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As far as I've heard, Trident hasn't updated their stock in years. I'd be surprised if those items are actually on-hand.
Trident also doesn't respond to emails, regardless of how many you send them, or if you want to throw money at them. Sarco has some modified brustroke pattern gear, there's a member here who is gearing up to make modern repros (The Aloha guy or something, and finally a Canadian company (Fire something) that's selling repro gear.

The best option I've seen is folks picking up rolls of fabric, and having gear made for them.

Still for practical use, modern cuts with ripstop on a pattern similar to the original is the best for me. YMMV.
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Sarco's offering is of the Pakistani brushstroke pattern.

There are also a couple of makers in South Africa- Bertus de Beer and Jay Nel. de Beer responded to my initial e-mails and then went dark, even though I was ready to order. He also makes clothing for Vintage Operator Gear on fleabay, although I haven't seen any in quite some time. Nel has been much easier to communicate with, and I'll get some items from him in month or two.
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Contributing one to the pile:

DSA R1 receiver with IMBEL kit, built by ARS.
Long SA stock and grenade sight.
Carry handle removed!

Rhodesian BDU is a custom run, it's the most accurate pattern reproduction I'm aware of. Was sewn up by Tru-Spec with custom fabric.
They made everything from shortie-shorts, to BDUs, to UBACs, to boonies.

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Contributing one to the pile:

DSA R1 receiver with IMBEL kit, built by ARS.
Long SA stock and grenade sight.
Carry handle removed!

Rhodesian BDU is a custom run, it's the most accurate pattern reproduction I'm aware of. Was sewn up by Tru-Spec with custom fabric.
They made everything from shortie-shorts, to BDUs, to UBACs, to boonies.

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Well i should probably re-up my images of my proper R1 clone, but I did just get the last piece (suppressor mount) for my bastard Rhodie carbine....
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I temporarily wish I had more thumbs to give that gorgeous rifle more thumbs up.

Suppressor aside, I'd paint over the rack number, since the Rhodesians never used those.
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I temporarily wish I had more thumbs to give that gorgeous rifle more thumbs up.

Suppressor aside, I'd paint over the rack number, since the Rhodesians never used those.
Thanks, didnt some have it?

I think if anything, I will try to scrub just the number off. I really don't want to paint over original stuff. This rifle is the most painted of my two rhodies, it has the barrel, cover, HG ring, and receiver painted, I tried to source as much original as i could.

Not being a pure clone, I may even end up added a carry handle
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One thing to note, that despite looking like it's taller than me, i'ts only 3.5" longer than the R1 with long stock
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I temporarily wish I had more thumbs to give that gorgeous rifle more thumbs up.

Suppressor aside, I'd paint over the rack number, since the Rhodesians never used those.
eternal your build looks great. IMHO, I personally wouldn't remove the rack number. But then again I am rather partial to those numbered FALs........


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Thanks, didnt some have it?

I think if anything, I will try to scrub just the number off. I really don't want to paint over original stuff. This rifle is the most painted of my two rhodies, it has the barrel, cover, HG ring, and receiver painted, I tried to source as much original as i could.

Not being a pure clone, I may even end up added a carry handle
I have the sneaking suspicion that that picture was taken almost immediately post-independence. The ZNA did apply rack numbers, and they used the Rhodesian camo- both uniforms and on the rifles- for years afterward. Either way, cool picture.
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Finally got off my ass and snapped some pictures of my current collection. All seven were put together by yers truly. My brother is out of town, otherwise, I'd have his Rhodesian clone thrown in there. The pair- one painted, one not- are the first two I had around 2006. Sold them both. I don't regret selling the painted one, but I do regret selling the other. No worries, as I've basically recreated it.

The five in the other picture set are the current stablemates. The one on the left is a Portuguese m962 clone. The rest are all Rhodesian clones- two R1 receivers (unpainted), two Type 2's (painted 50.00 and Para). Still debating whether or not to paint the DSA titanium muzzle device on the rifle with the 30 round mag. I have some Rustoleum 7777 (paint used on the m962 clone) and some stove paint. The latter would probably work nicely.

Yes, two of those have bicycle inner tubes tied around the grenade sight. One needs it, the other's just for insurance. I really don't care if that modification is historically-accurate or not, but it works and is easily reversible.

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Beautiful collection of Rhodesian FALs.
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Thanks guys! They shoot as well they look.
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lew inspired me to post my Rhodies builds thus far. I am currently working on a RA marked South African para so it is never ending....... The para is my Registered SBR built on a RA Marked para lower with an SA military stock. Her big brother is an Imbel just to show the scale of her little stature. The blued build is a double matching rifle; all serialed parts - barrel, lower, bolt, and carrier, match both serial numbers and RA numbers. The 3 camo examples are matching RA builds with most of the paint being original. All of the stocks, grips, handguards, and magazines retain original paint, while two of the rifles also have original painted lowers and one original painted topcover.

I also included my Rhodie G3. This is an original RA marked G3 FMP kit I built on an FMP G3 receiver adorned with original Rhodie painted furniture and magazine.


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That's a shitty-looking collection (all-black R1 clone and SBR excepted) ya got going there.

The thing that appeals most to me about southern African FALs is their workhorse nature. They weren't babied, but were expected to be dragged through hell- with all the character that imparts- and back and still keep functioning.
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bravo to both of you.

Really regretting selling my clean R1.

But G3isMe, you inspired me to convert my Bren mag a la Rhodie
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Beautiful looking riFals Lew and G3isMe!
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Thanks to the both of ya's!
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Well, I lost all my images to those shiesters at PhotoBucket. Adding these to the thread again. My wonderful Rhodesian kit gun built upon one of the DSA R1 receivers. I have been an avid reader of all things Rhodesia since I was little, and first saw the Rhodesian recruiting poster in a Soldier of Fortune magazine. For whatever reason, that made an impression on me early on, and have read anything related that I could get my hands on. I just happened upon this rifle, and it is the prize of the lot.

I did add one of those odd HALBECK muzzle devices to the end. Does it do anything? I don't know, but adds the Mad Max aura of the whole affair.



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.... I just happened upon this rifle, and it is the prize of the lot.

I did add one of those odd HALBECK muzzle devices to the end. Does it do anything? I don't know, but adds the Mad Max aura of the whole affair.

Nice...I can see why this is the prize of the lot.........
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VA Plinker: Thanks for taking the time to repost that gorgeous rifle.

I had a Halbek device years ago. It put a lot of weight on the muzzle, but it sure did a great job of controlling the muzzle.
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... it sure did a great job of controlling the muzzle.
So a Halbek and an R selector with a ground off beak go hand in hand...
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