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Old January 04, 2019, 22:55   #101
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Wait....is there an awards class for ďBest Graphs & Pie ChartsĒ?

If there is a Mule Award there should also be a Pencil Neck award!
No more Mule at my matches. People get stupid and someone will blow a knee or a spine or something. Pencil Neck is up to you. ;-)
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Old January 04, 2019, 22:56   #102
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All that makes me want to put the plates back on.
Because fewer are going Combat Class and you'll have less competition, or because all the cool kids are going Combat and you want to be like them?
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Old January 04, 2019, 23:24   #103
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Shots fired!
Just blanks.

Although ďNerd AwardĒ sounds friendlier.
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Because fewer are going Combat Class and you'll have less competition, or because all the cool kids are going Combat and you want to be like them?
Yes.
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Old January 07, 2019, 15:30   #105
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I am pleased to announce Resiliency Outreach, Inc. will have three shooters running with the Staff on Friday, and CEO and former 5th Special Forces Group Sergeant Pat Russell will be on hand to talk about his various projects helping veterans on Saturday and Sunday.

Money is always appreciated, but there are many other ways you can help if you want to get involved. Check out https://resiliencyoutreach.org/ for more information.

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Some of you planning ahead and paying attention noticed a small blurb in the Course of Fire (downloadable on the Practiscore match page): "Get yourself and all your gear over a 6í high wall" and had some questions and concerns. I'm posting here to make it fair for everyone.

Yes, there will be a 6' high wall. Getting over a wall is a very real-world applicable skill and is something I definitely want to test. It will be vertical - no angles. It will have NO ropes, steps, handholds, etc. - it's just a wall. It will be 8' wide to allow more than one competitor to go over it at a time. But still - if you're struggling with the wall and another competitor comes up behind you, give them some room and learn from how they get over - then copy them!

There is no "bypass" or "take the penalty and go on" provision for this or any other obstacle. You must complete it in order to continue. My ROs on-site have the authority to modify the challenge on a case by case basis as necessary - but only in very extreme situations (such as if a competitor has no arms).

Make plans to figure out a way to do this, using only the gear you carry and your body itself. You are more than welcome to use a ladder - but you have to carry that ladder throughout the entire course! My hope is that everyone easily flies over the 6' wall this year, and we raise it to an 8' wall next year.

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Iím betting if a person with no arms is runniní and gunniní at Rockcastle that there would be zero chance that competitor would accept a pass on any obstacle.

So whatís your excuse again?
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I think the biggest problem is going to be rearranging your gear so that nothing hangs up on the top edge as your are transitioning to the other side. Especially if you are carrying some weight or plates.
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Old January 10, 2019, 06:48   #109
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Iím betting if a person with no arms is runniní and gunniní at Rockcastle that there would be zero chance that competitor would accept a pass on any obstacle.

So whatís your excuse again?
Yep.
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Width of wall?

Edges/supports OK or off limits?

Trying to think of where I can practice this without being arrested.
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Width of wall?

Edges/supports OK or off limits?

Trying to think of where I can practice this without being arrested.
8' wide. Using supports is cheating and you will be firmly chastised.
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8' wide. Using supports is cheating and you will be firmly chastised.
Sorry, width of top board (thickness, not length), not width of wall.

Can competitors help each other?
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Sorry, width of top board (thickness, not length), not width of wall.

Can competitors help each other?
1.5" thick. Competitors can only help verbally and with kind wishes. No physical help is allowed.

Just like everywhere else on the course. ;-)
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1.5" thick. Competitors can only help verbally and with kind wishes. No physical help is allowed.

Just like everywhere else on the course. ;-)
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Is there a slack-line this year?
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Is there a slack-line this year?
On the 10k only. Wall is for everybody.
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(adds length of rope to kit)

IIRC, failure point of an unlatched D-ring is about 50% of rated.



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Heck, stimpy make your own. L shaped piece if flat iron with hole for 'biner in the top of the long leg and a serif on the bottom short leg. Short piece of rope or strap of appropriate size (think swiss seat length) with loops or knots at appropriate step length. Since the wall is 6 feet tall, you just have to reach up, place the L hook over the top edge, step into the loops and climb on over. Obviously slower than a vault, but most vaulters don't have 25-30 pounds of gear on your back. Added plus would be to attach gear, harness and weapon, to strap or rope and when you reach the top, haul up the gear then let it down to the other side, safe and sound.

Edited to addIf you are creative enough (hint, hint), you could fabricate a folding hook so it lays flat in your kit (spare pistol mag pouch).
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Heck, stimpy make your own. L shaped piece if flat iron with hole for 'biner in the top of the long leg and a serif on the bottom short leg. Short piece of rope or strap of appropriate size (think swiss seat length) with loops or knots at appropriate step length. Since the wall is 6 feet tall, you just have to reach up, place the L hook over the top edge, step into the loops and climb on over. Obviously slower than a vault, but most vaulters don't have 25-30 pounds of gear on your back. Added plus would be to attach gear, harness and weapon, to strap or rope and when you reach the top, haul up the gear then let it down to the other side, safe and sound.

Edited to addIf you are creative enough (hint, hint), you could fabricate a folding hook so it lays flat in your kit (spare pistol mag pouch).
But I already have the biner for the slack-line.
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But I already have the biner for the slack-line.

Yes, but with the 'biner, you may incur spreading of the long sides and possibly bending of the open gate due to the lateral leverage forces caused by the wall and downward force of your weight. Carabiners are designed for longitudinal stresses not lateral stresses. The hook I proposed would negate the lateral stresses. It was based on this firefighter piece of self rescue gear. This one is anodized aluminum and weighs in about 8 ounces.

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Yes, but with the 'biner, you may incur spreading of the long sides and possibly bending of the open gate due to the lateral leverage forces caused by the wall and downward force of your weight. Carabiners are designed for longitudinal stresses not lateral stresses. The hook I proposed would negate the lateral stresses. It was based on this firefighter piece of self rescue gear. This one is anodized aluminum and weighs in about 8 ounces.

And you can wear it as a codpiece when not using it!
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K, trying very hard to stay on topic. If it drifts you take all the blame.
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Tactical Tailor committed to send $500 worth of gear to be an obstacle sponsor - but then actually sent me almost $1,300 worth of gear. So I'm bumping them up to a full Stage Sponsor, of course! They sent 3 each of their covert rifle cases, shooters mats, and gym bags - and they look to be super high quality! Be sure to thank them and don't forget to look to them if you need any great RNG gear.

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Reminder: you will need a light of some kind to navigate and shoot in the cave (Stage 3). If you show up without a light you will not be allowed to shoot and will be given a zero for the stage. Weaponlights are fine to shoot with, but you'll also need a separate light to navigate parts of the cave before the shooting starts. I don't care if you carry a giant spotlight with a 12V truck battery, but you must carry it for the entire course!

If you've never been to the cave before, here's a preview video from 2017 (the names are different, but the basics are the same this year) that will give you a better idea what to expect:

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I'm having a "Run N Gun Work Day" at Rockcastle on Sunday, February 10th. All are welcome to lend a hand and help, and in return you'll get to see and practice on these things. I'll even have a small kayak on-hand to be sure the shooting lanes work for the boat stage. If there's time you can even run the (unmarked) course if you'd like for practice.

You'll be digging post-holes to make a more sturdy barbed wire crawl at Doe Valley and a stepped balance beam at the Cave, assembling and setting the wall at the powerline cut, and clearing around the pond and testing for the boat stage. And depending on storm damage, possibly clearing some trees from the trail if needed. Or deciding to leave them as natural obstacles. :-)

You can come for an hour or all day - anything will be appreciated! Just let me know so I'm not out in the woods for hours while you're waiting at the Lodge and looking for me.

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The Wall is built. I don't understand why Trump is having such a hard time with this - it only took me a couple hours. You think I can get some of that $20 million gofundme money???

Here's a few ways you might use to get over. Get creative, and you can totally do this!

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I've had a couple questions about scoring and rules. When in doubt, read the "Rules & Procedures" PDF available for download on the Practiscore Match Page. But here are the three big ones:

1. Your rifle must be UNLOADED when not actively shooting. If you are found with a round in your chamber or a magazine inserted in your rifle while running, you will be DQ'd and not allowed to finish the course. Bolts can remain closed to keep the dirt out, but you can NOT have a magazine inserted (even an empty magazine).

2. You CAN carry a loaded pistol in a secure holster, but if at any point in the course that loaded pistol comes out of the holster and hits the ground, you are DQ'd and cannot finish the course. This happens to some poor soul at almost every match, so be sure your holster is secure before you load up and go. If you carry your pistol unloaded and it falls - we'll just laugh at you and tell you to pick it up. YOU weigh the risks and rewards, and make your own decision on how to carry your pistol. You will NOT be given time to "load and make ready" before starting a shooting stage - you'll have to do that after the buzzer goes off. "Loaded" for the sake of this match means anything in the pistol - even a loaded magazine with an empty chamber.

3. Half of your score will be based on your net run time (overall run time minus any wait time you have), and half will be based on your shooting scores from all stages combined. So you must BOTH run fast and shoot well to score well.

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You guys can thank Bryan Ray for this: We're adding a rope climb as a "bonus" obstacle. Finish your race, take off your gear, and head over to the rope IF YOU SO CHOOSE. If you can climb the rope and ring the bell, we'll knock 10 minutes off your run time. This will be a 1.75" diameter poly rope 12' - 15' high.
Climbing a rope is an important real-world skill, and I want to reward those who can do it!

Speaking of obstacles - I also want to give a great big THANK YOU to Bryan Ray and his son Thomas, Ben Wolf, Ashley Edgcombe, Matt Webb, and my dear wife Lisa for spending a cold rainy Sunday with me building obstacles. The wall, the barbed wire crawl, and the balance beam are all on-site and available for training if you want to head up there - just check in with the Lodge first before wandering the property.

I'm really happy with how the balance beam turned out. What started as a lame obstacle because I couldn't think of anything else that fit the geography there turned into something that I think is going to be really challenging for people. We'll see!

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Where can you buy rope that diameter?
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You can braid climbing ropes together to make a larger diameter section.

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On Craigslist in Vancouver, WA - but you have to buy a laundry bag from Target to get it home as checked baggage. I can only imagine what the TSA guy thought when it went through. ;-)

I'm way too cheap to pay what they want on the internet for new big rope. But if you can climb a skinnier rope (what I did for years), a big rope is easy!
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https://www.instructables.com/id/Braided-climbing-rope/
This is good stuff. I've made "cordage" from twisting several small ropes together too.

I kept trying to follow around Nightstalkers hoping they'd drop a fast rope, but that didn't work out too well.
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Check out the local marine stores for mooring lines. West Marine has ropes up to 1Ĺ inch diameter lines. Pretty sure if they'll hold a boat to the dock, they'll support the weight of a normal sized person.

Or try Google for 1Ĺ inch climbing rope. Here are two I found on line:

https://www.fitnessedgeonline.com/Pr...SABEgITePD_BwE

https://www.roguefitness.com/climbin...CABEgL2HPD_BwE

Both of these have braided loops on one end to use as an attachment point. Picture is of one but both look alike.

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Can we use any gear we carried on the run on the vertical rope?
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Can we use any gear we carried on the run on the vertical rope?
Umm - like what? I originally said "drop your gear and climb the rope", so I'm leaning towards no. Change my mind though - I'm clearly making this up as I go along.
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Sorry, man - couldn't resist . . .

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Umm - like what? I originally said "drop your gear and climb the rope", so I'm leaning towards no. Change my mind though - I'm clearly making this up as I go along.
The biner and length of rope some of us carry for the slackline.

But yeah, mostly what Steve is accusing me of.

I bought a rope to practice, so I am OK with no. Was just thinking/scheming out loud.
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The biner and length of rope some of us carry for the slackline.

But yeah, mostly what Steve is accusing me of.

I bought a rope to practice, so I am OK with no. Was just thinking/scheming out loud.
I know you're not the only one thinking like this. I was just having a tough time figuring out what kind of gadget could help you up a rope.

I'm tempted to let people use a gadget they carried just to see what happens. With the caveat that if they ise a gadget from their gear, they have to carry all their gear up the rope too.

But I think to keep it simple this first year I'll just say "no". Climb the rope with no gear - just you and the rope.
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Used similar back when I was young dumb, and a lot smaller and lighter. Used to do a lot of rappelling back then. Just didn't know the name of the knot.
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Knock yourself-out!

Hint: it ain't no fun on a slack-line, get a buddy to pull the rope taught from below like a belay-man.

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Hint: it ain't no fun on a slack-line, get a buddy to pull the rope taught from below like a belay-man.

True...and probably means it wouldn't work here anyway.
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My rope is here, but the only place I can attach it is in the garage.

Stomped all around my property twice trying to figure out a way to mount it higher.



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With all the trees you have there???
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