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Old September 04, 2018, 18:44   #1
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Is this a Canadian C1 C1A1 bolt?

This is currently in canada but has no maple leaf proof. Is it Canadian? Why no maple leaf proof? What’s the B circle?

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Old September 04, 2018, 18:54   #2
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Appears to be Canadian. I have an unmarked (no maple leaf) NOS bolt carrier that is Canadian. I believe the maple leaves were put on after Parkerizing process, too.


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Old September 05, 2018, 21:49   #3
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Leland, I’ve never once seen a parked breech block in Canadian service.
Every single one was shiny steel. I don’t know if it was worn off or made that way, but I stand by what I say.

IN SERVICE rifles had bare metal breech blocks with maple leaves. The CARRIERS were parked.
I’m looking forward to be shown to be wrong.

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Old September 06, 2018, 15:36   #4
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I'm with you. I was referring to the breech block carrier (as I have one). Yeah, I've not seen a parked bolt, either.



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Old September 06, 2018, 16:55   #5
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Gotta' say that the machining sure looks on par with my examples.

I understand the etched Maple leaf is a proof mark, similar to the crossed flags on Aussie and Brit bolts (NIW DZ bolts lack crossed flags, but unserilized replacement examples in kits have the flags).
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Old September 06, 2018, 17:47   #6
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I'm with you. I was referring to the breech block carrier (as I have one). Yeah, I've not seen a parked bolt, either.



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Yup, my carriers are parked as well. And it's a kind of park that I've never seen replicated. It's shiny, almost like blueing.
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Old September 06, 2018, 19:58   #7
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What was used for BSA ? Yeah . . . . but its also an inch name
And wasn't there an OB something, somewhere in bygone history of C1A1 ?
Large circle with a B inside ?

just a idea . . . . don't know by a long shot.
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Old September 07, 2018, 16:17   #8
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Well, BSA stands for Birmingham Small Arms.



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Old September 08, 2018, 18:38   #9
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Well, BSA stands for Birmingham Small Arms.



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Yeah looks like a NOS unissued Canadian C1 C1A1 spares bolt. Guess it does t get any nicer than this.

Still wondering what the B in circle is.
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Old September 10, 2018, 21:35   #11
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Yeah looks like a NOS unissued Canadian C1 C1A1 spares bolt. Guess it does t get any nicer than this.

Still wondering what the B in circle is.
Likely the Long Branch arsenal marking?
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Old September 14, 2018, 00:13   #12
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Long Branch on other things was stamped LB, never shortened.
i would think if it was shortened they would take the L ?
but on nothing else was it shortened, always LB

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Old September 16, 2018, 15:33   #13
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Bolt

Buy it and don't look back.
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Old September 16, 2018, 15:35   #14
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Old September 17, 2018, 14:40   #15
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yeah, buy it ! and then your research will eventually reveal where it may have come from.

Circle C A inside Canadian Arsenal

Circle C B inside ?????

let us know !
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Old September 18, 2018, 18:41   #16
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Ok so I’ve been told the “3” on the bolt and firing pin extension denotes the upgrade to “purple” firing pin spring and 2 piece firing pin. I’ve been told the circle B is an inspection Mark. The bolt is a NOS Spare similar to the Aussie bolts that have no crossed flag proofs.
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Old September 21, 2018, 13:39   #17
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you better be writing all this in a note book. ya know
this riFAL has these, and they came from, which means . . . range time !

the circle C and B inside could also be as simple as yes its a spare, Canadian Bolt.
canada seemed to be into marking things.
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Old September 26, 2018, 09:22   #18
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Ok, this little honey going up for sale/auction soon
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I would like very much for you to allow me to purchase this bolt for a Canadian C1A1 build that I need to complete.
I have all NOS parts collected at this point, but the bolt I have is Aussie!(?)! This would be perfect!
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Old October 06, 2018, 14:24   #20
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I would like very much for you to allow me to purchase this bolt for a Canadian C1A1 build that I need to complete.
I have all NOS parts collected at this point, but the bolt I have is Aussie!(?)! This would be perfect!
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...60#post4642160
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This bolt is now for sale:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...60#post4642160
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Old October 06, 2018, 17:37   #22
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Ok so I’ve been told the “3” on the bolt and firing pin extension denotes the upgrade to “purple” firing pin spring and 2 piece firing pin. I’ve been told the circle B is an inspection Mark. The bolt is a NOS Spare similar to the Aussie bolts that have no crossed flag proofs.
That does seem odd. I have 2 and 3 I think marked extensions. I was trying to determine if they were for adjusting firing pin protrusion, but my tests were inconclusive. Seems odd to mark an interchangeable part with a notation that is not interchangeable.
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I have a pair of Canuk Bolts, both have a "3" stenciled on the bolt itself, along with P + maple leaf. The extension also has a "3" on it, and purple firing spring spring.

I "assume" that both bolts went through an upgrade at some point in service, and the "3" was a way on designating them as such.

Sean's bolt was likely a complete later replacement, already equipped with the "3" enhancements?

..... interesting details that someone looking to build a "correct" C1A1 might look for. A "3" marked bolt should have the purple firing pin spring and "3" marked extension?

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Good Day,

I found years ago a black Canadian C1A1/C2A1 bolt with Canadian proof mark and number "3". I remember in early 80' to see sometime a black Canadian C1A1/C2A1 bolt during the rifle range practices or field exercises in the Canadian Army (I joined the Canadian Army in 1981 and transfered in the Royal Canadian Air Force in 1990.



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http://www.falfiles.com/forums/attac...1&d=1538955416
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http://www.falfiles.com/forums/attac...1&d=1538955416
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Old December 14, 2018, 19:09   #25
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Hello,

Please find below pictures of my FN C1 bolt in black.









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