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Umm - no. I'm an asshole, but I only post documented fact.
After you sit on a warranty repair for months, and return it to the customer with the same problem it went in for, where does it come? Yeah, to me. And as the disgraced "too corrupt for Chicago" cop, R1shooter (DSA's agent) said "gunsmith probably never even looked at it". Quote:
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To the DSA "Rep" I saw for myself a DSA receiver that was so out of spec (bolt rails) that even I who is not a gunsmith could see the problem. Mark AKA Gunplumber AKA Arrogant Bastard will not varnish the truth and will freely admit when he is wrong or is not familiar with something. I would trust Marks results long before yours (once you PROVE to be committed to fixing problems I will change my outlook) or R1Shooters lies and slandering. So again does Daniel Lombard AKA R1Shooter represent DSA or not?
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I am not sure all of what R1shooter said or did on the fal files I guess I will have to do a search. R1shooter worked with DSA but not at DSA. He tried to engage the fal files community and I think for a long while did well with it. I think what happened may have been caused from a lack of knowledge from R1shooter just because he wasn't here at DSA.
What I can state is R1shooter is a police officer in Chicago currently and is not a former officer he is active and has worked in many areas of the CPD. Like many CPD officers he has had his share of bullshit to deal with and that is what happened in regards to this article the "egoplumber" keeps citing, but he is still an active duty CPD officer and has worked their for at least 15 years that I know of. R1shooter was with DSAs testing and evaluation department. He also managed our instuctural training team. R1shooter attended various shooting competitions for us like the fort benning 3 gun shoot etc..Further more he was on our foreign military sales and demonstration team. R1shooter is a South African and American citizen and has served in the South Africa military in some capacity. Along with South African law enforcement agencies. R1shooter is not currently representing us on the fal files, but still talks with us quite often and I am certain will be working with or along side us for many many years and for that we are extremely thankful.
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If and when there's issues with DSA product we will of course address them and fix them to the level needed. AS for egoplumber we simply can not and will not trust his opinion because it's very clear he has other motives as seen by his actions and statements.
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Well, for a "professional customer service representative with nearly 10 years of firearms industry experience", you sure have not exhibited any evidence of being a professional. How about laying off the personal stuff and set about restoring some trust in your companies' product.
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If his skin is not thick enough and he wants us to lay off personal stuff we can if he asks nice and does the same, really a good forum wouldn't even allow this type of shit in the first place. We are just of the opinion it's the language he speaks because of HIS statements and actions. I dont think any level of customer service would stop his personal vendetta because it's pretty clear it's driven by ego and other motives.
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I don't mind the product discussions at all but the Chicago way and the R1shooter stuff isn't about products.
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Yeah, cut the crap and tell us about the new inspection procedures you have put in place to correct the many issues you see documented in these threads. A kit build on one of your receivers shouldn't require a milling machine.
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We have different people on each account
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We have information in the form of statements and videos coming soon. L
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I don't even believe you are a DSA representative, NO company doing business with the public would ever hire or allow you to behave this way in public. Someone please check this assholes IP addresses, I'm guessing they all come from the same place as rusty blade, or that other DSA poser shithead. Time to put in a call to DSA and ask, are you aware this smuck is posing as your representative??? Companies have legal departments that take very dim views of this shit. Now run along back to your mama's basement, its Thursday, and she cooks meat loaf on Thursday. ![]()
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When I make an assertion, everyone knows that it is true and correct to the best of my knowledge. Whatever I may lack in diplomacy, I make up in credibility. When DSA's Agent - the disgraced cop (too corrupt for Chicago PD) R1shooter, posts something, many people assume it's just another lie. Why? Because he has been caught in one lie after another. He's simply lost all credibility here. You really ought to tell him to stay off the internet when he's drinking. And when he's sober for that matter. Credibility. It matters. Quote:
Although the police board sought his termination for his abuses (corruption) and false statements (lies) and false official reports (lies), he only received a year suspension. That he lied in his official reports as a police officer, leaves little surprise that he has been caught in lie after lie here as well. (Police Board of Chicago No 12 PB 2795, CR 1006073 Daniel Lombard, badge #10022)
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I still await any of DSA's Agents to direct us to a post where I knowingly made a factually untrue statement. On the other hand, some have been trying to "get me" from the start - predating even the Fal Files. And have failed. Because I do not post anything without being able to back it up.
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We are here to listen to these concerns and anwser questions and would like to do this without talk of corruption, Chicago way or other bullshit. We will have an official company statement and more details will be announced beginning next week.
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Mark, these are not DSA reps, even DSA are NOT that stupid!
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And you know, we'll just call into the DSA main number and go from there. Now put up or shut up.
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This account was set up in 2011 when we last considered being active on here also we do not release names because it's a company account the poster/s may change from time to time. I am sorry but you will just have to deal with that situation for now if you can't I understand but it is what it is.
An official company statement and an official company point of contact will be given next week along with exciting news for fal files members. If you want to disregard my posts that's fine it's your call. Ether way You will have an official point of contact next week. Until then call DSA and ask for customer service they will do their best with questions on orders and products. Have a great weekend!!
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While I'm not the perfectionist Mark is, I can tell when a receiver is too buggered to build on, without professional machine work, by a professional gun smith. I'm a home builder, because I like to build and shoot these rifles as a hobby. If I buy a new manufactured receiver, advertised as the only one made to original FN blue prints, I expect it should build as easy as a Imbel. If such is the case with the incoming receiver, I'll certainly post the results on this board. If in fact, it turns out to be buggered and needing rework, do I return it, wait for 3 to 6 months, then recieve it back un-touched and with the same issues as the last time I? Or will you, as DSA's rep, ensure it is returned to me in a buildable condition, without my having to pay shipping and such, like last time. Just asking in advance, so I know how whether to send it back to DSA, or to Mark. Either way the wait will likely be the same, but I at least know when I get it back from Mark, it'll be repaired correctly.
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I just got off the phone with the with the Customer Service Director at DSA Arms.
His name is Mike and can be reached at (847) 277-7258 And he is not posting this shit! opps! Someone is in trouble!!!!!!! ![]()
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There have many points indicated as to 'issues' with DSA's receivers in this thread, please DSarms Rep analyse them, this is feed back(however presented) - ego aside, and see what high ground we can take here.
The 'Fal Hive', represents the 'Home' sales base for DSa. Just about anyone serious about their Fal, comes here - to learn from what really is a wealth of empirical experience, from savvy and worldly gentlemen - any disrespect, is always a symptom of something else, so please be patient - help us, help you make a better product, for us all.
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What, not wanting to run off at your mouth now, words leave ya??????
Not wanting to run off about how fugged up people are that build rifles???? IF you do work for DSA you might wish to take a course in how to win friends and influence people, because you failed the first go around.
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The account opened this year, 2017 is in fact DSA, at least that is what they told me, the account from 2011, the Customer service director has no idea who is posting to that one, again, what I was just told over the phone.
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I put my real name on all my posts.
DSA's agents hide behind anonymity, with multiple people using a single user-name. I am angry when DSA's agents lie about me. DSA is angry when I tell the truth about them. Curious, that. Must be a Chicago thing.
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Man we need a dogpile emoji. I've never used anything but LMT DSA and have spent many $$$ on DSA. But seeing the posts here about recent uppers and having personally dealt with the mag issue, you are walking into a shitstorm.
As far as Graham, he pretty much helps anyone here who can be helped at no charge. He doesn't have a vendetta, but he tells it like it is. So you are digging a hole with the real builder types here.
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If DSA can permanently fix their manufacturing issues, the members here WILL begin buying a lot more receivers, and quit starting flame threads regarding the problems encountered.
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Buy a Imbel or Argie receiver, do your build and enjoy your rifle. If DSA ever get's thier house in order, you can rebuild your kit on the receiver type you wanted in the first place.
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I've always just dreamed about assembling this unissued Austrian STG-58 on an out of spec Mexican stamped domestic upper receiver, but now I can't.
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For as long as they do not decide to go to Greco-Roman style fighting wearing the original attire -- none at all -- I will be ok.
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At least whomever was posting the crap from DSA on their old account got told to STFU!
Nothing today, a good sign, maybe, will the adults now take over the new DSA account???? ![]()
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I get your point.
At the same time, I don't care what the guys name is. As long as he backs up the claims and promises he's making with results he's ok in my book. This has yet to be determined. I do have to say the bull in the China shop way in which he came into the forums lacks professionalism and therefore casts doubt in my mind as to his real purpose. But I'm willing to withold judgement until he has a chance to prove himself. I once gave DL props for coming here and trying to help while taking a lot of crap. His lies, bullshit, and eventual attacks finally brought an end to any credibility he ever had. I can give this new anonymous character the same chance.
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So - what might be a definitive list of 'issues' with DSa receivers, such that DSa-rep can get his mantle on, and be allowed to set in progress the rectification of said issues?
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