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Rotor
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SARCO BM59 Type E Garand kit comes to life

I bought this from KOAM who had commissioned this build from James at CMP Armory and was looking to sell. It was built with one of the Kits Sarco is advertising as a BM 59 kit. Their ad states that it is complete minus receiver and they offer “drawings” to describe the receiver modifications. The Sarco kits have all the indications of being BM 59 E (or BM 59 SL). That is to say they were surplus USGI Garands modified to select fire and to use BM 59 magazines. The gas system is unchanged from the Garand. The Overall length is ½” shorter owing to the caliber conversion to 7.62 NATO by chopping off the breach and reaming a new chamber. Consequently the stock, rear handguard, barrel and op rod have to be a ½” shorter too.



I have seen this ad in there for years and had never seen or heard of anyone who had done the conversion until now. James at CMP Armory said he has done a few. I remember reading here and there that some of these parts may be left over from old projects by Fed Ord/Sante Fe and Golden State. Other posters mentioned that these kits come from Type E conversions done by Beretta for the Argentine navy. I’m not sure what parts of that jazz are true or not. What is true is that these are very cool rifles.
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I have had a chance to run about 200 rounds through this rifle it and I have to say it runs great and is my current favorite to shoot. The barrel that came with this kit gauges 1 at the muzzle 3 at the throat. It shoots 1 MOA with no problem. The BM59 bolt that came with it did not headspace so this is running with a PB Garand bolt. It takes a little nudge to drop the bolt on the first round but feeds and cycles fine under power. This is probably due to the Garand bolt running in it instead of a BM59 modd’ed one.


Here you can see the biggest changes in the modifications to the Garand receiver. In this case the receiver legs have to be drastically reshaped not only on the inside to allow the mag to pass but too lock into the stock as that relationship is changed from the Garands.

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Here are some shots showing the differences in the inside of the stock.
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Here compared to a USGI postwar birch
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The receiver has been modified to have the BM59 bolt catch hold the bolt back after the last round is fired.

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The barrels are similar to but not identical to the Italian 7.62 conversions that Sarco also sells in that they are ½ inch shorter that a 30-06 barrel. The difference is that the Type E/BM 59 barrels have some contour added in the form of a ramp to ease the op rod along the barrel shoulder. The op rod in the type E kit is the same length as the Italian 7.62 conversion op rod. I tested and they are in fact interchangeable.
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Anyone know what make of barrel this is??
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The brake has 8 ports on the left and 16 ports on the right. I presume this was to control muzzle rise to the right in auto fire. The stubby little breal works very well in semi auto and there is very little muzzle rise at all.
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Thanks KOAM. I love this thing.

JR



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K.O.A.M.
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Not a problem. Enjoy it. I'm glad you were able to find the compensator.


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The BM59 gas plug in this kit came from a Beretta Garand of mine. Nice looking rifle!


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Wow.
M-14/M1A is definitely cheaper!

The BM-59 modifications to the Garand receiver mean a lot of precison grinding. Machining away ribs on a heat treated receiver is no fun at all.

I'll bet that one cost at least $1,500 in machine shop costs, and likely much more.



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what is the depth of that internal cut? That is where you will find teh killer. Good TiALN coated solid cabide will attach welded material. might have to spot anneal, but not by that much.


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Rotor, if you don't mind me asking, what did that cost you?

$X for the kit, $X for the build, $X for the donor garand... etc?

Thanks

-myers


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That thing is very nice. Thank you for posting that.


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Originally posted by FAL GRUNT
Rotor, if you don't mind me asking, what did that cost you?

$X for the kit, $X for the build, $X for the donor garand... etc?

Thanks

-myers



I paid $500 for the kit, $300 for the receiver and $400 for the build, IIRC.



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My rifle is almost exactly like yours. My barrel is marked the same as yours except for the year. Mine is dated 1968. As to the manufacturer, if yours is like mine, it is marked PB(Pietro Beretta)and a drawing number under the rear handguard. Great pics! Thanks!!


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Very nice machine work on that receiver.
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Excellent work! Certainly worth the $400!

Awesome gun for the price. Unique, strangely beautiful, and accurate too!

-myers


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