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Old March 09, 2015, 23:09   #51
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Umm, what's the point? Obama still has his pen and phone and the Republican Congress will make sure Obama gets everything he wants.

M855 will go the same way AP 7.62x39 did about 20 years ago.

Get used to it.
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Old March 09, 2015, 23:15   #52
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It was already banned in the ATF's papers before this sure to be ignored petition/list of gunowners was posted.
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Old March 10, 2015, 04:00   #53
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Numbers have been frozen for hours. I suspect foul play by the ISIS-in-Chief.

May be a standard mode of operation for these things - that and under counting what is not "desired".

http://guardianlv.com/2015/03/whiteh...ition-numbers/
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Old March 10, 2015, 07:48   #54
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The count has been stuck at 84,912 since at lest 11PM Eastern last night (it is now 8:48AM Tuesday) From chugging away at 100+ virtually each and every hour to zero...
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Old March 10, 2015, 08:53   #55
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9:51AM - still stuck. Date stamped PDF of the current count for the record. Not a refresh issue - the numbers are static on at least three separate computers using three different WIFI signals.
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Old March 10, 2015, 09:09   #56
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9:51AM - still stuck. Date stamped PDF of the current count for the record. Not a refresh issue - the numbers are static on at least three separate computers using three different WIFI signals.
I had someone try to sign. They do not send you a verification email so the vote doesn't count.

100 an hour x 10 hours = 1000 uncounted votes.
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As Cowbilly noted on post 34, this is not the first time things were frozen. I would assume that many thousands have been lost over the last couple weeks (perhaps many 10s of thousands), assuming there has not been even more blatant shenanigans. Again, as I am sure most of us know and as shown by their actions over the long haul, many/most of other side ("Progressives" and such) appear to have little to no morality or sense of fair play.

Also, I note no updates to http://savem855.com/AfterActionReport.aspx on the faxed after-action reports for several days. I would not be shocked if the people running that sight have been visited by one or more three letter agencies and had their faxes put temporarily out of action or possibly the people behind the site have been physically detained. Note: I have no firm idea why there have been no totals updated on savem855 for days but so as to make sure my comment will be added, I also sent an personal e-mail this morning to apacomments@atf.gov
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Old March 10, 2015, 10:52   #58
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Umm, what's the point? Obama still has his pen and phone and the Republican Congress will make sure Obama gets everything he wants.

M855 will go the same way AP 7.62x39 did about 20 years ago.

Get used to it.
Why bother posting your thoughts if that is your question? You are complicit in their efforts if you do nothing. Drop the defeatism and find a petition to sign, send and email or call your reps. Please do something.

It is moving as of around 1030 CDT. It was down for more that 72 hours last weekend but people who tried to sign still received a verification email.
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Old March 10, 2015, 11:00   #59
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It was already banned in the ATF's papers before this sure to be ignored petition/list of gunowners was posted.
Petitioning is step one to stopping this tyrany. If you do that and it fails you move to step two activism/peacful public protest.

BATFE has already back peddled with the "publishing error" storyline. If anything, this shows willful deceit by the agency and the administration and should have gun owners fired up. Instead there a lot that just don't care and are willing to accept it. Where does it stop?

Find a petition to sign somewhere if not this one, email, call your reps. Please do something and get others involved.

Count is at 84,941 now (1102 CDT)
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Old March 10, 2015, 11:11   #60
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/52...rticle/2561295

They are listening but it will take all gun owners to get involved and stop this crap.
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Old March 10, 2015, 11:47   #61
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ARFCOM thinks the panic buying is over.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/172...c_is_over.html

I think the drop in price of green-tip is just a supply/demand thing for the moment.
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Old March 10, 2015, 15:40   #62
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...-ban-proposal/

This a totally BS report as far as facts go but it may be a temporary victory.
Please do not relax and maintain the pressure on your reps and senators. Continue to flood BATFE with emails and faxes.

Throw in comments that the sporting clause has to go too. We have a little momentum, need to put it to good use.

85,703 Signatures, not going to make it at this rate. Please continue to circulate this link, this should not be this close, it is symbolic only but still important:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ition/XrvVh1cj
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Old March 11, 2015, 10:52   #63
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86,156 Signatures, it is only averaging a little over a thousand a day since last week. We need 2,768 a day just to reach the minimum and it is not happening.

I have exhausted all my contacts. If you know someone who might sign it please email them the link. Remember it is not over, the proposal is just shelved for now.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ition/XrvVh1cj
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Old March 12, 2015, 13:20   #64
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It's back on

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/at...rticle/2561422
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Old March 12, 2015, 14:29   #65
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Just like most of us thought and been telling the nah sayers who said "who cares, its just green tips". THEY GOING AFTER ALL "MILITARY TYPE" AMMO.

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Thanks for the link. I think even the President commented on this too.

Signatures/support have dropped dramatically since everyone thinks it is over. Only about 140 people have signed in the last 16-17 hours. There millions of gun owners that are not paying attention.

One infringement (ban) leads to another.
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Old March 12, 2015, 22:10   #67
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Signed and confirmed.
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Old March 14, 2015, 22:25   #68
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86,739 Signatures, won't make it, in fact it was dead right after the BATFE's announcement that they would back off (even though their director stated that all 5.56 is a problem Thursday or Friday).

Only 583 signatures since March 11 and 13,261 signatures would be needed in the next 24 hours, minimum.

Thanks to those who signed petitions, faxed, called and emailed. We will fight this one again I am sure of it.
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Old March 15, 2015, 01:32   #69
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86,747 as of this post. Boy we really are showing them aren't we?
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