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Old May 09, 2019, 06:33   #1
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More shooting through windshields during PD chase

As I watch this, I wonder how much the 9mm is really effective after going through a windshield.



https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...508-story.html

Video shows Anaheim police firing 76 shots during ‘alarming and irresponsible’ chase



Orange County prosecutors Wednesday released dramatic video showing two Anaheim police officers firing 76 shots at a suspect during a high-speed pursuit that the district attorney’s office called “alarming and irresponsible.”

One of the officers has been fired, and the other faces potential internal discipline after firing through the windshield of a police cruiser at a man they believed to be armed, ultimately killing him.

Eliuth Penaloza Nava, 50, was struck by at least nine bullets.

Orange County Dist. Atty. Todd Spitzer’s office on Wednesday released videos of the incident and a letter analyzing the deadly shooting. Prosecutors, while finding that the officers ultimately acted legally because of the threat of what they believed to be a real gun in the hands of a man high on narcotics, took the unusual step of questioning the officers’ behavior.

“The fact that the two involved officers discharged their weapons 76 times, from a moving patrol car at Nava’s moving car, at approximately 9:30 a.m. on a Saturday morning, in a residential neighborhood where residents, including children, were home and on the streets, was alarming and irresponsible based on the totality of all the circumstances in this specific case,” the report stated.

The “conclusion that all of the available evidence is insufficient to warrant the filing of criminal charges against the two officers should not in any way diminish the fact that [this office] is alarmed by this conduct,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Scott Wooldridge wrote.

Officer Kevin Pedersen, the driver of the police cruiser during the pursuit, was terminated as a probationary officer, and Officer Sean Staymates, a 10-year veteran, faces potential discipline and remains on administrative leave, Anaheim Police Chief Jorge Cisneros said.
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Old May 09, 2019, 13:07   #2
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The “conclusion that all of the available evidence is insufficient to warrant the filing of criminal charges against the two officers should not in any way diminish the fact that [this office] is alarmed by this conduct,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Scott Wooldridge wrote.
How about reckless endangering?...I assume Kenyafornia has a law against that. Holy crap that was nothing but reckless and stupid. I wonder if they are trained to do this? My chief would not only have prosecuted them, he and the rest of the dept would have drug them out behind the station and worked them over with their batons.

This is beyond shocking behavior!
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Old May 09, 2019, 13:16   #3
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They didn't neutralize the threat, they assassinated it.
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Like I say....some people just shouldn't have guns.
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THAT is SUCH BULLSHIT.......... All I hear is the other cop yelling shoot shoot shoot....

I go to Frontsight for classes and they stress that WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY ROUND WE FIRE in a shoot out and 'WE' cannot afford to have errant rounds going everywhere......and these fuckers blast away while driving,in a res area,from a moving car... I would like to see a report on where the other rounds went... looks like total bad shoot to me and those 2 should be prosecuted..........
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Old May 09, 2019, 15:22   #6
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When I was doing that stuff back in the 80's, our general orders expressly prohibited firing at a moving vehicle, or from a moving vehicle.
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Old May 10, 2019, 09:48   #7
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kommiefornia execution squad should be fired for wasting taxpayer resources. the chinese do it with just one bullet.

so, he didn't even have a gun. hard to paint this one in a good light.
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Looks like reckless driving to me, let alone shooting!
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wonder were all those bullets went
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Some dumb as dog shit behaviour there.... at the very least the one unloading the Glock out the windscreen needs prosecuting. Even after he alights his vehicle and keeps on dumping round after round you have to ask yourself about where down that residential street the misses are landing.... retard.
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Old May 11, 2019, 01:54   #12
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Okay, here's the deal going on here in my opinion.

You have an Officer incapable of using his left hand for other than maintaining his car. Piggie panic shoots right through the windshield

actually, this is common. Right handed folks are often mentally disabled from using the left hand,
Think back folks
Didn't we all have GFs that when sitting in the passenger seat had to crossarm with the right to change the radio station ?
yeah quite a few are getting the picture now...

you have to be straight dumbass to try to shoot through the windshield
well unless your left arm is basically mentally disabled and it truly is with many shooters.

I am hardcore lefthanded but I'm a mutant in that I am cross dominant.
I write with my left but my right eye is the dominant one
For precision I prefer my right hand with a pistol, I can murder shit just as easily with my left within 30 odd yards
I shoot off my right shoulder as well but can shift left when needed
CD lefties ?
we are like 3% of the left handed population. yeah we are super rare overall, far less than 1% and I would not do that shit.

That piggie should face charges for reckless discharge at the least.
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Old May 11, 2019, 17:42   #13
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Howdy, fellow mutant.
If anyone... anyone at all that wasn't a cop, did this, they'd be in jail the rest of their lives.
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insert standard department procedure here:


nothing to see here, move along, police business, keep moving

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there now nothing for you to worry about
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Well that looks like shit straight out of a movie like Bullitt. At least they got their man and a notch in their holsters. There will be one hell of a lawsuit.
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Well that looks like shit straight out of a movie like Bullitt. At least they got their man and a notch in their holsters. There will be one hell of a lawsuit.
No way, bullitt had a much better chase scene.
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No way, bullitt had a much better chase scene.
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Who the **** trained these police officers that discharging a firearm inside a vehicle is a good idea?

Who the **** thinks a 9mm/.40 caliber bullet has much energy or accuracy after going through a windshield from the inside out?

Not to mention that this happened in a residential area in Anaheim California, a fairly upscale community in Southern California?

What do you bet both these officers sue the state for permanent disability due to the permanent hearing loss they imposed on themselves by pulling this stupid stunt. Did you guys catch the one officer saying he could not hear the other officers after they murdered their victim?

If anybody thinks these assclowns will not willingly take your guns from you after the ban, you are not thinking well at all.
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There are side effects from the poicy of hiring substandard IQ goons who will follow confiscation orders but the policymakers could not care less.

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Dipshit #1: “I can’t fuckin’ hear!”

Dipshit #2: “Neither can I.”

Can’t imagine why. . .



Now I’m just wondering when lockjaw is gonna stop by and tell us what a “ROCKSTAR” this cop is. . .
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9 rounds supposedly hit the homicide victim. So there are 67 (give or take) rounds unaccounted for.
Every one of them hit “something”.
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As I watch this, I wonder how much the 9mm is really effective after going through a windshield.



https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...508-story.html

Video shows Anaheim police firing 76 shots during ‘alarming and irresponsible’ chase



Orange County prosecutors Wednesday released dramatic video showing two Anaheim police officers firing 76 shots at a suspect during a high-speed pursuit that the district attorney’s office called “alarming and irresponsible.”

One of the officers has been fired, and the other faces potential internal discipline after firing through the windshield of a police cruiser at a man they believed to be armed, ultimately killing him.

Eliuth Penaloza Nava, 50, was struck by at least nine bullets.

Orange County Dist. Atty. Todd Spitzer’s office on Wednesday released videos of the incident and a letter analyzing the deadly shooting. Prosecutors, while finding that the officers ultimately acted legally because of the threat of what they believed to be a real gun in the hands of a man high on narcotics, took the unusual step of questioning the officers’ behavior.

“The fact that the two involved officers discharged their weapons 76 times, from a moving patrol car at Nava’s moving car, at approximately 9:30 a.m. on a Saturday morning, in a residential neighborhood where residents, including children, were home and on the streets, was alarming and irresponsible based on the totality of all the circumstances in this specific case,” the report stated.

The “conclusion that all of the available evidence is insufficient to warrant the filing of criminal charges against the two officers should not in any way diminish the fact that [this office] is alarmed by this conduct,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Scott Wooldridge wrote.

Officer Kevin Pedersen, the driver of the police cruiser during the pursuit, was terminated as a probationary officer, and Officer Sean Staymates, a 10-year veteran, faces potential discipline and remains on administrative leave, Anaheim Police Chief Jorge Cisneros said.
I know for a fact they will end up going way low which means substantial velocity loss. but they will still hurt if they hit. probably has 40 loose bullets in the truck bed. that hearing loss, I wondered when that would come out. I don't think they could hear each other in the car. skillful reaction! That high tool box has got to be intended as armor. this must be the barrio gun ride.

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They said on subguns.com that the driving po-po got fired and the one with the AR was the FTO and is on suspension.

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Camera footage from both sides of the car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_-YTx5wWEg
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