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Old February 15, 2018, 13:25   #1
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Ammo Head Stamp Question

I picked up several box's of .308 at auction. The only marking on the faded looking greenish box is 308 Winchester. Cartridge head stamp at the 12 o'clock position it says 308W, at 3 and 9 o'clock there are zeros and at 6 o'clock is the number 83. Brass case, copper clad bullet that is magnetic.
Any thoughts on the manufacturer of this round?
I did a quick look at head stamp info and did not find 83 in the mix.
I'm guessing it is former Com Bloc or Chinese. I know pics would be helpful but.....

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Old February 15, 2018, 13:36   #2
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Most likely Czechoslovakia / S&B.






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Old February 15, 2018, 15:40   #3
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Yep, Czech. Berdan CORROSIVE primed.
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Old February 15, 2018, 15:42   #4
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Yep, Czech. Berdan CORROSIVE primed.
And hard as hell to light off
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Old February 15, 2018, 15:56   #5
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That's the stuff. So other than the above mentioned negatives any thing else I need to look for? OK to launch out of an FAL, proper cleaning after shooting of course.

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Old February 15, 2018, 16:15   #6
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That's the stuff. So other than the above mentioned negatives any thing else I need to look for? OK to launch out of an FAL, proper cleaning after shooting of course.
No problem with that...

If you can get the FAL to light it off, of course, but I'm sure that goes without saying.

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Old February 15, 2018, 17:48   #7
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Made for the Uk59 GP MG. Open bolt with a fixed firing pin.
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Made for the Uk59 GP MG. Open bolt with a fixed firing pin.
Export version?
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Old February 15, 2018, 18:25   #9
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I bought a case a few years back and the FAL just couldn’t light it off reliably. Took it back to the guy at the gun show, which was probably a good thing cause I didn’t know it was corrosive back then
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Old February 15, 2018, 20:02   #10
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Thanks for all the info. Iíll see if I can get it to touch off. I have an old Spanish Mauser converted to .308 I can see if it works in that. Sounds like itís just blasting ammo.
If not Iíll save it for the next crisis and throw it on the Market Place.
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Export version?
Just surplus
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Old February 16, 2018, 00:18   #12
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Just surplus
I meant export version of the UK59...in caliber 7.62x51/.308 Win

This ammo was made before the Czechs were a NATO thing
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Old February 16, 2018, 12:37   #13
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I meant export version of the UK59...in caliber 7.62x51/.308 Win

This ammo was made before the Czechs were a NATO thing
I still don't understand why it was marked with the commercial SAMMI designation of 308WIN vs the standard military headstamp of nothing or 7.62.
If it was intended for export they would have undoubtly made it cosmetically more expectable and NON corrosive. Strange piece of ammo history regardless.
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I still don't understand why it was marked with the commercial SAMMI designation of 308WIN vs the standard military headstamp of nothing or 7.62.
If it was intended for export they would have undoubtly made it cosmetically more expectable and NON corrosive. Strange piece of ammo history regardless.
All in the details of the contract... Could have gone to Lybia or some other African nation as a "commercial" (not military) sale for some clandestine reason. Marked with "308" to make it look good. The non Russian ComBloc countries sent a LOT of ammo into communist factions in Africa during this era.
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All in the details of the contract... Could have gone to Lybia or some other African nation as a "commercial" (not military) sale for some clandestine reason. Marked with "308" to make it look good. The non Russian ComBloc countries sent a LOT of ammo into communist factions in Africa during this era.
I agree. Highly unlikely that this was intended for the commercial market or legitimate military contract.
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