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Old July 18, 2018, 14:15   #51
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BTW, motivation alone is normally not enough to justify behavior. We in the civilized world are expected to control our impulses and temper our motivations with a bit of reason, it's how we get along with each other as imperfectly as it may be. ......

There are two things that clearly differentiate the human species from animals.
One, we use cutlery.
Two, we're capable of controlling our sexual urges.






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Old July 18, 2018, 14:42   #52
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They were eliminating their government and our presence simultaneously. It wasn't clean, it wasn't according to our standards.

I have no idea why you think we'd go along with breaking diplomatic ties - we supplied the muscle for the Shah to keep those cats underfoot for decades. We would simply peacefully step back .....yeah right.

And I've been accused of being na´ve and foolish, lol.

I don't know why it's so difficult for folks to look at history and admit, "yeah, that was a mistake" - men run governments, and men do bad stuff sometimes. Some of that has long-lasting bad bad consequences.
Well for starters we woudn't have much choice. You can't have diplomatic relations with a nation that doesn't want to have 'em with you. North Korea for example. Japan and Germany during WWII. We've expelled diplomats before and had ours tossed out too, it's part of how the world works. Do you really know of any time when we were told by the local government to close our embassy and we didn't do it?

And they ain't our standards, they're the world's standards and these were largely in place before there ever was a US. As to saying 'yeah, that was a mistake shouldn't have done that', well that's a different conversation and the list of shit that folks shouln't have done is long, two sided and goes back to how they shouldn't have invaded Greece either. But of course they did.
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Old July 18, 2018, 14:46   #53
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You ain't from around here, are ya?
Nope, one state I've never set foot in. Driven through part but never stopped for gas. Would like to someday though, have a good friend who settled there about 25 years ago. And a cousin who is/was a 'professor' at U of O, but I generally don't admit to knowing her. She actually unfriended me on facebook when I responded to one of her anti-gun tirades and made her look silly in front of her peers.
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Looks like the slut Ms Page is providing contradictory testimony to El sluggo strokz. Karma is a bitch you DC ratfucks.
Page is the 'X' factor in Strzok's testimony and overall situation.

He got naked with her and then basically tossed her aside when things got difficult, basically used her.

Her motive for getting naked with him? Who knows, perhaps she figured to snag him via marriage and enhance her own career.

However right now she knows she was used by him & tossed aside to be humiliated in front of the entire country. Not a wise thing to do with women in a situation like this.

She now has a choice, cover strzok's ass or save her own, given how he treated her and how she very likely feels, I genuinely wonder what she said in that closed-door testimony...

I tend to think strzok is in a far more vulnerable position than he realizes.
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In an ordinary world he would be vulnerable enough to merit prison time, but we've not been in an ordinary world for many years and this hearing proves it. My bet is he walks, no matter what Page has to say.
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In an ordinary world he would be vulnerable enough to merit prison time, but we've not been in an ordinary world for many years and this hearing proves it. My bet is he walks, no matter what Page has to say.
Summer is getting hotter by the day and by August it will be an inferno in the Deep State. Panic is setting in. Strzok is the lightening rod and main character in this play. Strok will be the first to go down----unless the Deep State can eliminate Lisa or somehow stop her testimony. Both these so called lovers are just a step away from the Pearly Gates or the Lake of Fire. Obama and Clinton are feverously trying to figure out how to send them there inconspicuously.
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Summer is getting hotter by the day and by August it will be an inferno in the Deep State. Panic is setting in. Strzok is the lightening rod and main character in this play. Strok will be the first to go down----unless the Deep State can eliminate Lisa or somehow stop her testimony. Both these so called lovers are just a step away from the Pearly Gates or the Lake of Fire. Obama and Clinton are feverously trying to figure out how to send them there inconspicuously.
Didn't she already testify?
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Didn't she already testify?
Just a closed door testimony that yielded some important info---much more to come from Lisa---the jilted lover is packing a smoking gun.
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Old July 18, 2018, 21:00   #59
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Odds are the deep state will do another terror attack before she speaks to get her out of the headlines if they know she will say something important. They will probably do something really despicable.
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Didn't she already testify?
As JM noted she has and behind closed doors. One part of her testimony evidently released was "they mean exactly what they say"

That said in reference to strzok's text messages, if that's what she testified to in reference to them, very telling as to her possible mindset right now.

Likely, albeit also hopefully, this may not be the last of what she may testify to or be heard from her.

I find it telling there was an fbi attorney in there with her, why is this? She left the feds so she's not an employee of theirs anymore, so why the mouthpiece and what was their basis of legitimacy for being there?

I wonder if this is an indication of who they've decided is going to be sacrificed.
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Well the fbi is providing lawyers and protecting them for a reason, we can only surmise someone is very afraid of what they might say. And yeah, one has to wonder who will be sacrificed to keep the cover-up going...
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Well the fbi is providing lawyers and protecting them for a reason, we can only surmise someone is very afraid of what they might say. And yeah, one has to wonder who will be sacrificed to keep the cover-up going...
Well if I had to pick right now my money would be on Strotz being the one left standing when the music stops. Got an idea he suspects it too.
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I think Strzok is going to be just like the IRS gal and they won't touch him for doing what both sides ordered him to do. Him still having a security clearance shows he is still on the payroll waiting for Trump to do something impeach able to get him.
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Strzok knows he is a dead man if he doesn't put on a good show for his Deep State masters. He must have did a lot of practicing to behave like such a fool. Not only does Strzok and Lisa have there own lives in jeopardy there is no doubt they know that their family members or anybody they care for, can and will be takin out. Islam has infiltrated the depths of the U.S. government and will use all means necessary. Islam is the New World Order's hit man---for America to survive all of the death cult called Islam , in Government and University's and other places will have to removed from America. The hard way.
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this is great stuff, Team NeverTrump is cutting its' own throat again, and again;

they are making more Trump voters by the minute;



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bitches.
Essentially she is saying, don't get caught next time, we all think the same way you do and are trying to undermine the political process.
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According to this admission of Lisa Page, they never had anything for Rosenstein to justify enacting Mueller's probe.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...every-american
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According to this admission of Lisa Page, they never had anything for Rosenstein to justify enacting Mueller's probe.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...every-american
because the mueller investigation is an active counter intelligence operation, "cointelpro", to disrupt the opposition -- in this instance that opposition is the deploreable iredeemables.

same reason the spies are claiming they hold no criminal liability--

the legal claim is that they were not spying on Trump, only spying on russian that might have been involved with Trump.

their legal presumption is that anyone spying for Team NeverTrump, and anyone covered under attorney client privilege, can do otherwise illegal acts, and there is no criminal liability not because of what they did, but because of who they are.
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