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Old February 21, 2012, 20:14   #1
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Good Entry Level MG?

I'm thinking about getting into the full auto scene this year and need some help deciding on a good entry level MG. I'm willing to spend up to $8k. What are my options?
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Old February 21, 2012, 21:03   #2
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That price range limits you somewhat, but there are some decent choices.

At the upper end of that range, a lot of folks seem to like standard Uzis. (Here's one with suppressor: http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nf...gi?read=146224)

Personally, I think the M2 Carbine is a great bargain and would leave you plenty of cash for ammo. (But then, I love the M1 Carbine, too, so the M2 is a natural extension.)

Just for bullet-spraying, you could consider a Sten. Maybe a Sterling Mk 4? You could pick any variation of MAC, too, but I'm not really a fan.

I also like the Reising M50. They weren't a great military weapon, but if you're not planning on dragging it through jungles, it's a pretty cool .45 (and a lot cheaper than the Thompson).

Whatever you select, congrats in advance, and have fun with it!
But definitely be prepared for the expenses. First, they burn ammo FAST. And second, very few people stop after one!

Keep us posted on what you pursue!
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Old February 21, 2012, 21:43   #3
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Consider the Uzi. They're reasonably available, priced ok and there are lots of parts out there for them. Best of all,if you the shoot the barrel out at some point,it just screws out for easy replacement.
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Old February 21, 2012, 22:43   #4
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FN FNC Para.

No question.
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Old May 31, 2012, 11:53   #5
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FN FNC Para.

No question.
THIS. I'm going to probably pick one up in the next 6 months or so.

Shoulda never sold my Semi FNC Para 10 years ago...
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Old November 12, 2012, 14:00   #6
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UPDATE: I took the plunge a few days ago. In the end I decided on a Sten Mk. II SMG.

Paying for the damn thing was the easy part.
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FN FNC Para.

No question.
+100 only drawback is spare parts but it is what I would get and Hope to get some day. 5.56, takes ar mags, more hefty than an ar, made by FN
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Old February 22, 2012, 18:40   #8
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Consider the Uzi. They're reasonably available, priced ok and there are lots of parts out there for them. Best of all,if you the shoot the barrel out at some point,it just screws out for easy replacement.
Yep, what he said. Plus you can get conversion kits to shoot .22lr, .45 ACP, and .40 S&W.
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Old February 22, 2012, 18:47   #9
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Old February 22, 2012, 18:58   #10
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Thanks for the feedback, guys.

I'm leaning toward the M2 Carbine.
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Old February 21, 2012, 22:49   #11
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AC-556

The only excuse for owning a Mini-14.
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Old February 22, 2012, 02:23   #12
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Sten, Sterling, Madsen, Mac, Reising, M2 Carbine, Maybe Swedish K, Port Said, S&W 76, Hmmm.....not many left in that price range.

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Old February 22, 2012, 07:17   #13
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The Mac with a Lage upper and a good stock is a fun subgun.
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Old February 22, 2012, 10:52   #14
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The Mac with a Lage upper and a good stock is a fun subgun.
+1

The M11/9 is a versatile little gun. There's lots of good aftermarket stuff available especially from Richard Lage. I can shoot 9mm, .22lr & 7.62x25 out of my m11.
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With a max of $8K, I'd also suggest the M11/9.

While there are certainly better guns available at that price, there are none that are as versatile. An M11/9 with a Lage upper and decent stock will only use half your funds. You can get a .22 kit, drum conversion, and many other accessories to make it whatever you want. They have also been converted to 7.62x25, 9mm Makarov, .380, and couple of other calibers.

My second choice would be the Uzi as it also has a couple of caliber choices and is very reliable and easy to shoot well in stock form.

Probably the best SMG you could afford would be a Sterling. That and the Swedish K are probably the two best SMGs ever built. but what you see is what you get. There are no caliber conversions or other things to buy aside from ammo and magazines.
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The only excuse for owning a Mini-14.
Then you have to find three friends with them, and a black van.

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Then you have to find three friends with them, and a black van.
That made me laugh out loud.
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AC-556

The only excuse for owning a Mini-14.

AGREED!!!
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AC-556

The only excuse for owning a Mini-14.
Nah, even a happy switch can't save that gun.
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Old February 27, 2012, 11:24   #20
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Nah, even a happy switch can't save that gun.
Correct! Buy a FNC instead.
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Forgot, maybe a 10-22 converted. They are cheap and run great with plenty of aftermarket stuff for them.

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I have an Uzi and a MK760. I prefer the Uzi because the .22 conversion I have with it allows me to shoot it three times as much as I would with just 9mm. It is a fun plinker in either caliber.
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I'm thinking about getting into the full auto scene this year and need some help deciding on a good entry level MG. I'm willing to spend up to $8k. What are my options?
You really should get this one.
It's a steal IMO & in your price range.
Use the "Buy it now".
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AC-556

The only excuse for owning a Mini-14.
I have to agree.
I bought a few AC 556's in 1995 for $1200. & turned them for $3000.
Wish I kept one.
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You really should get this one.
It's a steal IMO & in your price range.
Use the "Buy it now".
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I don't know,.................it's nice with the box and all, but $8500 for an AC556? Man that seems steep for what it is. And it's on a form4 now, so it's a two tax gun. With shipping, even if you've got a receiving dealer who will catch it for you for free,..............you'll have $9000 in it by the time it filters down to you. I couldn't do it. No way.
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I don't know,.................it's nice with the box and all, but $8500 for an AC556? Man that seems steep for what it is.
He can always watch the auction & see what happens.
The standard full length model sells for $6800.-$7500. depending on condition, blued or stainless & no original box or anything else included.
Go to subguns.com & see what they sell for there. The prices above are the norm.


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And it's on a form4 now, so it's a two tax gun. With shipping, even if you've got a receiving dealer who will catch it for you for free,..............you'll have $9000 in it by the time it filters down to you. I couldn't do it. No way.
Per the auction.
"It will transfer to your class 3 dealer tax paid with a form 4 direct from our customer."
He'll only pay 1 transfer & the short folders are the rarest of the AC 556.




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Old March 09, 2012, 21:03   #26
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Per the auction.
"It will transfer to your class 3 dealer tax paid with a form 4 direct from our customer."
He'll only pay 1 transfer & the short folders are the rarest of the AC 556.




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No, see, his 'customer' isn't an SOT, so it will transfer to a class 3 dealer tax paid with a form 4. Another tax paid form4 will be required to get it to the buyer(unless everybody resides in the same state where it could go directly from the non-SOT'customer' to the buyer).

I could be mis-reading it(because it's poorly written), but it doesn't sound like he's offering to cover the first taxed transfer.
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i SAY MP40 OR MG42......BUT THATS HOW I LIKE TO ROLL! CAN I AFFORD EITHER,NOT RIGHT NOW,DO I WANT THEM, HELL YEA!! THE MP40 HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST CONTROLLABLE ONES I EVER SHOT, JUST ROCKS BACK AND FORTH IN THE ARMS... NOT LIKE THE RABID 9MM COLTS OR THERS SPITTING 900 RPM.... 500-550 IS I THINK WHAT THE MP40 DOES..

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