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Old June 13, 2018, 09:04   #1
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Has SIG gotten to big and lost quality?

Well,

Saw that over on Military Arms Channel they are selling SIG shirts that have Seriously Incompetent Gunmaker.

After seeing and being involved first hand in the M17-M18 MHS testing and seeing the parts issues with the P-365 I know SIG has serious problem with subcontractors.

Have they moved to fast here in the US?

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Old June 13, 2018, 20:30   #2
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Maybe so. They seem to have a lot of fingers in different pies and produce a bazillion variations of guns. Some of their stuff is a hit on the market and they've had some duds too. I guess on one hand they are not afraid to try stuff.
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Old June 13, 2018, 20:38   #3
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I have one of their 556R's (7.62x39)that I would be hard pressed to sell. Boringly accurate out to 350. It's the model with the aluminum quadrails. The only reason I ended up with it is that it is that the Gen I had garnered a horrible reputation for the magwell wearing excessively from the insertion of mags. The Gen II model had the problem corrected (stainless insert) but the model had left a bad taste in folks mouth. Got it for the princely sum of $580 NIB with a factory 4x prism scope. Never have had one failure from it.

Have a 522R (.22LR) had a problem with ejection but they sent a replacement recoil spring assembly and it cured it.

I think they try to rush things into production too quickly to recover their R&D cost and depend on their customers to trouble shoot problems for them.

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Old June 13, 2018, 20:53   #4
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Sig moving into polymer pistols like FN. Not impressed Everyone makes an AR too
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Old June 14, 2018, 11:41   #5
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Their MIM parts out of India aren't doing them any favors. Their QA/QC took a shit long ago. SIG is all over the map: some products are brilliant, and some are hit-or-miss. I remember being psyched to get a P226 Legion a couple years ago and immediately quashed that thought after shooting a couple.
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Old June 14, 2018, 16:39   #6
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Well, there really are Two SIGs

One is in Germany, the other in America

The German made products are extremely High Quality
Then you have those manufactured here for the American market

For example if you get a chance look over a 232
German built .380 intended for the European market
They are beautiful quality pistols that will never be imported again thanks to Obama transhipping an assload to Columbia which Germany regards as a conflict zone.

As it stands, all German SIG products are now banned from Export to America, this prohibition includes all parts as well.

SIG America is in no way an equal to SIG Germany
It's more like Taurus versus a true Italian manufactured Beretta
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Old June 14, 2018, 19:51   #7
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Old June 14, 2018, 19:51   #8
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I'll buy a Swiss made SIG without hesitation providing I can afford it.
I'll buy a German made SIG IF I can't get it made by the Swiss.

I won't even consider a US made sig.
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I'll buy a Swiss made SIG without hesitation providing I can afford it.
I'll buy a German made SIG IF I can't get it made by the Swiss.

I won't even consider a US made sig.
This sums it up very well.
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I'll buy a Swiss made SIG without hesitation providing I can afford it.
I'll buy a German made SIG IF I can't get it made by the Swiss.

I won't even consider a US made sig.
My sentiments on SIG as well.
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