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Old October 03, 2017, 20:18   #1
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PAUL RYAN: GUN SILENCER BILL IS OFFICIALLY DEAD

PAUL RYAN: GUN SILENCER BILL IS OFFICIALLY DEAD

For those hunters looking for a little more length to their leash, Paul Ryan says ‘nay.’ The gun silencer bill, which was scheduled to be voted on later this week, is now dead.

The NRA and GOP-backed bill would ease up on restrictions on silencers, but the shooting in Las Vegas has ground its progress to a screeching halt. At first, it appeared that the House was not going to delay the vote on this bill, but Paul Ryan says otherwise. The bill has been shelved.

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Old October 03, 2017, 21:40   #2
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I am no Ryan fan, but the bill would have lost due to recent circumstances.
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Blowing with the wind of current events, media, polling and optics...as usual.

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"They" will do what they will do and "we" will also.

Separate but equal and non-compliant.

Us and them are completely different animals, but still subject to that damnable old human condition.
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I think I'm finally gonna break down and buy a can. It's legal to hunt with where I am so it would be used mostly for 30 cal stuff. 3006, 308. Also something that could be attached to a 7.62 x 39 ar and a .223 ar. Any suggestions?
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Like I said, this event was right on cue, just like most of them are. Amazing coincidences.
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We're gonna be lucky if there isn't an outright ban on all semi autos
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Will not happen.
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I had someone tell me the same about the Brady Bill, back in the day.

It's a matter of time. Politicians have to "do something, even if it's wrong, but DO something!"
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I had someone tell me the same about the Brady Bill, back in the day.

It's a matter of time. Politicians have to "do something, even if it's wrong, but DO something!"
We live in the era of "modern sporting rifles" which was not the case during the eras of past legislation.

Best selling, most popular firearm, arguably of all time, and owned by many millions of regular Americans...men, women and children.

Semi auto operation is one of, if not the most common method of firearm operation.

To ban all semi automatic firearms might be a leftists pipe dream but they are smoking hopium, imho.
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We live in the era of "modern sporting rifles" which was not the case during the eras of past legislation.

Best selling, most popular firearm, arguably of all time, and owned by many millions of regular Americans...men, women and children.

Semi auto operation is one of, if not the most common method of firearm operation.

To ban all semi automatic firearms might be a leftists pipe dream but they are smoking hopium, imho.
You are not wrong, but I stand by my assessment.

Sooner or later, there will be a semi successful attempt at a ban of some sort, the numbers of owners are irrelevant.
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I hope you're right about living in the era of 'modern sporting rifle'.
But if you talk to anyone, they've never heard of it. If you say 'assault rifle', now they know it's an AR

People I work with always say the same thing after a shooting 'Politicians will do something to placate the anti-gun crowd'. Most people will willing give up ARs as a sacrificial lamb.

Average people, hunters included, really don't know much about firearms.
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I think I'm finally gonna break down and buy a can. It's legal to hunt with where I am so it would be used mostly for 30 cal stuff. 3006, 308. Also something that could be attached to a 7.62 x 39 ar and a .223 ar. Any suggestions?
Depends on what you want to do. Cap Arms makes a nice Ti can for right at $600 that will do up to a .300WM. I bought one for my .300WM but I use it on 6.8, .308 and .223 with very pleasing results. Just don't bump fire the shit out of it or you'll cook it. That's the 10", 18oz model but they also have a 6", 11oz model that will do .308 and lesser calibers with ease for $529. They mount via muzzle break or non MB adapters and they work really well. In the interests of full disclosure, I am a dealer for them but unless you order it through me for sale in NM, I make no money from them.
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There are plenty of other great cans out there and I would visit Silencer Shop for reviews etc. Alternatively, go to Silencer Talk forums and be prepared to drink from the fire hose of information...
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I hope you're right about living in the era of 'modern sporting rifle'.
But if you talk to anyone, they've never heard of it. If you say 'assault rifle', now they know it's an AR

People I work with always say the same thing after a shooting 'Politicians will do something to placate the anti-gun crowd'. Most people will willing give up ARs as a sacrificial lamb.

Average people, hunters included, really don't know much about firearms.
MSR = AR15 = MSR and nice to see they are pert near ubiquitous, nationwide, at this late date.

There will always be someone willing to submit but people I know who are into AR's and similar arms are as yet unwilling to surrender them. Could this change? Of course, but there would be literal hell to pay!

I don't think the leftist dream of disarmament is possible without burning all of it (and us) to the ground.
Additionally, the job is too immense, complex, expensive and dangerous to be accomplished by dot gov and dot mil.

Short of N, B, C warfare or natural extinction level events, the MSR era will continue to expand...that is my prediction and desire.

I also hear much more direct and open talk regarding the true purpose of the 2nd Amendment and believe many are loathe to lose that right and power. This, whether they know the acronym MSR or not.
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Apologies if anyone is miffed I'm bringing arfcom to the files with all this talk of MSR, etc.
In continuation of my assertion that semi-autos will not be made verboten.
Suppressed, or not...America's Rifle is too big to fail, imho.

I have enjoyed many types of firearms in my lifetime, so far, but based on ownership numbers alone AR (aye are) stands for America's Rifle.
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He and McStain, amongst others, are both wishing she had.
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They are both dems.....
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AAC 762SDN or AAC 762SDN-6 are multicaliber quick change cans rated up to 308/7.62×51. I own a passel of them and have a friend that uses a 762SDN on his 30-06 but I would use one of my bigger cans for '06. What I have discovered with the AAC 762 design is if spin it on a 5.56, 6.5 or 6.8 do not have to change gas settings to keep back pressure down. Seems to let just enough pressure to escape with subcaliber bullets the pressure curve stays relatively low. Now when I spin either the 762SDN or 762SDN-6 on my FAL's or M1a's if do not turn the gas down then brass comes out violently, has a tendency to spit gas back at you and bends rims on cases. With the M1A a Sbuster gas plug and turning gas down is enough. If I turn the gas down as far as possibe on my FAL's it stops bending rims and is tolerable.

Some of my other cans on an FAL require a modified gas plug per Stimpsonjcat's design. He does help people with FAL suppressor plugs on ocassion and a search of the site will yield how to modify a gas plug. As little as I run a suppressor with full power ammo in my FAL's as look odd with the AAC 51T Ratchet Mount suppressor adapter I just crank down the gas best I can when spin the can on. The 16" short gas system with AAC 762SDN-6 next to bed has gas turned up so cycles with the 220 grain frangible subsonics. The subs create less pressure thus need more gas.

My AR 15's in 5.56, 22 Nosler and 6.8 require no gas adjustment. Spin it on and run. Discovered my 9mm Osprey can does the same on a 300 B.O. AR, thread on and run it. Have a Hybrid, Ti-Rant and more. Have some dedicated 5.56 cans that require adjustible gas to tune to some loads. More I use multicaliber cans more I prefer them though not as quiet. Difference between the AAC 762SDN and AAC 762SDN-6 is length. The 762SDN-6 is shorter, the 762SDN is longer but tad quieter and cheaper. Few cans are movie quiet except some rimfire units with subsonic. Cenferfire, especially with supersonic ammo are still loud but not near as loud. Everyone should have a can or three. Your bedside rifle and pistol should have one just in case have to snatch and go to work in your skivies. If no time to get pants on probably don't have time for ear protection. In a tactical situation (even training) not busting your ear drums with every shot gives a tactical advantage plus reduces muzzle flash and harder for opponent to figure out where you are.

Tomorrow have to take wife to small specialty hospital in Atlanta. Will be a suppressed 5.56 under back seat in lock and suppressed SIG 2022 9mm with 147 grain subs in case have to fight our way in or out of the metro area or surgical ward.
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Yeah, because the both carry the wrong party's membership card.

They are both dems.....
The Republicans have gone all out to show their true colors over the last few months. If you think either party cares about your best interests, I got a bridge to sell ya.
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Apologies if anyone is miffed I'm bringing arfcom to the files with all this talk of MSR, etc.
In continuation of my assertion that semi-autos will not be made verboten.
Suppressed, or not...America's Rifle is too big to fail, imho.

I have enjoyed many types of firearms in my lifetime, so far, but based on ownership numbers alone AR (aye are) stands for America's Rifle.
I don't know anything about Facekook, but a group exists even in that environment.





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The Republicans have gone all out to show their true colors over the last few months. If you think either party cares about your best interests, I got a bridge to sell ya.
For us gun owners, it does not matter anymore if it is Repubs or Dems out there.

All that matters is if they are pro-gun or anti-gun.
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Someone who can actually think. He pulled the Bill because it would have failed.

Better to do that then reintroduce it some time next year.

BTW Ryan owns Guns and is a Hunter.
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All that matters is if they are pro-gun or anti-gun.
It matters to me because 99% of Democrats are anti-Gun. The only support we get in congress comes from the Republican party.

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Sounds and acts like a Fudd to me. He'll sleep tight after selling us out.
The Sellouts are people like your two RINO AZ Senators that call themselves Republicans!

Like I said before I am not a fan Of Paul Ryan, I support President Trump. As a Conservative we have to know when to pick our fights, this is not the time and Ryan knows that. If you/others what to bloviate about it go ahead it won't change a thing.
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Someone who can actually think. He pulled the Bill because it would have failed.

Better to do that then reintroduce it some time next year.

BTW Ryan owns Guns and is a Hunter.
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Probably a few hunting shotguns and a deer rifle.......
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It matters to me because 99% of Democrats are anti-Gun. The only support we get in congress comes from the Republican party.

Yes I also Hate RINOS!
Not really
Quick example is Hedi Heidkamp from North Dakota. She's more Conservative than John McCain. Go full retard Liberal in ND you are a one term loser.
there are a bunch in the Congressional Democrats representing more rural districts this way. Figure maybe 15% of the Congressional Dems are more pro RKBA than McCainiac.

Yeah Ryan owns gunz and huntz
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Cabelas where they until lately sold tonz of Slidefires.
Yeah Ryan's Lyin'
He was personally exposed to the damn stocks and other gimmicks Cabela's stocked in their outlets in WI and MN.

Pretty sure Ryan owns at least one AR. Few years back a Cabelas gun clerk shared pix of him doing a 4473 on some AR thing. They were getting flashed around up here at shows. There was quite a stack of PMags on the counter too. Allegedly he bought a few cases of 5.56 at the time.
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I don't have a problem with the stamp. Its the 8 months to a year of waiting for the gov to do its job and approve it. Even if are dreams had come true and the bill past you would still most likely have had to feel out a 4473 type form when you bought one.
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