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Old October 17, 2018, 21:21   #1
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Best FAL scope mount

Looking for the best heavy duty FAL scope mount, what say you ?
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Old October 17, 2018, 21:38   #2
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Looking for the best heavy duty FAL scope mount, what say you ?
Chances are most will chime in with saying the DSA mount is the best. They are probably correct. I never liked mine as it was in contrast to the fine lines of the receiver (i.e., bulky) and it marred the receiver when clamped down. But I think those that champion the DSA make a very good case for it.

Others like the ARMS mounts, of which I have no experience. My favorite is the QD Pro, which is no longer manufactured and which doesn't fit all receivers well. The Grenadier mount, though no longer made, has its share of fans.

Again, to sum it up, the DSA mount generally gets more endorsements than any others, and probably for good reason.
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Old October 17, 2018, 23:48   #3
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DSA mount

DSA mount works good on my rifle - running a 4x12 scope with steel 30mm rings . Recommend using high grade button head screws instead of the cheap slotted ones it sold with. Got some new industrial grade screws 3/8 in. long and filed to length needed for full thread engagement of plates. Also had to file the inside rear of the DSA mount where it was too small - scratched my receiver's finish. Check your new mount internal width compared to your upper dimension. Uneven machine work from DSA.
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Old October 18, 2018, 00:03   #4
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Regrettably I have to say that the DSA mount is the best "Currently" offered....
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Old October 18, 2018, 02:23   #5
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I still have a couple nice GP covers, just need a lil bit o' tlc on the receiver rail areas

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432593
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Old October 18, 2018, 07:18   #6
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I still have a couple nice GP covers, just need a lil bit o' tlc on the receiver rail areas

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432593
These are the way to go !!!

As I have mentioned before, since these are aluminum ( but very hard aluminum ) I decided on my own to limit them to relatively light optics, which is all I personally think are needed on a FAL ( with apologies to Mondog ). Purely an individual decision though. In any event, I have been 100% pleased with these mounts after many years. They are about as light as you can get, hold zero, and are easy to install with no worry about screws or plates working loose.

All of the above being said, the DSA is rock solid when properly installed, screw upgrade as Mondog suggests is advisable. They are heavy, kinda clunky looking and WILL mar the receiver sides as built, though.

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Old October 18, 2018, 07:52   #7
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I don't have it anymore, but I did have one of the ARMS mounts a few years back. I liked it more than the DSA mount. There was enough friction when I slid it on the receiver that the thing never moved. Could be removed like a normal topcover to facilitate cleaning. While I never tested the return to zero, I don't ever recall noticing an issue with it. I also had the DSA mount and hated the stupid screws and the fact it could not be easily removed and reinstalled. Don't have experience with any other models.
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No experience with the DSA product but I've had no problems with my ARMS mount so far.
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Old October 18, 2018, 19:23   #9
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Is the ARMS mount still in production ?
I have a SAR 48 in need of a good scope mount.
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Old October 18, 2018, 19:38   #10
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Is the ARMS mount still in production ?
I have a SAR 48 in need of a good scope mount.
That's the one I've used forever and Yes.
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Is the ARMS mount still in production ?
I have a SAR 48 in need of a good scope mount.
Certainly they are in production. Look at an ARMS #3. They are about $120 or so new. They wear out so keep a spare. You’ll be whining more about the FAL beating your scope with brass than the integrity of the mount.
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Certainly they are in production. Look at an ARMS #3. They are about $120 or so new. They wear out so keep a spare.


Okay, I'm confused.

Is this meant as sarcasm??
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I don't have it anymore, but I did have one of the ARMS mounts a few years back. I liked it more than the DSA mount. There was enough friction when I slid it on the receiver that the thing never moved. Could be removed like a normal topcover to facilitate cleaning. While I never tested the return to zero, I don't ever recall noticing an issue with it. I also had the DSA mount and hated the stupid screws and the fact it could not be easily removed and reinstalled. Don't have experience with any other models.

Why are you removing the mount for cleaning ? You're just adding wear on the mating surfaces. The mount stays in place pretty much permanently.
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Because I wanted too and because it allowed easier access to the inside receiver. Also, if you look at the mount, there is a piece on the rear of it that prohibits the bolt and carrier to be removed while mounted. Wear to the mating surfaces? I'm not an engineer but sure, maybe. If you're considering the ARMS mount, I wouldn't worry. Unless you want to sit in your recliner and slide the mount on an off 8 thousand times while watching TV.
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Because I wanted too and because it allowed easier access to the inside receiver. Also, if you look at the mount, there is a piece on the rear of it that prohibits the bolt and carrier to be removed while mounted. Wear to the mating surfaces? I'm not an engineer but sure, maybe. If you're considering the ARMS mount, I wouldn't worry. Unless you want to sit in your recliner and slide the mount on an off 8 thousand times while watching TV.
Thats for the spring guide on a para. On a regular rifle you can just score the edge of it with a Dremel and snap it out so you can remove the bolt withoout disassembling the mount from the receiver.
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I guess you learn something new every day, thanks! I don't go anywhere near my rifles with a dremel as bad things have been known to happen. Still, in the years I had that mount, I never had a problem with it, even when removed and reinstalled multiple times.
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Old October 19, 2018, 09:56   #18
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DSA seems to be the most rock solid mount. However, the screws, as previously stated, are too short and are of poor quality. Replace them and you are good to go. Looks kinda blocky atop the FAL receiver too.

The ARMS mount uses spring steel tension for fitment. And while not as solid as DSA, it is perfectly adequate for mounting optics. We ain't talking "bench rest" repeatability here.

Actually, I prefer the ARMS mount over the DSA because of it's simplicity in design and the way it flows with the lines of the receiver. Works well without marring the rifle like the DSA can. Considering a suitable optic for the accuracy potential of the FAL it fills the bill. For those sub MOA rifles out there with the high magnification scopes, the DSA would be a better choice.
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I have NOS Springfield Armory scope mount. Still in the wrapper. Not sure how good they are. I dont think they still make them.
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Every rifle I've seen that had a DSA on it for some time, had the receiver's finish marred. The ARMS need some work on the ejection port to minimize dents in the brass. Also the front edge gets an imprint from the top of the receiver behind the carry handle. They can be tightened easily by tweaking the rails out slightly. That said and done, the ARMS is the best choice. With a compact 4X scope, things are well matched. 4X optics are all the power any military used. These are not sniper rifles. They're not light weight either.
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Every rifle I've seen that had a DSA on it for some time, had the receiver's finish marred. The ARMS need some work on the ejection port to minimize dents in the brass. Also the front edge gets an imprint from the top of the receiver behind the carry handle. They can be tightened easily by tweaking the rails out slightly. That said and done, the ARMS is the best choice. With a compact 4X scope, things are well matched. 4X optics are all the power any military used. These are not sniper rifles. They're not light weight either.
I am in complete agreement. I have had an arms on my SAR48 standard for over 20 years. I have never noticed a shift in zero and I do remove the mount; not very often but on occasion. I also have an ARMS mount for my Para FAL; same deal. I also use low, fixed power scopes; currently a 3.6x Elcan and a 4x Hensoldt. ARMS is the way to go for a FAL. I just don't think you are gaining much by clamping down a mount to a FAL. With a good quality mount like the ARMS I just don't think you are ever going to see enough shift in zero to even show up.

If the FAL was a sub MOA gun then yes I would say the ARMS is a bad idea. But the typical FAL is a 2-4 MOA gun. So maybe the mount makes it a 2.5-4.5 MOA gun. So unless you are shooting out past 300 yards, so what? I've killed deer out to 400 yards with my FAL/ARMS/4x Hensoldt combination.
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