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Old October 12, 2013, 19:03   #101
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Is that what they are saying these days, that plastic anti-static bags will protect against EMP?

Good luck with that one...

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They are a Mylar laminate Faraday Bags.


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Old October 13, 2013, 12:02   #102
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They are a Mylar laminate Faraday Bags.
Yes, I understand...

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Old October 13, 2013, 14:02   #103
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Candles, paper maps, compass, hammer, shovel, pick, axe, saw,water bucket, and iron sights.
Worked before will work again.
Funny, I have all of those.
Good thing rifle & pistol primers will still work too.

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Would something like a 12" square steel tubing with 1/4" wall (I actually have a good bit of this) welded closed at both ends suffice ?




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Old October 21, 2013, 10:30   #104
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Report: Massive Vulnerability Detected In National Power Grids: “There Is No Way to Stop This”

If you think that our multi-billion dollar electrical power grids are secure and capable of withstanding a coordinated attack, think again.

According to one group of engineers, the grid is so vulnerable that it wouldn’t even require a skilled hacker to compromise. In fact, when Adam Crain and Chris Sistrunk decided to test some new software they were developing they identified a vulnerability so serious that it could literally blind operational controllers to such an extent that they would be locked out of monitoring systems and unable to maintain grid integrity.

The consequences, according to the engineers who note they are in no way security specialists, could be a total downing of the national power grid with nodes across the nation being taken over all at once. Moreover, the same systems used to maintain the U.S. power grid are also being used in other industries, like water treatment facilities.

You’d think that such a vulnerability would be a top priority for the Department of Homeland Security, considering they are spending millions of dollars and promoting their coming Grid Ex exercise in November.

But you’d be wrong. The kicker is that when Crain and Sistrunk advised the DHS Industrial Control Systems Cyber Emergency Response Team, they got what essentially amounts to no response. It took Homeland Security a full four months before they even acknowledged the problem.


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Old October 22, 2013, 07:25   #105
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$ months eah? how bout four decades-- Face it guys, the rich have used public monies to build facilities for them that are emp protected, but Methinks homeland sec is intended to be for the wealthy only and there is a desire for most americans to perish in the comming "storms". then they can come back out and have it all--or so they think.
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2013-10-24 02:56 UTC Head On Eruption

Region 1877, very close to the Sun-Earth line, produced an R2 (Moderate) Radio Blackout at 0030 UTC on 24 October (8:30 p.m. EDT 23 October). There are indications of a Coronal Mass Ejection, forecasters are checking. Watch for updates of possible Geomagnetic Storm activity from this event. An earlier rash of CMEs from the past few days, none nearly as energetic as this one, may bring G1 (Minor) Geomagnetic Storming on October 25.

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Old November 01, 2013, 11:29   #107
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Old November 03, 2013, 20:40   #108
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Old November 12, 2013, 22:07   #109
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In the website below, click on the PDF file to see. These have been EMP tested to control arcing in homes. These will work in older homes, so no change in the wiring.

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Old November 13, 2013, 09:12   #110
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In the website below, click on the PDF file to see. These have been EMP tested to control arcing in homes. These will work in older homes, so no change in the wiring.

http://communities.leviton.com/docs/DOC-2684
Thank you for all the info and updates you have provided!
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Old November 13, 2013, 10:52   #111
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Does anybody have specifics on surge protectors for use where the service line comes into the main panel ? Seems quicker and ultimately easier/less expensive than individual surge protected outlets.
Problem with that. The conductors between the service panel and the outlets to be specific. They function as antennas and will render moot upstream clamping devices.

Even if the upstream 'end' is hard grounded, if the distal end is not you will have induced voltage from the impinging E and H fields from an EMP weapon.

The rise time of the pulse is what makes this issue so difficult to guard against. You may clamp the wiring enough to prevent a fire in the structure of the house. But if you are in the most intense areas of the strike, the cord you have plugged into an end device will suffice to fry its internal power supply. Even if the outlet is surge protected.
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Been watching the TV series "Revolution" on Netflix....good show.
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I thought Revolution had potential when it first started, but then it got crazy. They should have stuck with life after the blackout - Light's Out style story. Instead there's conspiracies, faulty physics, nanites, and each episode takes it farther afield. I haven't tuned in for any of the new fall episodes.
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Had some down time and started Revolution this afternoon. They lost me when it appeared that muskets were the only firearms that survived but makeup and designer clothes do just fine after TEOTWAWKI.
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In the website below, click on the PDF file to see. These have been EMP tested to control arcing in homes. These will work in older homes, so no change in the wiring.

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Do these need to be on every outlet or just one per circuit?
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Most surge or spike protector devices that I'm familiar with use MOV's(metal oxide varistor). Aside from the fact that they may be too slow acting to be completely effective, they are also widely considered a one time incident device. Given that there will be a series of surges/peaks from a EMP , I'm wondering just how effective the surge protectors will be.
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The surge protector I linked above should be installed on each branch in the home. Don't need one at each outlet. These have been EMP tested and are in use in a fortune 50 EMP proofed home. There is a new one coming out that just plugs in. They are doing tests now. Once I see the results I'll post it.
Just got back from DC. EMP meeting and the EMP Congressional cuacus. Seperate discussions on EMP vs geomagnetic storm recovery, status on the threat and actions being taken. I can say, it can make you puker! The probablity that it will happen is much higher than I thought. Briefed on transformer effects both prime and secondary transformers. Effect on the actual lines, railraod tracks (yes, railroad tracks), undersea cables and celluar systems. Today it takes 18 months to get a primary transformer. My team has been asked to look at the effects of the loss of key personnel on recovery times. First blush is very sobbering. GM storm or EMP burst will have effects simular to a 100s of multi-megatonage nuclear devices in terms on long term people losses and recovery, just no deaths due to fallout. However, the end result to society is the same.
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Sounds like something I'd like to read. But if he really wanted to get the word out, he would put it out on Kindle at $10 instead a $50 paperback.
A damn good read: "One Second After."
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Old November 24, 2013, 11:32   #119
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C2A1 THANK YOU
sharing this intel with us, is of major benifit for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

please keep us updated as to those plug in, leg protector / circut breakers.
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A series of CMEs will begin in about 6 weeks as the sunspots migrate to the solar equator and reverse polarity.
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Something in one of the posts above caused a question to form in my mind. Is it possible that an event of this type could cause ammo and or the components to heat up and cook off or otherwise be rendered useless? Also, could a standard magnetic compass be affected negatively?
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Ammo will be fine but yes, the compass will go nuts during a geomagnetic storm.
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I would sugest that anyone who still does blasting on their property put their caps into a shielded bag, then a steel can, as I would think an electrial discharge might be enough to trigger them.---not good

When I moved here , you could go to the hardware store and buy caps and good old reddevil stick dynomite- not the torvex used these days.
Just had to sign the book- great for stump removal--
damn false flags done screwed up a country gal's fun, as now days you have to jump though a zillion hoops--
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What about Water well Protection, gen set too?

Is there any way to protect the pump down at 600ft? Also protection of the aux Gen set to power the well in emergency ? Thanks.
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Is there any way to protect the pump down at 600ft? Also protection of the aux Gen set to power the well in emergency ? Thanks.
If the pump wires were disconnected from the power source and the wellhead capped with something that'd shield it from the EMP, then the pump should be safe.

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I'll check on the down hole situation as I have an interest in that. Remember that in a geomagnetic storm the current is moving thru the earth's surface. We were briefed that in that case that pipes in a city would amplify the overal effects. I have my thoughts but I'll ask.
There was a two day meeting in DC called Infoguard. Many EMP guys there. Director of Electrical Infrasturture Security had a telecom with some of us. Turns out new vehicles will not survive. The frequencies in the 250km burst will get the chips. It overwhelms the lightening protection designs. The call was less about the vehicles but what can be done about it as they have the data and are looking for solutions. Long story short, not much without totally redesigning the vehicles. EPA and electronic fuel injection got them ( I can tell a good story about EPA and FEMA). Unintended consequences all the way!
Was taken over to FEMA national control center ( 3 of us by invite only). Asked for the FEMA EMP plan. Zip! They have none. Asked for a sit rep for various sernarios. Wow, folks here have a better plans. Not to say I didn't hear other currents in the water so to speak.
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OK ,so would haveing a "back-up brain", coil and fuses, stashed in a emp protected container allow one to repair, or will the current burn the wires, meaning a whole new harness will be needed?
I am assuming tests were done on cars and trucks, given you have some results on the chips failing.
Did they share what happend to fuses and under 14ga wire?

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Down hole pumps should be OK during a geomagnetic event. EMP one should have the pump disconnected or if you are using it at the top of the pipe have an isolation transformer. Have a spare transformer as the transformer will burn out and protect your pump.
Didn't get into details but I will be with the guys in January. However, given the 1980 tests, the wiring harnesses did OK as most harness have a ground wire and they are not so long that they have insulation arching. In the new vehicles with high density chips the chip leads are long enough to collect enough energy to cause shorts in the semiconductor layers. The situation is complicated by the new designs which relie on each other ( fuel injector to O2 sensor to spark control, blah, blah blah). I'm no expert on new vehicles, too many and too complicated so I figure they are desposible. I myself have recently picked up a 1970 dodge truck, running for $800.00 with a manual and big block. The cost to fix it up was about 1/3 the cost of a new vehicle ( front to back, new engine, trannie, suspension, brakes, wiring, AT tires and wheels, custom fuel tanks and in bed tool box, etc.). Got rearended by a new Ford truck, he was towed away with the radiator wrapped around the engine. I had a broken tail light and scatched paint.
OK so where I'm I going with this. The cost to have the parts ready and the time to fix a newer vehicle, with questionable results, may be more than having an older vehicle ready.
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Thank you Sir. I'll have to get a couple IT's and I have spare wire and start boxes.

OHC, don't you have an old rig or two?

None of my rigs are new but would trust any one of them to go anywhere on the continent.

Have an old 1 ton 4X4 tow truck, good to drag in work so to speak, with spare electrics out the kazoo.
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Yea, I do-78 f150 is our farm truck-BUT its got an eltronic ignition module, not points, Now the 58 ford--its good to go.
I have a older-early fifties 4x4 ,military drivetrain and frame, gruman forest service "panel van", that was given to me yrs ago. chevy engine. It needs restoring. the plan was to have it ready by now, but the barn it was to be rehabed in is not built yet-ten yrs of having a pretty usless man around here set me WAY back [semi-good sex only gooes soooo far]

I had ask my question concerning the f150 and its ignition box. Prolly just pick up a couple of back-ups and stash properly.

How bout the big batteries, as in truck / car - does the surge blow/burn them out?

guess having one without the acid or electrolytes in it yet, and stored with protection would be the best.
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The tests that were run on the late 70-early 80s vehicles were run with the vehicles off, running and on a dyno at 30 mph. Ford and GM durning the test emmitted black smoke from the tailpipe as the pulse interfered with ignition signals. The Chyslers died because they used a lean burn system with a computer monitoring A/F mixtures. The scambled signal killed the ignition. Once disconnected from the battery and replugged in, they would run but not like new. So your Ford should be OK, just keep a spare ignition module put away just in case. Same with other vehicles of that era. Basiclly as long as you have a carburated vehicle spare electronics will get you going. When they went to fuel injection, well, downhill.
The batteries do just fine. The surge heats them but they can handle it. They held up with 50KV pulses.
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This is exciting.

I can't wait for the end of this slow motion train wreck.

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Just talked to the guy protecting that get away for a fortune 500 family about wells. Details as follows:
You lower a welded pipe with a diameter wide enough to place the pump and put it below the water table. Leave enough space to beable to pull and service the pump. Weld a metallic grate (1 inch grid spacing) on the botom of the pipe and you need to have a metallic top cover that has an Rf gasket or you solder the top in place. It is best if you install a surge protector and line filter down hole on the power lines. You may want to have an isolation transformer on the surface line to further protect the system ( have a replace available).
You can weld the top cover but that may be a pain when repairs need to be made. He said you can make a top cover with a built in heater to melt the solder. Groove the cap and lay in solder. Heat it to seal the pipe. If you need to get in, plug into a car battery and reheat and open the well. Clean the grooves and lay in a solder wire and heat to reseal.
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Map: Areas Of Probable Power System Collapse: “130 Million Lacking Power For Several Years”

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This thread is GREAT-thank you all

Another pump question-
I use a submersible that is mounted horozontal in the bottom of a six hundred gallon res, fed by my spring. The riser out of the water is 1 1/4" non conductive pcv, though there is a brass valve inline above the water or earth [should that valve get grounded or insulated -or both?] . The electrical line seems to be the weak link, in my thinking.
SO would a Isolation transformer on the feed protect the pump, given its under four ft of water and has about three ft on each side? I thought the water would insulate the components from the pulse.
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I think the major weak link is the power line. Is the res natural or PVC or metal? How dep. The coupling decreases with dept. The brass valve itself is probably not much of a colecting antennea so that is OK. The issue is the pump sheilded? From the power line and from the wave itself. Water helps but is no sure thing. I'll be chatting with the AF test director and lay out the situation and see what he says.
We have been asked to look at recovery times and may get a contract to look into it deeper. Part of the effort is too pick a rural area and see what could be done to keep it up and running. Urban areas are a right off. The issues I see at this point is you can maybe get some rural areas to make tru a year or two but with the lose of some many people ( actually not a large number) with critical knowlege that it may take literally two generations to begin recovery. If you read the ancient engineers you see that knowlege loss has occured several times in human history with the resulting generational misery.
In the last meeting, there was a general discussion ranking diasters that have a high probably of occuring in the next 10 years. It was felt that a geomagnetic/EMP event would be worse than a nuclear war because these events would be all encompressing and too many people would be alive to wreak havoc. Basicly you need survival skills but you need technical skills to recover and these two things are not mutally exclusive ( if you're patroling for raiders you're not reading (and understanding) how to get the chemical plant running to make fuel.) Basicly you may survive but your quality of life will never improve.
As I sit in these meetings, I think of Lucifer's Hammer ( I'm sure I'm the only one in the room that has read it). Who do you let in? As part of this rural recovery study, part of it is to create a list and procedure to obtain critical knowlegel sources over time that fits your resource capabilities. I today's world of specialization, this is tough. Some folks will be unbelievably vaiuable (Dan Forrester).
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I think the there should be secure depots set-up to store critical information necessary to restart civilization. This should be printed on acid-free paper and stored in air-tight/water-tight containers. They should be scattered across the country and several in each major city. Now, this stuff does not need to be how to run a computer or even how to build a TV. More like a 1950 or 1960 level of technology. How to make gasoline, how to make electricity used to power percision tooling, how to build a internal combustion engines. Even how to build a first generation computer. Also, lost knowledge such as growing crops, raising live stock, basic blacksmithing the list going on and on. They would be information Arks. If you have a base line of knowledge recovery would be a great deal faster. I realize that we a talking generations, but it will still be better than starting at a post Civil War level of technology. I realize this sounds like plot for a bad Sci-Fi story, but think how far along our technology would be if the knowledge of the ancient Roman empire or the library at Alexandra had survived. The cost would be pennys for the information and the up keep would be next to nothing considering that the basic information never changes. If an EMP hit's the only information we have will be in hardend bunkers and on the shelfs of librarys and my guess nether will survive for the long term
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Some of this was done by the Air Force back in the 1980s. There were libraries set up in remote areas which would survive a nuclear attack. How much of this is left, I will be finding out but much has been gutted. Unfortunately, most paper libraries that are left will be burned for fuel. This has happen many times before. The real issue, I think is to have enough people that can actually undrstand and apply the info they do have or know enough to seek out what is needed. Jules Verne's book Mysterious Island talks about starting a civilization. In 1900, education tended to produce "well rounded" individuals. I get to talk with younger scientists and engineers and it is amazing what they don't know ( buisness and similuar majors are clueless in general. Not all but most). When we hire, their final test is to BOTEC a problem ( should we do this? Does this make sense?) we give them on the white board. There is no right answer. We are looking for the logic to solve the problem based on what they have in their head.
The problem is after an EMP strike a lot of the people you will need will be lost to the mobs (1952 War of the Worlds) and very few will make it to rural areas. And even then, will those people understand the value of these people. One of the people I deal with is involved in the human Genome project. What has been found is interesting requarding risk taking, types of thought processes etc. Certain traits combined with knowlegle and hands on experience will be priceless.
In a way the issue has been hit upon before. War of the World, Time Machine up to the Book of Eli have hinted at the issue. I think the Rand corporation had some studies back in the 60s. However, I'm finding it harder to discuss this today, because this feel good idea blinds people to think critically. You have to becareful how you ask or phase things, because you are a "prepper" and even educated folks then judge you and your qbjectives. I am sure what we come up with will never be released to the public in any official form.
I am trying to get released a report on the socitial impact of an EMP attack. It is a higher level discussion but provides offical thoughts on the matter and why officals find it so distatseful to discuss.
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I fear that the "Great Thinkers" that run the program have failed to heed the lessons of history. If that is the case, I predict that 2 old dirty farmers in coveralls will have more value that a platoon of engineers and PHD's. In other words "Nothing New under the Sun". On a side note, as a student of the cold war, I was not aware the the USAF had an information storage program in case "Some one pushed the Button". If there is any open source info on the program, could you please point me to it. The little dark corners of history I find the most fasinating and as Mark Twain once said " History don't repeat itself, it rhymes".
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Just talked to the guy protecting that get away for a fortune 500 family about wells. Details as follows:
You lower a welded pipe with a diameter wide enough to place the pump and put it below the water table. Leave enough space to beable to pull and service the pump. Weld a metallic grate (1 inch grid spacing) on the botom of the pipe and you need to have a metallic top cover that has an Rf gasket or you solder the top in place. It is best if you install a surge protector and line filter down hole on the power lines. You may want to have an isolation transformer on the surface line to further protect the system ( have a replace available).
You can weld the top cover but that may be a pain when repairs need to be made. He said you can make a top cover with a built in heater to melt the solder. Groove the cap and lay in solder. Heat it to seal the pipe. If you need to get in, plug into a car battery and reheat and open the well. Clean the grooves and lay in a solder wire and heat to reseal.
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I fear that the "Great Thinkers" that run the program have failed to heed the lessons of history. If that is the case, I predict that 2 old dirty farmers in coveralls will have more value that a platoon of engineers and PHD's. In other words "Nothing New under the Sun". On a side note, as a student of the cold war, I was not aware the the USAF had an information storage program in case "Some one pushed the Button". If there is any open source info on the program, could you please point me to it. The little dark corners of history I find the most fasinating and as Mark Twain once said " History don't repeat itself, it rhymes".
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Your statement about the value of farmers being more valuable is spot on. We have fooled ourselves into believing that those who actual produce something for a living are less valuable than those that don't. Be well, nyquil
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Most surge or spike protector devices that I'm familiar with use MOV's(metal oxide varistor). Aside from the fact that they may be too slow acting to be completely effective, they are also widely considered a one time incident device. Given that there will be a series of surges/peaks from a EMP , I'm wondering just how effective the surge protectors will be.
Yes, MOV's are one-time. If they catch it fast enough to stop anything from happening, good. If they catch it later and stop it from happening more, good. Your question seems to be (and mine after thinking about it) is what would happen in the prolonged (5 minute) event, or subsequent events. Would the open MOV protect the circuit or would the rest of the circuit still be susceptible to damage?

Here is a picture of an MOV in a common household appliance built by a major manufacturer. I worked in their electronic development lab and we routinely shocked and irradiated appliances for failure mode analysis. This MOV was hit with 500 VAC 60 Hz and responded as advertised and stopped any further damage to the appliance. The MOV is the burnt object on the left side of the picture, above the relays and below the "can" capacitors.



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This MOV was hit with 500 VAC 60 Hz and responded as advertised and stopped any further damage to the appliance.
So tell me how this benefits the appliance user. Preventing further damage... would that include starting a fire or other hazard? As a user, if a part that is on a circuit board blows out like that, I am not likely to be able to get a replacement and install it, and probably don't know how to bypass it if that is even possible. So to me, fry the MOV or fry the whole caboodle, either way it is useless to me.
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So tell me how this benefits the appliance user. Preventing further damage... would that include starting a fire or other hazard? As a user, if a part that is on a circuit board blows out like that, I am not likely to be able to get a replacement and install it, and probably don't know how to bypass it if that is even possible. So to me, fry the MOV or fry the whole caboodle, either way it is useless to me.

Yes, the MOV blowing prevents further damage to the appliance like fire, which could burn your house down. Kind of a worthwhile benefit, no? You could try to sue if that happened to you. This mfg'er could come back and say, "Nope, our appliance didn't start the fire." Because what you don't see was that there was a piece of cheesecloth over the board that CANNOT catch fire or the appliance fails the test.

Do you repair much of your own stuff? There are sites all over the web that sell appliance parts. I have purchased boards for my RV refrigerator online. I buy auto parts online. Heck, I've been known to buy food online, too! In a real emp situation, fixing your appliance prolly wouldn't be the first thing on your list, but that protection is very valuable to you now.
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Yes, the MOV blowing prevents further damage to the appliance like fire, which could burn your house down. Kind of a worthwhile benefit, no? You could try to sue if that happened to you. This mfg'er could come back and say, "Nope, our appliance didn't start the fire." Because what you don't see was that there was a piece of cheesecloth over the board that CANNOT catch fire or the appliance fails the test.

Do you repair much of your own stuff? There are sites all over the web that sell appliance parts. I have purchased boards for my RV refrigerator online. I buy auto parts online. Heck, I've been known to buy food online, too! In a real emp situation, fixing your appliance prolly wouldn't be the first thing on your list, but that protection is very valuable to you now.
Preventing a fire was the only logical reason I could come up with.

As for fixing stuff, there isn't much I won't attempt to fix. However, with electronics, I would be replacing an entire board, not individual components. I find electronics soldering more than a little aggravating. Add to that more and more electronics are manufactured to be disposable, sealed, board glued in place, or otherwise not appreciably repairable. Some of the purpose boards are either impossible to find, or more expensive than buying a whole new unit.

All that aside, from the point of view of prepping, there aren't many situations that I would be prepping for where the internet is still in service for me to search out a new board from a distributor in China to fix the widget I need. Certainly if my appliance smokes out from an EMP, I will likely be on my own in the fixit department. So it really is of little matter for a single small component to fry as opposed to the whole circuit board.
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Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP): The Clock Is Ticking
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Any American who has a cell phone—or who just wants to be able to flip on a light in the morning—should be concerned about our nation’s preparedness in the face of an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack. In fact, while it may sound like a term from a high school physics textbook, an EMP in action could result in the death of thousands of people.
An EMP, which is a high-intensity burst of electromagnetic energy caused by the rapid acceleration of charged particles, can be produced by intense solar storms or by a nuclear weapon detonated high in the atmosphere. When such a solar storm occurred in 1859, operators of the telegraph—the first widespread electrical device—were “shocked unconscious, and machines caught on fire.” Imagine the repercussions of such an event today, when virtually everything we own relies directly or indirectly on the power grid.
This past week, Jeanine Pirro of Fox News broadcasted a segment on the gravity of this issue and the lack of action taken by Congress to better prepare and defend our nation against such an attack.
In fact, the current Administration has harmed our nation’s ability to counter such an attack by reducing our nation’s missile defense, one of our only defenses against an EMP attack. In fiscal years 2010 and 2011 and in the START Treaty with Russia, the Obama Administration substantially cut missile defense programs and limited the defense system’s capabilities.
While some may view an EMP attack as something out of a sci-fi novel and those who caution against it as reactionary nuts, keep in mind that such an event has already happened. Our nation’s enemies, such as North Korea, have the capability to launch such an attack on the United States. Additionally, even if one believes that our enemies lack the resolve to carry out such an assault, a solar flare, like the one that occurred in 1859, occurs approximately every 150 years.
EMPs require the immediate attention of Congress and the Obama Administration. Our nation must not remain defenseless in the face of this inevitable—and potentially devastating—event.
The clock is ticking.
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Here is the audio link to the EMP hearing in Maine

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http://www.maine.gov/legis/audio/Utilities_cmte.html
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Yea, I do-78 f150 is our farm truck-BUT its got an eltronic ignition module, not points, Now the 58 ford--its good to go.
I have a older-early fifties 4x4 ,military drivetrain and frame, gruman forest service "panel van", that was given to me yrs ago. chevy engine. It needs restoring. the plan was to have it ready by now, but the barn it was to be rehabed in is not built yet-ten yrs of having a pretty usless man around here set me WAY back [semi-good sex only gooes soooo far]

I had ask my question concerning the f150 and its ignition box. Prolly just pick up a couple of back-ups and stash properly.

How bout the big batteries, as in truck / car - does the surge blow/burn them out?

guess having one without the acid or electrolytes in it yet, and stored with protection would be the best.
1978 vintage, is it a 302 ci engine? I think those came with either a 302 or the 460? If it's a 302 an earlier points type distributor will fit in that engine and work.
460 & the 429 Lima engines also share common block & heads and an earlier points distributor will fit both of those also.
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Batteries do fine. Just have a spare control module in a protected baggie. That's what I am doing for my 1974 Trailduster. I am putting togather my 1070 Dodge truck which has points but it does have an electronic volyage regulator which I will have to have a protected spare.
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Well, as you can imagine with the wall street juornal article and the release of more information on the San Jose incicdent this weeks meetings were interesting. Your kind of left with the "holy chit, batman" feeling.
I will try and post some links later but some of the key points were:
1.) New anaylsis put the US population loss at 90% within one year ( the presenter said it will be a cross between world war Z and mad max. Gave time lines for events based on current resources).
2.) Only one military base will have any significant power capability after 30 days.
3.) Navy ships will have power but control systems may be comparmized.
4.) There are only 2 rail cars which can transport the big transformers in the US.
5.) Power lines themselves will burn and come down (mainly at the poles). Note forest fires for those in the west.
6.) Off line the Geneva treaty with Iran was refered to as the Chamberlin treaty. ( we were briefed on Meetings inside the Iranian govt., Not good for us. In the public domain, there is one quote about that Iran has the capability that a flash the great satan will devour itself from within).
7.) Russia has provided enhanced EMP designs to Korea.
8.) Interesting things going on with Venezuela (scud in a tub)
Will post more later.
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Again -thanks for the breifing .
I suspect that there are those in high reaches of our gov that are facilitating the comming disaster. In the senerio discussed here- the only thing that really matters is LOCAL.
given the chamberlin treaty, and barry's treasonus war on whites, seems we're on borrowed time-
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