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Old October 31, 2015, 20:12   #1
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U.S. Supreme Court says No License Necessary To Drive Automobile On Public Highways/Streets

Apr 21, 2015

U.S. SUPREME COURT AND OTHER HIGH COURT CITATIONS PROVING THAT NO LICENSE IS NECESSARY FOR NORMAL USE OF AN AUTOMOBILE ON COMMON WAYS

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"The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this constitutional guaranty one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct."

Thompson v.Smith, 154 SE 579, 11 American Jurisprudence, Constitutional Law, section 329, page 1135 "The right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, is a common right which he has under the right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right, in so doing, to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day, and under the existing modes of travel, includes the right to drive a horse drawn carriage or wagon thereon or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purpose of life and business." -

Thompson vs. Smith, supra.; Teche Lines vs. Danforth, Miss., 12 S.2d 784 "… the right of the citizen to drive on a public street with freedom from police interference… is a fundamental constitutional right" -White, 97 Cal.App.3d.141, 158 Cal.Rptr. 562, 566-67 (1979) “citizens have a right to drive upon the public streets of the District of Columbia or any other city absent a constitutionally sound reason for limiting their access.”

Caneisha Mills v. D.C. 2009 “The use of the automobile as a necessary adjunct to the earning of a livelihood in modern life requires us in the interest of realism to conclude that the RIGHT to use an automobile on the public highways partakes of the nature of a liberty within the meaning of the Constitutional guarantees. . .”

Berberian v. Lussier (1958) 139 A2d 869, 872, See also: Schecter v. Killingsworth, 380 P.2d 136, 140; 93 Ariz. 273 (1963). “The right to operate a motor vehicle [an automobile] upon the public streets and highways is not a mere privilege. It is a right of liberty, the enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees of the federal and state constitutions.”

Adams v. City of Pocatello, 416 P.2d 46, 48; 91 Idaho 99 (1966). “A traveler has an equal right to employ an automobile as a means of transportation and to occupy the public highways with other vehicles in common use.”

Campbell v. Walker, 78 Atl. 601, 603, 2 Boyce (Del.) 41. “The owner of an automobile has the same right as the owner of other vehicles to use the highway,* * * A traveler on foot has the same right to the use of the public highways as an automobile or any other vehicle.”

Simeone v. Lindsay, 65 Atl. 778, 779; Hannigan v. Wright, 63 Atl. 234, 236. "The RIGHT of the citizen to DRIVE on the public street with freedom from police interference, unless he is engaged in suspicious conduct associated in some manner with criminality is a FUNDAMENTAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT which must be protected by the courts." People v. Horton 14 Cal. App. 3rd 667 (1971) “The right to make use of an automobile as a vehicle of travel long the highways of the state, is no longer an open question. The owners thereof have the same rights in the roads and streets as the drivers of horses or those riding a bicycle or traveling in some other vehicle.”

House v. Cramer, 112 N.W. 3; 134 Iowa 374; Farnsworth v. Tampa Electric Co. 57 So. 233, 237, 62 Fla. 166. “The automobile may be used with safety to others users of the highway, and in its proper use upon the highways there is an equal right with the users of other vehicles properly upon the highways. The law recognizes such right of use upon general principles.

Brinkman v Pacholike, 84 N.E. 762, 764, 41 Ind. App. 662, 666. “The law does not denounce motor carriages, as such, on public ways. They have an equal right with other vehicles in common use to occupy the streets and roads. It is improper to say that the driver of the horse has rights in the roads superior to the driver of the automobile. Both have the right to use the easement.”

Indiana Springs Co. v. Brown, 165 Ind. 465, 468. U.S. Supreme Court says No License Necessary To Drive Automobile On Public Highways/Streets No License Is Necessary Copy and Share Freely*YHVH.name*2 2 “A highway is a public way open and free to any one who has occasion to pass along it on foot or with any kind of vehicle.” Schlesinger v. City of Atlanta, 129 S.E. 861, 867, 161 Ga. 148, 159;

Holland v. Shackelford, 137 S.E. 2d 298, 304, 220 Ga. 104; Stavola v. Palmer, 73 A.2d 831, 838, 136 Conn. 670 “There can be no question of the right of automobile owners to occupy and use the public streets of cities, or highways in the rural districts.” Liebrecht v. Crandall, 126 N.W. 69, 110 Minn. 454, 456 "The word ‘automobile’ connotes a pleasure vehicle designed for the transportation of persons on highways."

-American Mutual Liability Ins. Co., vs. Chaput, 60 A.2d 118, 120; 95 NH 200 Motor Vehicle: 18 USC Part 1 Chapter 2 section 31 definitions: "(6) Motor vehicle. - The term "motor vehicle" means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways…" 10) The term "used for commercial purposes" means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit. "A motor vehicle or automobile for hire is a motor vehicle, other than an automobile stage, used for the transportation of persons for which remuneration is received."

-International Motor Transit Co. vs. Seattle, 251 P. 120 The term ‘motor vehicle’ is different and broader than the word ‘automobile.’"

-City of Dayton vs. DeBrosse, 23 NE.2d 647, 650; 62 Ohio App. 232 "Thus self-driven vehicles are classified according to the use to which they are put rather than according to the means by which they are propelled" - Ex Parte Hoffert, 148 NW 20 "

The Supreme Court, in Arthur v. Morgan, 112 U.S. 495, 5 S.Ct. 241, 28 L.Ed. 825, held that carriages were properly classified as household effects, and we see no reason that automobiles should not be similarly disposed of."

Hillhouse v United States, 152 F. 163, 164 (2nd Cir. 1907). "...a citizen has the right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon..." State vs. Johnson, 243 P. 1073; Cummins vs. Homes, 155 P. 171; Packard vs. Banton, 44 S.Ct. 256; Hadfield vs. Lundin, 98 Wash 516, Willis vs. Buck, 263 P. l 982;

Barney vs. Board of Railroad Commissioners, 17 P.2d 82 "The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental Right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived."

Chicago Motor Coach vs. Chicago, 169 NE 22; Ligare vs. Chicago, 28 NE 934; Boon vs. Clark, 214 SSW 607; 25 Am.Jur. (1st) Highways Sect.163 "the right of the Citizen to travel upon the highway and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business… is the usual and ordinary right of the Citizen, a right common to all." -

Ex Parte Dickey, (Dickey vs. Davis), 85 SE 781 “Every Citizen has an unalienable RIGHT to make use of the public highways of the state; every Citizen has full freedom to travel from place to place in the enjoyment of life and liberty.” People v. Nothaus, 147 Colo. 210. "No State government entity has the power to allow or deny passage on the highways, byways, nor waterways... transporting his vehicles and personal property for either recreation or business, but by being subject only to local regulation i.e., safety, caution, traffic lights, speed limits, etc. Travel is not a privilege requiring licensing, vehicle registration, or forced insurances."

Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago, 337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22. "Traffic infractions are not a crime." People v. Battle "Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a prerequisite to exercise of right... may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of such right."

Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 394 U.S. 147 (1969). U.S. Supreme Court says No License Necessary To Drive Automobile On Public Highways/Streets No License Is Necessary Copy and Share Freely*YHVH.name*3 "The word 'operator' shall not include any person who solely transports his own property and who transports no persons or property for hire or compensation."

Statutes at Large California Chapter 412 p.83 "Highways are for the use of the traveling public, and all have the right to use them in a reasonable and proper manner; the use thereof is an inalienable right of every citizen." Escobedo v. State 35 C2d 870 in 8 Cal Jur 3d p.27 “RIGHT -- A legal RIGHT, a constitutional RIGHT means a RIGHT protected by the law, by the constitution, but government does not create the idea of RIGHT or original RIGHTS; it acknowledges them. . . “ Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1914, p. 2961. “Those who have the right to do something cannot be licensed for what they already have right to do as such license would be meaningless.”

City of Chicago v Collins 51 NE 907, 910. “A license means leave to do a thing which the licensor could prevent.” Blatz Brewing Co. v. Collins, 160 P.2d 37, 39; 69 Cal. A. 2d 639. “The object of a license is to confer a right or power, which does not exist without it.”

Payne v. Massey (19__) 196 SW 2nd 493, 145 Tex 273. “The court makes it clear that a license relates to qualifications to engage in profession, business, trade or calling; thus, when merely traveling without compensation or profit, outside of business enterprise or adventure with the corporate state, no license is required of the natural individual traveling for personal business, pleasure and transportation.”

Wingfield v. Fielder 2d Ca. 3d 213 (1972). “If [state] officials construe a vague statute unconstitutionally, the citizen may take them at their word, and act on the assumption that the statute is void.” -

Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 394 U.S. 147 (1969). "With regard particularly to the U.S. Constitution, it is elementary that a Right secured or protected by that document cannot be overthrown or impaired by any state police authority." Donnolly vs. Union Sewer Pipe Co., 184 US 540; Lafarier vs. Grand Trunk R.R. Co., 24 A. 848; O'Neil vs. Providence Amusement Co., 108 A. 887. "The right to travel (called the right of free ingress to other states, and egress from them) is so fundamental that it appears in the Articles of Confederation, which governed our society before the Constitution."

(Paul v. Virginia). "[T]he right to travel freely from State to State ... is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." (U.S. Supreme Court,

Shapiro v. Thompson). EDGERTON, Chief Judge: “Iron curtains have no place in a free world. ...'Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the Constitution.'

Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270, 274, 21 S.Ct. 128, 45 L.Ed. 186. “Our nation has thrived on the principle that, outside areas of plainly harmful conduct, every American is left to shape his own life as he thinks best, do what he pleases, go where he pleases.” Id., at 197.

Kent vs. Dulles see Vestal, Freedom of Movement, 41 Iowa L.Rev. 6, 13—14. “The validity of restrictions on the freedom of movement of particular individuals, both substantively and procedurally, is precisely the sort of matter that is the peculiar domain of the courts.” Comment, 61 Yale L.J. at page 187. “a person detained for an investigatory stop can be questioned but is “not obliged to answer, answers may not be compelled, and refusal to answer furnishes no basis for an arrest.”Justice White, Hiibel “Automobiles have the right to use the highways of the State on an equal footing with other vehicles.”

Cumberland Telephone. & Telegraph Co. v Yeiser 141 Kentucy 15. “Each citizen has the absolute right to choose for himself the mode of conveyance he desires, whether it be by wagon or carriage, by horse, motor or electric car, or by bicycle, or astride of a horse, subject to the sole condition that he will observe all those requirements that are known as the law of the road.”

Swift v City of Topeka, 43 U.S. Supreme Court says No License Necessary To Drive Automobile On Public Highways/Streets No License Is Necessary Copy and Share Freely*YHVH.name*4 Kansas 671, 674. The Supreme Court said in U.S. v Mersky (1960) 361 U.S. 431: An administrative regulation, of course, is not a "statute." A traveler on foot has the same right to use of the public highway as an automobile or any other vehicle.

Cecchi v. Lindsay, 75 Atl. 376, 377, 1 Boyce (Del.) 185. Automotive vehicles are lawful means of conveyance and have equal rights upon the streets with horses and carriages.

Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago, 337 Ill. 200, 205; See also: Christy v. Elliot, 216 Ill. 31; Ward v. Meredith, 202 Ill. 66; Shinkle v. McCullough, 116 Ky. 960; Butler v. Cabe, 116 Ark. 26, 28-29. …automobiles are lawful vehicles and have equal rights on the highways with horses and carriages. Daily v. Maxwell, 133 S.W. 351, 354.

Matson v. Dawson, 178 N.W. 2d 588, 591. A farmer has the same right to the use of the highways of the state, whether on foot or in a motor vehicle, as any other citizen.

Draffin v. Massey, 92 S.E.2d 38, 42. Persons may lawfully ride in automobiles, as they may lawfully ride on bicycles. Doherty v. Ayer, 83 N.E. 677, 197 Mass. 241, 246;

Molway v. City of Chicago, 88 N.E. 485, 486, 239 Ill. 486; Smiley v. East St. Louis Ry. Co., 100 N.E. 157, 158. "A soldier's personal automobile is part of his ‘household goods[.]’

U.S. v Bomar, C.A.5(Tex.), 8 F.3d 226, 235" 19A Words and Phrases - Permanent Edition (West) pocket part 94. "[I]t is a jury question whether ... an automobile ... is a motor vehicle[.]"

United States v Johnson, 718 F.2d 1317, 1324 (5th Cir. 1983). Other right to use an automobile cases: -

EDWARDS VS. CALIFORNIA, 314 U.S. 160 -

TWINING VS NEW JERSEY, 211 U.S. 78 - WILLIAMS VS. FEARS, 179 U.S. 270, AT 274 - CRANDALL VS. NEVADA, 6 WALL. 35, AT 43-44 - THE PASSENGER CASES, 7 HOWARD 287, AT 492 - U.S. VS. GUEST, 383 U.S. 745, AT 757-758 (1966) -

GRIFFIN VS. BRECKENRIDGE, 403 U.S. 88, AT 105-106 (1971) - CALIFANO VS. TORRES, 435 U.S. 1, AT 4, note 6 -

SHAPIRO VS. THOMPSON, 394 U.S. 618 (1969) - CALIFANO VS. AZNAVORIAN, 439 U.S. 170, AT 176 (1978)
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That is a damn nice safe. Easily worth the starting bid. You Arizona guys should jump on it.
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Well, while I somewhat agree with the gal, don't matter...you try that shit 9 times out of 10 or more you don't pass go, you will go straight to jail.

Federal code was originally intended to be operative only within Federal jurisdiction which meant Federally owned properties such as Military Reservations, National Forest Lands, etc.
That's where the actual jurisdiction lays.

This should not be confused with revenue acts
For example much of the Drug War is tax based as is the Whole of Gun Control at the federal level...impose a tax then impose regulation to enforce collection of said taxation.

Likely 30 to 40% of Federal code is Taxation based

Up here for example I have seen folks prosecuted before Federal Magistrates for silly crap like DUI on forestry trails in National forest land. You would think it would be tried in the County Court system but instead it goes Federal and sometimes folks have ended up doing a month in a Federal Prison just based on where they were when the offense occurred.

Federal Magistrates are also used by corrupt LE in Warrant shopping
Federal District Judges here tend to be seriously solid performers, mostly true of Federal Prosecutors. Same with local DAs
Sometimes the Boy Pigs get turned down by all so they end up going to the local Federal Timber Magistrate to obtain search warrants for lands not even within their jurisdiction.
It's a common tactic among Drug Task forces.
These Magistrates are part time at best and even when the piglets and Magistrate are called on the game they claim a "Good Faith" exception, basically they were ignorant of actual physical jurisdiction thus there is no fruit of the poisonous tree and the case is allowed to proceed.

I have known a few folks in this movement, couple were successful, most were not
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Know folks that take every opportunity to rebuke and push the system. Will do my best to have a license for everything will ever do, be polite to cops, judges, building inspectors, code emforcement, etc. Follow rules best I can and use the words "sir" and "ma'am" very often. Carry over 40 state/federal trade licenses for work, have all my required paperwork for vehicles including commercial drivers license, motorcycle endorsement and do my post trip inspection log everytime park a truck at end of the day (requirement for business vehicles). Do not have the time to debate semantics of legal system with law enforcement on side of road then get bonded out of jail, appear in court, debate legal system with judge in bad mood over fight with wife, solicitor whose been told county is short on budget to try and collect maximum fines, then find myself in contempt of court just for blinking. When live in the last great bastion of communism just have to deal with it in manner each individual sees fit.

Have defended myself five times in traffic court and every time charges were dropped. Last two, even though judge dimissed charges had to pay court fees that exceeded cost of ticket for violation accused of. Due to migraines have a state issued permit for dark window tint. Cop wrote ticket saying had never heard of such and even though showed him the permit said was not his job to interpret the law and let the judge figure it out. Judge threw out charges but attached a $50 court fee while dismissing a $35 ticket and acted lIke dI'd me a favor. Would have saved $15 and half day driving to another county and waiting my turn to see the judge. It's all a racket and going to get some of your money one way or the other.

Could be buying solvent trap parts and odd plumbing fittings to avoid $200 per device for suppressors. The 10 year, $10,000 fine on back side of that seems a bit out of balance with a $200 up front fee and few months wait and nicely engineered device. Same with Form 1's, had a friend offer to give me a box of parts a long time ago. When saw what they were ordered off my property. He purchased internals from one site and externals from another. Were engineered to assemble seamlessly together. Was so nice and when went to the separate sites applied for a Form 1 and when cleared purchased a few parts on the cheap... Find staying between the lines on rules has not limited my ability to enjoy life and removed a lot of stress. Binary triggers, one stamp SBR's and AR pistols with SIG Brace type devices have rifles that are close enough to the real deal cheap enough don't need any part of that trouble.
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Huey...

Some people just don't realise when they are a victim of fraud and when things are not actually required, when you are told that you have to do some thing and aren't given full disclosure of the contract and further aren't told that this thing you are told you must do is based on a contractual act that is fraud.

If you are OK with being bent over and screwed by government then have at it.

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Know folks that take every opportunity to rebuke and push the system. Will do my best to have a license for everything will ever do, be polite to cops, judges, building inspectors, code emforcement, etc. Follow rules best I can and use the words "sir" and "ma'am" very often. Carry over 40 state/federal trade licenses for work, have all my required paperwork for vehicles including commercial drivers license, motorcycle endorsement and do my post trip inspection log everytime park a truck at end of the day (requirement for business vehicles). Do not have the time to debate semantics of legal system with law enforcement on side of road then get bonded out of jail, appear in court, debate legal system with judge in bad mood over fight with wife, solicitor whose been told county is short on budget to try and collect maximum fines, then find myself in contempt of court just for blinking. When live in the last great bastion of communism just have to deal with it in manner each individual sees fit.

Have defended myself five times in traffic court and every time charges were dropped. Last two, even though judge dimissed charges had to pay court fees that exceeded cost of ticket for violation accused of. Due to migraines have a state issued permit for dark window tint. Cop wrote ticket saying had never heard of such and even though showed him the permit said was not his job to interpret the law and let the judge figure it out. Judge threw out charges but attached a $50 court fee while dismissing a $35 ticket and acted lIke dI'd me a favor. Would have saved $15 and half day driving to another county and waiting my turn to see the judge. It's all a racket and going to get some of your money one way or the other.

Could be buying solvent trap parts and odd plumbing fittings to avoid $200 per device for suppressors. The 10 year, $10,000 fine on back side of that seems a bit out of balance with a $200 up front fee and few months wait and nicely engineered device. Same with Form 1's, had a friend offer to give me a box of parts a long time ago. When saw what they were ordered off my property. He purchased internals from one site and externals from another. Were engineered to assemble seamlessly together. Was so nice and when went to the separate sites applied for a Form 1 and when cleared purchased a few parts on the cheap... Find staying between the lines on rules has not limited my ability to enjoy life and removed a lot of stress. Binary triggers, one stamp SBR's and AR pistols with SIG Brace type devices have rifles that are close enough to the real deal cheap enough don't need any part of that trouble.
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Not o.k. with it but have no desire to be the test case paying lawyers all the way to the Supreme Court. It's called choosing your battles, I could easily drop half the paperwork do every week and odds are single digit a Federal Alphabet Agency audits my post trip inspection logs, fall protection plans for each job work more than six feet off ground, Utilities Protection Location orders for every site dig with shovel but if fall in that catagory fine for missing a single MSDS sheet is $47,500.00 and I don't want to fork that over to OSHA or pay lawyers to fight it. It's like not walking through Sharia Law neighborhoods in Paris, have the full right as a tourist to walk wherever in Paris but after one wrong turn and half a block into such a neighborhood won't ever do so again. It's called self preservation and I will err toward financial, legal or personal safetly if all it takes is a little bit of paperwork. Like screwing crack hoes, going to go bareback or wear your rain boots? No rule says have to wear the latex...
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Well, everybody wants their plumber to be licensed, of course we don't have an unalienable right to put wax rings under porcelain bowls for a living.


The entire concept of licensing comes from society wanting to ensure that the other yahoos out there aren't going to kill their wives and daughters on the highway because they received no training, testing, or screening in the safe operation of 3000 pounds of steel going 70 miles per hour. Or wire the electricity in their house, fly a jet carrying 125 people,etc etc. It is when you find out that a license is required to cut hair or buff fingernails or have a PTA bake sale that it starts to become obvious that revenue has surpassed safety in the minds of the drones we employ to serve us.
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A taste of what my law research group has been producing.

BTW If Huey or any others feel like bending over for the man have at it, it makes no difference to me what so ever.

It's sad but that is what most are use to doing, it's taught in all levels of education that you do what you are told by the man and every other form of government.

That is what good slaves do..


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I couldn't wait to get my drivers license when I was 16...........
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Old July 17, 2017, 17:10   #15
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Ditto, little did I realise at the time it was a contract and I wasn't of age to enter into any contract.

Knowing this now should make it real easy to get rid of it.

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Old July 17, 2017, 19:56   #16
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please film that when you are demanding law enforcement officer to fill out his "home address".

16 pages...hahaha

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Old July 17, 2017, 20:42   #17
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Yes, all of my LEO encounters are filmed and audio recorded to the cloud for mainly my protection and the officers.

If they kill me on the side of the highway my wife may be setup for life.

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please film that when you are demanding law enforcement officer to fill out his "home address".

16 pages...hahaha

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Have weighed in on this multiple times and can't repeat due to lack of time. I now spend over 20 hours a week on unnecessary paperwork. MSDS sheets for a single roll of tape, fall protection plans to change a single lightbulb and so many more. Most companies I work for have OSHA and EPA compliance departments that doubled in size under Nobama. I can't pick up a shovel without a licence. In Georgia, a homeowner can't legally dig a hole on their own property or cut the grass under the service line entering their house without having UPC come mark property. Wife wants a birdfeeder, call UPC. (cost me $5,000 putting up birdfeeder for ex wife without calling for a locate 30 years ago) Cut your grass call UPC. If went into a Georgia Warm Air License for HVAC would have to shoot myself due to how bad the rules piss me off. I do not mind following rules that make sense like permits and inspections when build stuff. But $47,500 fine because purchased Lowe's brand rattle can of white paint instead of Krylon and forgot to file a single MSDS sheet is ludicrous.
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