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Old August 12, 2004, 11:57   #101
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How to get your CC&R FFL License

I want to thank Jen for this thread. THANX!

It was full of info and I am sure that reading the instructions and printing the forms saved me some headaches.

So today on 8/12/04 all forms were filled out and mailed. 1 set of forms went to ATF&E, one set went certified mail to my local sheriffs' office.


I thought the forms were very easy to fill out but I was surprised that there was no place for a D/L#. I have to give a D/L when I do a transfer, so I thought there would be a place for a D/L on this form as well. Guess federal stuff does require it?


Now I get to wait. I sure hope I don't have to wait 4-5 Months! That will blow.
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Old September 03, 2004, 17:35   #102
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Old September 10, 2004, 12:53   #103
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C&R arrived today 9/10/2004, applied on March 17, 2004.
Was that 6 weeks or 6 months?........Ken
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Old September 13, 2004, 12:53   #104
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Can't find the right forms....links are inop. Can someone point me in the right direction? Have the forms changed? I can't find what is listed.
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Old September 13, 2004, 14:45   #105
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Opie,
Try the source...BATF.gov. I used the previously downloadable forms here and sent them to Dalles as instructed, turns out they needed to be sent to Atlanta. It'll probably add months (has been already) to the process if at all. Oh ya, they sure cashed the check quick!
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Old September 14, 2004, 12:41   #106
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What form numbers are the ones that are required? I couldn't find the C&R application form.
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Old September 14, 2004, 13:14   #107
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ATF took the main application form down. The compliance form is still available for download on their website. For the main application form, go to www.cruffler.com and download the form there. Or you could ask the ATF to mail the forms to you, but it will delay you until the forms arrive.
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Old October 17, 2004, 23:17   #108
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What age do you need to be to get a C&R(18/21)?
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Old October 21, 2004, 08:06   #109
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Found some more important to us ATF forms:

ATF Form 5300.38 (Change of Address)
http://www.usa-federal-forms.com/usf...DOT-38.pdf.zip

and here is a link to ALL ATF forms:
http://www.usa-federal-forms.com/fbf-by-folder/184.html

If anyone knows in Change of Address form #'s 6, 8, 10 are for the old address? It says for "Current", but then #'s 7, 9, 11 ask for New address.

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Old October 21, 2004, 14:24   #110
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Yes, you must be 21, see also FAQ's.
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Old January 29, 2005, 07:28   #111
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C&R

Ok, newbie here. Just got my packet yesterday from the BATF for my C&R apps. Filled it out as it seemed pretty straight forward and will mail it today
1-29-05.
I appreciate all the info on this site. Great bunch of people.
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Old February 11, 2005, 18:01   #112
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Re: How to get your CC&R FFL License

Is the ATF form---

F 7CR (5310.16) - Application for License (Collector of Curios and Relics) Under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, Firearms----

used for renewal? I do not see any spot on it to write the applicant's old C&R FFL number.
Also, how soon prior to expiration should the renewal application be mailed in?

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Update:
OK, I just read on another site that a separate renewal application form is sent by ATF several weeks before expiration and there is an "Acquisition and Disposition" section on the renewal form. I certainly don't want to give ATF and local government a list of my firearms. Is there really a requirement to do this? and is it law?

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Old March 18, 2005, 18:20   #113
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Hey Guys,

I just got my C&R renewal form. Do you guys know if the "Renewal Application Questionnaire" needs to be filled out or is it voluntary? As a C&R license holder, in question 7a and 7b, I need to state how many firearms I have logged into my books and how many have been disposed of.

Also, how do I find out who my CLEO is??
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Old March 18, 2005, 19:15   #114
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Hey Guys,

I just got my C&R renewal form. Do you guys know if the "Renewal Application Questionnaire" needs to be filled out or is it voluntary? As a C&R license holder, in question 7a and 7b, I need to state how many firearms I have logged into my books and how many have been disposed of.

Also, how do I find out who my CLEO is??
I at first was under the impression that Type-03 C&R renewals could write "n/a" in blank 7.a. & 7.b., but after reading the application which I too have now received, I see that it clearly states that:
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"If you are a firearms dealer, pawnbroker, manufacturer, importer, or collector of curios or relics"
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to answer the questions.

So yes, you need to fill in the number of acquired and disposed firearms over the last 3 years you've held your license.

Your CLEO is the Chief of Police if you live in a city or municipality
or the Sheriff of your county if you live outside a city or municipality.

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Old April 04, 2005, 14:16   #115
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C and R question

I am in the process of filling out my green ATF form for the C&R license and on the bottom it asks for my "position and social security number" what is my position ? i am not going into business here, its just me and i dont plan on buying loads of guns to sell. thanks for you help! Greg
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Re: C and R question

Provided you checked the "An Individual" box in question# 6 you put ONLY your SS#.

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PS-I'm looking at a 3 year old form I filled out for my original FFL. I assume the questions are the same albeit possibly numbered different.
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Old April 06, 2005, 16:51   #117
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Need help................how and where do I go to tell them I have moved to a new house? What form do I need to fill out?
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Need help................how and where do I go to tell them I have moved to a new house? What form do I need to fill out?
You need to file an application for an amended license, ATF Form 5300.38
http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f530038.pdf
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Old May 02, 2005, 14:21   #119
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With the amended form do i send in another 31.00? or just the form.
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Old May 04, 2005, 10:15   #120
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All forms requests are now online - don't call the atlanta office, go here and order them.

http://www.atf.gov/dcof/index.htm
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Old May 15, 2005, 08:08   #121
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DABTL said on 7/15/06, "I rather think it is a good idea to shut down those machine gun kits such as the MG42 from coming into this country. I cannot imagine a good use to which they might be put. I can think of many ways they could be a problem"
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Old March 17, 2006, 20:36   #122
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Is there a minimum age for this license? I'm guessing 21 but I couldn't find the info anywhere. Thanks!
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Old March 18, 2006, 13:39   #123
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WOW!!
Sure wish it hadn't taken me so long to happen upon this thread!

THANK YOU JEN!!!

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Old March 18, 2006, 19:14   #124
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Just got mine in the mail today, took almost three months.
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Old April 08, 2006, 19:24   #125
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I just got my application form(green) in the mail today! I requested both forms on the website, but was only sent one. I did notice however that section 10 is "nonimmigrant alien certification of compliance with 18 U.S.C 922 (g)(5)(b)".

Does that mean that there is only one form now, or did I not get the other? Thanks,
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Old April 09, 2006, 05:37   #126
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Old April 21, 2006, 10:17   #127
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Hey, this was a snap, guys. If you've been putting off doing it. don't.

I snail mailed my check and forms to Atlanta 3/27. Yesterday, 4/20,
that snail brought me my liscense. As easy as that.

Haven't received my info packet though.

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Old May 18, 2006, 13:54   #128
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Just want to report:

Mailed C&R app 3/31/06, received C&R in the mail today, 5/18/06. Pretty good turn-around time, I wasn't really expecting it for another month or so. However, they screwed up my address even tho it is very clearly written on the app in two places. Way to go BATFE
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Old July 03, 2006, 23:12   #129
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Hey, this was a snap, guys. If you've been putting off doing it. don't.

I snail mailed my check and forms to Atlanta 3/27. Yesterday, 4/20,
that snail brought me my liscense. As easy as that.

Haven't received my info packet though.

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Did you send a money order or a personal check? I can't tell from the form whether they require a money order. The green form I have does have a place to put a credit card, but I don't know if I want to give them my credit card number, not that they couldn't find it if they wanted it.
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Old July 28, 2006, 00:55   #130
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Requested forms over phone, received 5 days later. Submitted complete forms on March 15,2001, received C&R March 27,2001.
I just had about the same good service from our buddies at ATF. Sent in my forms on July 10, 2006, I had my license in hand on July 24. That was much faster than I expected.

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Sent in forms on oct. 12th and had the license today oct. 25th just 13 days later.
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I just had about the same good service from our buddies at ATF. Sent in my forms on July 10, 2006, I had my license in hand on July 24. That was much faster than I expected.

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Jeesh. Am I the only one that got lost in some BATF In-Box? I sent mine in on July 13th, 2006. Received it October 8th, 2006. I probably wouldn't have received it then, except I called and complained and asked them to explain why it was taking so long. I had it within 3 days after that call.
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Old November 22, 2006, 23:14   #133
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Jen is there a copy of boundbook1.xls anywhere around I ruined my copy?
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Old December 02, 2006, 07:32   #134
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Beginning C&R gunsmith?

Any additional suggestions for a beginning gunsmith students? My plan, subject to facts and law, is to get C&R firearms and use them as class projects. If they're successfully done I'd probably need to sell them to fund the next class project. However, I don't expect the income to be anything more than a viscious cycle that let's me build better projects.

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Importing firearms

Can I import firearms from a foreign country on a C&R license or does it require a FFL 1?
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Old January 06, 2007, 08:39   #136
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I ordered my forms, should be at the house when I return. I will let you know how much turn around time I have.
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They only sent one of the 2 forms, just reordered the other. More waiting
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No sir its not an importers license. It (03type) only allows you to buy directly from vendors certain qualifying firearms for the purposes of building a personal collection.
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I'm in the process of re-applying for my C&R.

I got two forms. One is green and 4 pages. The other is white, and in landscape format (as opposed to portrait).

The white one is "Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B).

Part 1 lists "Name under which the application was filed". Fine, no problem there.

But, part 2 lists "Name of person CERTIFYING to citizenship:" - and here is where I'm confused. I'm a natural born citizen of the USA. Do I put my own info here again? Or what?

On the green form, section 10 "Nonimmigrant Alien Certification of Compliance With 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)" - do I fill this part out? I'm not a non-immigrant...I'm a natural born citizen.

If so, what do I put for part A "Name of Person Certifying Compliance"? Myself?

Sorry for the questions...these forms are confusing...
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I just ordered my paperwork from the ATF website for my C&R. HOPEfully that won't take too long since I want to hurry up and get this process started.

MY list to buy is at least one of each of these:

M1 Garand
Mauser (98k maybe)
Mosin Nagant M44
Enfield
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Thanks for the info Jen!
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I'm in the process of re-applying for my C&R.

I got two forms. One is green and 4 pages. The other is white, and in landscape format (as opposed to portrait).

The white one is "Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B).

Part 1 lists "Name under which the application was filed". Fine, no problem there.

But, part 2 lists "Name of person CERTIFYING to citizenship:" - and here is where I'm confused. I'm a natural born citizen of the USA. Do I put my own info here again? Or what?

On the green form, section 10 "Nonimmigrant Alien Certification of Compliance With 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)" - do I fill this part out? I'm not a non-immigrant...I'm a natural born citizen.

If so, what do I put for part A "Name of Person Certifying Compliance"? Myself?

Sorry for the questions...these forms are confusing...

Just got my packet and was wondering this myself

TIA

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I'm in the process of re-applying for my C&R.

I got two forms. One is green and 4 pages. The other is white, and in landscape format (as opposed to portrait).

The white one is "Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B).

Part 1 lists "Name under which the application was filed". Fine, no problem there.

But, part 2 lists "Name of person CERTIFYING to citizenship:" - and here is where I'm confused. I'm a natural born citizen of the USA. Do I put my own info here again? Or what?

On the green form, section 10 "Nonimmigrant Alien Certification of Compliance With 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)" - do I fill this part out? I'm not a non-immigrant...I'm a natural born citizen.

If so, what do I put for part A "Name of Person Certifying Compliance"? Myself?

Sorry for the questions...these forms are confusing...
Yes, you put yourself there.

Question #10 is broken up into 3 parts or subsections. A, B and C. You put your name on section A as the one certifying your citizenship. THen you leave B and C blank. This is of course only if your a natural born citizen.

This is how it was explained to me.
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Nighthawk, thanks for clearing that up...paperwork outbound

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No problem!

It took just over a month to get my license in hand. BATFE issued it 29 days after it was sent. But it took a little better than a week to get it after they said it had been issued.
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Permit? Hunting license?

What is THAT about, can anyone clue me in?

Outside of Michigan Handgun purchase permits, I haven't had a hunting license since 1977.

How do I answer THIS?

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My C&R is due for renewal - how do I renew - is there a form?
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they will send you a form, fill it out, send it back with the renewal payment.
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I called and they are going to fax it, but have not - yet.
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Old January 29, 2017, 08:31   #149
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if anyone is looking at this post..... all links are DEAD
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Old February 01, 2017, 12:10   #150
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Have you no decency man? Let the dead rest in peace!! It's post necrophilia I'm telling you. Step away from the corpse...please use Google.
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