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Old April 20, 2010, 13:13   #101
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vials

that bart guy at candle power forums CURRENTLY has (AS OF 4-22-10) the 2x8 vials in green or blue that fit the S.U.I.T. trilux. Also some other sizes in. FYI.
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http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...=222461&page=4

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Old April 27, 2010, 19:12   #102
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I just re-animated two SUIT scopes using four 1.5x55mm red tritium vials I bought from Bart from the CPF Forums.
After cleaning out the cutouts, I used two vials per scope, and put them in side by side. Red is what you want as green is just too bright IMO.
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Old September 02, 2010, 20:54   #103
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Just ordered tritium from B@rt at CPF 1.55x5mm x 1 RED @ $7.50 ea. and 2x8mm x 1 GREEN @ $11.00 ea.

Can't wait until I can reactivate the night sight. Interestingly when I got the original expired tritium bulb out it still had a very slight glow that I could just barely see a slight glow in my peripheral vision...very dim but still there.

I'm going to try and install both tritium devices in the sight one at each end of the oval mount and see if I can do a direct comparison between the two colors.
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Old October 26, 2010, 20:39   #104
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Gents,

What is the odds on favorite tritium without having to dremel?

A single 2x8mm?
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Two 1.55x5mm?
or
Whichever is in stock?


Secure with a little spackle? How much is "a little"?


What are you using to position the vial(s)? Tweezers? (Not a gunsmith)
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Old October 27, 2010, 03:22   #105
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I used two 1.55x5 red vials. Each one is about the size of a grain of rice, and they will fit side by side with no mods to the cap.

I used a dental pick to put them in place. Before I put these in, I put some of the material in the recess first, filling the cavity almost to the top, then placed the vials toward one end, then covered one half of them with the spackle. Make sure everything is flush, or slightly below flush.
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Old March 03, 2011, 21:20   #106
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Bart's new thread;

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...read-Part-Deux
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Old April 18, 2011, 18:31   #107
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Damn I did not see this. I have ordered 2x 1.55 x 5.5mm green vials. Will these be sufficient to light up my fibre optic in my suit ?
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Old April 18, 2011, 20:07   #108
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I just did mine a couple weeks ago and that's what I used. I would call it adequate, it's bright enough but not too bright for my taste. If I had it to do over I would probably put one or two more in and try to brighten it up and use the dial to turn it down a little. Others may chime in.
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Old April 19, 2011, 07:41   #109
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Excellent many thanks for the reply , made me feel better !
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Old May 03, 2011, 00:17   #110
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Well, I just re-animated my Trilux using 2 of B@rt's 1.55x5mm ice-blue tritium vials. The ice-blue vials are very subtle and the reason why I used two. I used wall repair spackle and set the two vials flush. All in all, I think its going to work fine. The fiberoptic tip is bright enough to be usable, but in no way overpowering.

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Old May 22, 2011, 09:38   #111
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has anyone else had trouble getting the retaining ring out? I just bought one from a guy in the marketplace and the retaining ring has no holes in it and the ring is very tight, even small hemostats won't get under or around it.

has anyone had a similar situation and what was your remedy?
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Old May 22, 2011, 10:19   #112
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the retaining ring has no holes in it
Sounds like someone did you wrong! I have never seen an internal snap ring without holes for snap ring pliers.

You may be able to get a sharp point under one end and pull it out. Once you get an edge out, you should be able to get a small screwdriver underneath and start working it out.

Getting it out is most likely bugger the top up pretty good.

If I were you, I would be really ticked off.
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Old May 22, 2011, 14:30   #113
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There is no way to get anything under or on either side of it, sucks, plus you can tell someone scared it up trying already. As stated it was bought here in the marketplace but it does appear I was taken advantage of
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Old May 22, 2011, 15:50   #114
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If you have a good drill press, you might try drilling the missing holes in the snap ring. Problem is the snap ring is spring steel so you would need a carbide drill bit and as small as it is, it would be real easy to break the bit.

Also, a diamond tip cutter, like a dentist drill, might cut the ring in half so you could get it out in pieces. I wouldn't trust my hands to be steady enough to do that without slipping and scratching sommething so I would protect the scope housing and sacrifice the insert. Mountainman has been making replacements so you can get another from him.

You might email gunplumber on this forum and see if he has any ideas. He's really good.
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Old June 08, 2011, 09:29   #115
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an update, I was able to get the ring out without too much damage, but now that i have reanimated my scope i need another snap ring. the one i took out was not the right one obviously and it was damaged significantly so i was wondering if anyone had dims on theirs so i could buy a replacement. any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Old June 08, 2011, 09:55   #116
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That's a standard internal snap ring. The Brits call them circlips. You can probably get a pack of them at home depot for less than $5.

I believe it's a 1/2" but I will try to remember to measure one of mine this evening and let you know for sure.

You will need a set of internal snap ring pliers to install it properly and definitely to remove it. You may be able to install it without the pliers by forcing it in but you will scratch up the housing doing it. Make sure the pliers you buy have tips that fit the holes in the snap ring. I bought a kit that has several interchangable tips that works good.

Out of curiosity, how did you get the original out?
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Old June 08, 2011, 10:02   #117
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it was a mess, i actually ended up cutting it it the middle (the snap ring) with a combination of dremel and a tiny drill bit I had, i broke several drill bits and eventually used the dremel for that last bit. with care the housing is not damaged, other than what the original owner did trying to get it out. i have already installed the new tritium and will make a trip out to hardware store in a bit, but if you can try to measure tonight if you have time.

if i find one that works i will post here so you don't go to the trouble for nothing.

thanks so much for quick reply
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Old September 04, 2011, 04:17   #118
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On Saturday I replaced the worn out vials on both my newly acquired SUIT sight (thanks Dennis) and my SUSAT sight, both were relatively easy but the Susat wasn't as fiddly as there isn't a circlip but a locking allen screw.

I used the green tritium as opposed to the standard red and am impressed with the initial results.

Thanks for a good 'how to' I may not do a lot of low light shooting but it is good to have the option available :-)
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Old October 28, 2011, 20:25   #119
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On Saturday I replaced the worn out vials on both my newly acquired SUIT sight (thanks Dennis) and my SUSAT sight, both were relatively easy but the Susat wasn't as fiddly as there isn't a circlip but a locking allen screw.

I used the green tritium as opposed to the standard red and am impressed with the initial results.

Thanks for a good 'how to' I may not do a lot of low light shooting but it is good to have the option available :-)
Can you post or PM how to modify the SUSAT and what and where to get the part(s) needed?

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Old November 30, 2011, 15:41   #120
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Count me in on this project as well. I picked up a nearly-new SUIT sight at our local gun show a few weeks ago, and just today had the time to get the lamp holder out of the scope body. What a fight! I have a set of circlip pliers, but the tips were that much too thick for the clip, and the tips of my needle nose had rounded too much to stay in the holes. How did I succeed, you ask? I handed the unit to our chief gunsmith here and asked nicely-- he had it out in about ten minutes, and told me not to talk to him the rest of the day. Now to find a replacement tritium element. I saw B@rt's ad when I first got the scope, but CPF is down, so I guess I'll have to wait. (Unless any of you intrepid gentlemen happen to have a spare . . . I keed, I keed--) I will post again when I have more to post about-- Lee
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Old April 06, 2012, 19:14   #121
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Old June 07, 2012, 07:14   #123
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Suit Trilux Scope tritium

I've delt with B@RT on several occasions and he is awesome!
Fast shipment and excellent communication.
I'll try to also post the link.
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...hlight=Tritium
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Old November 09, 2012, 20:38   #124
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So what's the consensus for the absolute best size tritium vial to get?
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Old February 04, 2013, 15:04   #125
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I got the size Bart had available at the time, 1X5mm. I just lamped mine with red and yellow tubes. I used JB weld WaterWeld epoxy putty to set them. Also, I found harbor frieght sells an assortment of inside snap rings and they also sell the snap ring pliers.
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Old October 10, 2013, 16:58   #126
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Deffinitive Guide to SUIT Trilux Tritium Replacement?

So I just completed reanimating the Tritium of my early model L2A2 SUIT Scope and thought instead of making a new thread I'd add the info to this existing and excellent thread.




Firstly as has been said around here you'll need a pair of Internal/External Circlip pliers such as these:

http://www.harborfreight.com/interna...ers-60593.html

For those who have difficulty, I used the straight point tips and worked the plug up and out of the sight while keeping the clip firmly compressed. You should be able to raise the plug far enough out that the clip is free of it's race, and then it's easy to remove.

Next as mentioned in the first post, carefully scrape out the original putty. You don't have much room around the original vial so use something very fine and be patient.

Below are a series of images I took that I felt would help answer many repeat questions. Note the dimensions are in inches, so multiply them by 25.4 to get mm. My measurements were also not taken without the greatest of precision just as a warning.


Original Vial Length (7.73mm)


Original Vial Diameter (note I didn't scrape of the putty) (5.09mm)


Cap recess length (9.75mm)


Cap recess width (5.19mm)


Cap recess depth (5.53mm)

(Note: the ends and base of the recess are radiussed. Treat these values as conservative. Any Tritium vial equal too, or less than these should fit.)


Completed install. Portion covered to allow dimming by turning the knob.

I used qty(2) 2x8mm Red Vials from B@rt
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...-part-deux-bis

And I embedded them in Sugru as it's what I had laying around. I used a cotton tipped stick to push them into the sugru, and denaturated alcohol (metho ) for clean up. I used a little too much Sugru and couldn't bury the vials quite deep enough to get more than a thin covering which some light leaks through)

Here's the result with some ambient light


and in total darkness


It looks a little brighter, a little more orange, and sharper in real life of course.
These are the best I could manage to get from my iPhone 5.

Hope this helps someone!
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Excellent work - just one point, I find the green vials much better in terms of brightness.


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So I just completed reanimating the Tritium of my early model L2A2 SUIT Scope and thought instead of making a new thread I'd add the info to this existing and excellent thread.




Firstly as has been said around here you'll need a pair of Internal/External Circlip pliers such as these:

http://www.harborfreight.com/interna...ers-60593.html

For those who have difficulty, I used the straight point tips and worked the plug up and out of the sight while keeping the clip firmly compressed. You should be able to raise the plug far enough out that the clip is free of it's race, and then it's easy to remove.

Next as mentioned in the first post, carefully scrape out the original putty. You don't have much room around the original vial so use something very fine and be patient.

Below are a series of images I took that I felt would help answer many repeat questions. Note the dimensions are in inches, so multiply them by 25.4 to get mm. My measurements were also not taken without the greatest of precision just as a warning.


Original Vial Length (7.73mm)


Original Vial Diameter (note I didn't scrape of the putty) (5.09mm)


Cap recess length (9.75mm)


Cap recess width (5.19mm)


Cap recess depth (5.53mm)

(Note: the ends and base of the recess are radiussed. Treat these values as conservative. Any Tritium vial equal too, or less than these should fit.)


Completed install. Portion covered to allow dimming by turning the knob.

I used qty(2) 2x8mm Red Vials from B@rt
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...-part-deux-bis

And I embedded them in Sugru as it's what I had laying around. I used a cotton tipped stick to push them into the sugru, and denaturated alcohol (metho ) for clean up. I used a little too much Sugru and couldn't bury the vials quite deep enough to get more than a thin covering which some light leaks through)

Here's the result with some ambient light


and in total darkness


It looks a little brighter, a little more orange, and sharper in real life of course.
These are the best I could manage to get from my iPhone 5.

Hope this helps someone!
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Excellent work - just one point, I find the green vials much better in terms of brightness.
I'd agree.

I just wanted the red illumination as I'm trying to make my 1963 Aussie L1A1 as authentic as possible..... for a kit gun.

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Well she's a beauty! Post pics of the sight on the rifle - dying to see it!

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I'd agree.

I just wanted the red illumination as I'm trying to make my 1963 Aussie L1A1 as authentic as possible with a kit gun.
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Old October 16, 2013, 11:56   #130
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Does anyone have a source for original tritium holders? Or has anyone made a replacement thingy that can be reanimated?

My SUIT came with the battery-LED thing which is a piece of junk. I'd like to reanimate mine but I don't have an original tritium holder/adjustment knowb/doohickey.
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Does anyone have a source for original tritium holders? Or has anyone made a replacement thingy that can be reanimated?

My SUIT came with the battery-LED thing which is a piece of junk. I'd like to reanimate mine but I don't have an original tritium holder/adjustment knowb/doohickey.
Check with Mountain Man. I think he has made some in the past.
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Old October 30, 2013, 16:22   #132
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Here's where I got the vial I used in my Israeli SUIT:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290956706702...84.m1439.l2649

I ordered a single "Tritium-MAX" red vial. It lights up the sighting post tip enough to see in dim light conditions. Don't know how it compares to an original but I'm sure it will serve the purpose. Oh, and I used drywall mud compound to hold the vial in place. closest thing I could find to whatever was originally used.
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