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Old February 20, 2015, 15:07   #151
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I'd be in for a buy as well if anyone has a modded GP to sell, STG kit BTW so Austrian GP
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Old February 23, 2015, 14:00   #152
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Buy a spare and send it to me and I'll mod it for you.

I should have bought a crate of these back in the day.
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Old February 23, 2015, 22:50   #153
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Stimpy if you had that kind of foresight you would have bought a ton of M16 magazines at $5 and sold them at $70 - made you millions and we would have never heard from you again. And you would have bought all those NFA toys before the '86 ban.
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Old February 24, 2015, 18:04   #154
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342960 Gas Plug $17.55
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Old February 24, 2015, 21:30   #155
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https://www.e-sarcoinc.com/falgasplug.aspx

Israeli FAL Gas Plug Israeli
Price: $12.50
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Item Number: FAL012
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Old February 25, 2015, 07:42   #156
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Cool, thanks man.
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Old March 14, 2015, 00:39   #157
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I modded a spare gas plug to a smaller hole and tuned it to get normal extraction when installed.

It's hearing safe as near as I can tell.

5/64" was the magic number IIRC.
That's exactly what I'm collecting a couple gas plugs to do.

Were you able to tune it to run the same gas setting just by rotating the gas plug?

Was planning on putting some kind of sleeve in to protect the upper sight, then porting the grenade side (no gas hole) just enough to get cycling, then simply rotate the gas plug between A and Gr, A for unsuppressed, Gr for suppressed with the new hole I drill in it.

Did you do a thread writeup on your experiment?

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Old March 16, 2015, 13:23   #158
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That's exactly what I'm collecting a couple gas plugs to do.

Were you able to tune it to run the same gas setting just by rotating the gas plug?

Was planning on putting some kind of sleeve in to protect the upper sight, then porting the grenade side (no gas hole) just enough to get cycling, then simply rotate the gas plug between A and Gr, A for unsuppressed, Gr for suppressed with the new hole I drill in it.

Did you do a thread writeup on your experiment?
Would be a pretty boring post.

Weld
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test
done

The 5/64" allowed me to use same gas setting as unsuppressed.
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Old March 17, 2015, 19:37   #159
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Just a FYI but I bought a GP from then...listing said metric but it wouldn't fit my FAL...any thoughts Oh wise and venerable one?
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Old March 23, 2015, 08:59   #160
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Does the one you got have any ID on it? Did you mic your existing and the new one? My experience is Metric is Metric parts.
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Old March 25, 2015, 11:09   #161
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Well besides the size difference, the GPC one has a push button design on side where the STG has the arm design


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Old March 25, 2015, 11:18   #162
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Metric plugs were made in button, lever, and also grenade launcher versions.
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Old March 25, 2015, 11:25   #163
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Also has a LG or L6 marking on it.

http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Ci...zwk2r.jpg.html
I'll honestly have to shave down the tapered front to make it fit. I'm thinking its for a short spring/piston FAL
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Old March 25, 2015, 12:31   #164
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Old March 25, 2015, 13:49   #165
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Upon closer inspection, its not tapered at all. Straight up and down...
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Old March 26, 2015, 22:56   #166
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found this ...
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The part as shipped is Israeli. From the gunthings.com site: "Israeli rifles are mainly metric type parts, but certain parts are Israeli specific (such as gas plug, gas piston, gas tube, selector)." While the Israeli gas block plug diameter is correct for metric pattern gas blocks, the plugs are short for metric FALs.

And the Israelis simplified the machining of the plug locking lugs, making the lock button and washer side lugs the same dimensions.

On inch and metric pattern gas plugs the lugs are machined on a taper, with the button side lug having a larger chord than the lug on the washer side. In short, somewhat to my dismay, the part only fits Israeli FAL gas blocks.

Perhaps a distinction might be made in the catalog description for parts which are specific to the Israeli FAL?
Inch vs Standard Metric




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Old March 27, 2015, 13:46   #167
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Yeah, I checked the DS website and it matches up to an Israeli gp. Metric rifle with some inch parts. So I guess its Inch. Dammit
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Old July 14, 2015, 13:16   #168
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Shot out! Shot over!

All modified gas plugs are outbound.
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I sent you a PM about getting one of these, thank you sir.
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This has been an interesting and informative thread, guys. I am a bit confused about a couple things that I would appreciate some insight on if you please.

The discussions seem to focus on the metric FAL's. Mine is an L1A1 with a shortened (to about 17") barrel. I believe the gas system may have been drilled out some when the barrel was cut. The brass flies into the next county regardless of the numeric setting on the gas block. I do have a blackjack buffer installed in the upper.

Recently had my local 'smith thread the end of the barrel. With the adaptor for my .30 caliber SRT Shadow can (for my Colt 6920), it looks great, and seems to pass the steel guide rod test for concentricity of the FAL barrel with the can screwed on.

Question #1) I didn't read much if any discussion about suppressing an L1A1 in this thread. Anything I should know as to why not? Want to make sure I'm not missing anything here.

Question #2) Should I even test fire this set-up as described above or should I just send stimpy a spare part to have modified first?

Thanks, fellas, for your comments.
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The brass flies into the next county regardless of the numeric setting on the gas block.
This means your gas block hole is too large. You may need a plug with a smaller hole to even get you back on the map. But first make sure nothing is covering up the exit port on the gas block. Unscrew the adjusting collar and remove the plug and piston and make sure the opening under the collar has a hole all the way through into the block. Sometimes the tube gets rotated and you essentially have a rifle stuck on max gas.

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I do have a blackjack buffer installed in the upper.
I dislike these devices, they tend to fall apart in the rifle when you least want them to.

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Recently had my local 'smith thread the end of the barrel. With the adaptor for my .30 caliber SRT Shadow can (for my Colt 6920), it looks great, and seems to pass the steel guide rod test for concentricity of the FAL barrel with the can screwed on.

Question #1) I didn't read much if any discussion about suppressing an L1A1 in this thread. Anything I should know as to why not? Want to make sure I'm not missing anything here.

Question #2) Should I even test fire this set-up as described above or should I just send stimpy a spare part to have modified first?

Thanks, fellas, for your comments.
Not much different about the inch as far as the gas adjustment goes. They look different, but the function is the same.

Again, check the tube and if everything looks right then we can try a modded plug to see if it gets you back on the adjustment map. If so a plug with an even smaller hole may be appropriate for the can.
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Thanks for your speedy reply, Stimpson. I'll check the tube in the next day or two and get back with you.

Yeah, I agree about the buffer but I thought I'd try to mitigate some of the impact the bolt was having with the rear of the lower due to the (believed) enlarged, drilled out gas block, as evidenced by the trajectory of the ejected brass.

I don't need to shoot this rifle any time soon so I can wait to make sure I'm not going to damage it or myself in the process.
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Old February 10, 2016, 09:11   #173
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Donation thread for 2015 plugs is up.

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I need a adapter to go from I guess 5/8x24 to FAL STG58 Austrian for suppressor, where can I get this?
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